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Re: Jerry Melton's photos taken in North America during the 1950s to the 1970s.
Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2018 11:30 pm
by khyndart in CA
I don't know whether BRM had ever done this before or since but they had 5 cars entered at Mosport in 1971.
Jo Siffert # 14, Peter Gethin # 15 and Howden Ganley # 16 in BRM P 160s and George Eaton # 28 BRM P 153 and Helmut Marko also.
Jo Siffert
Peter Gethin
Canadian driver George Eaton in BRM # 28
For all their entries it was not a successful race for the BRM Team as the best finisher was Jo Siffert in 9th position.
(Jerry Melton photos.. )
KH
Re: Jerry Melton's photos taken in North America during the 1950s to the 1970s.
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 2:56 am
by khyndart in CA
The Ferrari team was led by Jacky Ickx along with Clay Reggazoni and Mario Andretti driving Ferrari 312/B2s.
Jacky Ickx. September 1971
Jacky Ickx in Ferrari # 4
(Jerry Melton photos..)
Re: Jerry Melton's photos taken in North America during the 1950s to the 1970s.
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 5:12 am
by Ray Bell
I'm sure there were other races in which BRM entered five cars...
I don't have the resources to check which ones.
Re: Jerry Melton's photos taken in North America during the 1950s to the 1970s.
Posted: Fri Jul 20, 2018 7:41 pm
by khyndart in CA
I think this was the first F1 race that BRM had five cars entered even though they did not all make it through the first lap !
At the next race at Watkins Glen they had five cars entered for the last race of the 1971 F 1 season.
For the first few races of the 1972 F1 season BRM had five cars entered.
With this quote from "Wikipedia"
" The 1972 campaign was generally chaotic: having acquired major sponsorship, Louis Stanley originally planned to field up to six cars (three for established drivers, three for paying journeymen and young drivers) of varying designs including P153s, P160s and P180s and actually ran up to five for a mix of paying and paid drivers until it became obvious that it was completely overstretched and the team's sponsors insisted that the team should cut back to a more reasonable level and only three cars were run in 1973 for Beltoise, Lauda, and Regazzoni. "
Ken H
Re: Jerry Melton's photos taken in North America during the 1950s to the 1970s.
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 7:15 am
by khyndart in CA
Colin Chapman and Team Lotus had Brazilian driver Emerson Fittipaldi in car # 2 and Swedish driver, Reine Wisell driving # 3 Lotus 72 D s.
(Jerry Melton photos)
Re: Jerry Melton's photos taken in North America during the 1950s to the 1970s.
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:00 pm
by Ray Bell
Memories, there...
The way the tyres are pulling at their sidewalls, remember how they used to have screws in the rims to retain the tyres on their beads?
Re: Jerry Melton's photos taken in North America during the 1950s to the 1970s.
Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2018 10:54 pm
by John McKechnie
Ray...I remember early dragster having them, didnt know these guys did as well.thanks for that
Re: Jerry Melton's photos taken in North America during the 1950s to the 1970s.
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 12:48 am
by 928
the bolts in the rims were to keep the tyre in place after a puncture. they did not screw into the tyre but inboard of the bead. you must remember these tyres ran at 16psi hot, a lot less than the modern radials
Re: Jerry Melton's photos taken in North America during the 1950s to the 1970s.
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 1:10 am
by Ray Bell
I don't think they were specifically for punctures...
They were certainly there in F1 cars and yes, inboard of the beads.
Re: Jerry Melton's photos taken in North America during the 1950s to the 1970s.
Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2018 3:28 pm
by khyndart in CA
Graham Hill struggled once again in the Brabham BT 34 # 37 which was to be the last F1 car that Ron Tauranac designed for Brabham.
This was a difficult time for the team with ownership changes etc and the "Lobster Claw" design was not competitive.
Graham Hill studying his notebook.
Graham Hill getting strapped in to the BT 34
(Jerry Melton photos.. )
Re: Jerry Melton's photos taken in North America during the 1950s to the 1970s.
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 12:01 am
by khyndart in CA
March Engineering had their March 711 cars designed by Frank Costin of Cosworth motor fame, there for Ronnie Peterson, Nann Galli and Ike Beuttler. This car had the "Spitfire" or " Tea Tray" front wing arrangement.
(One thing for sure is that all the 1971 F1 cars had their own individual designs and easily seen numbers, not like todays cars that seem to all look the same except for the colour of their paint ! )
Ronnie is in car # 17 and drove a fine race to come home second in his race.
Ike Beuttler in March 711 # 19
(Jerry Melton photos..)
KH
Re: Jerry Melton's photos taken in North America during the 1950s to the 1970s.
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:16 am
by khyndart in CA
I will attempt to show the 2018 F1 grand prix cars that if painted with the same primer paint would be hard to tell apart.
Re: Jerry Melton's photos taken in North America during the 1950s to the 1970s.
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 7:27 am
by khyndart in CA
Now check out some of the 1971 F 1 cars before wind tunnels etc..( just a few laps at Goodwood and some duct tape ! )
They were certainly different and easy to follow out on the track. (At least for this old "codger ")
(Ken H)
Re: Jerry Melton's photos taken in North America during the 1950s to the 1970s.
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 2:06 pm
by Ray Bell
But did you have to point out Ronnie's poor landing?
John Surtees reckoned you had to get the back wheels down first so you could get the power on...
All the same, your point is well-proven. Later we had some significantly unique-looking cars like the Ferraris of '75-'78, the Wolfs, the FW08 and a couple of others. But today there's just nothing in it.
This, by the way, might enhance your point, Ken... a bit more like primer...






Re: Jerry Melton's photos taken in North America during the 1950s to the 1970s.
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 6:08 pm
by khyndart in CA
Thanks Ray,
I appreciate you arranging the latest F1 cars as you did.
p.s. How did you arrange how the car landed at the old Nurburgring circuit ?
Did you just lean back in the seat, hang on and pray ?
(Ken H)
Re: Jerry Melton's photos taken in North America during the 1950s to the 1970s.
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2018 11:22 pm
by khyndart in CA
John Surtees drove his Surtees TS 9 # 22 with Rob Walker and Brooke Bond Oxo sponsorship.
( Jerry Melton photos.. ) +
Re: Jerry Melton's photos taken in North America during the 1950s to the 1970s.
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:23 pm
by khyndart in CA
Ken Tyrrell and his Elf Team Tyrrell led the way once again at Mosport in the 1971 Canadian Grand Prix.
Jackie Stewart was the quickest qualifier in Tyrrell 003 # 11 and would go on to win the Grand Prix.
http://www.snaplap.net/tyrrell-003/Francois Cevert was in Tyrrell 002 # 12.
Stewart also had a spare car # 11T
Ken Tyrrell
Jackie Stewart. 1971.
Francois Cevert. Sept. 1971.
(Jerry Melton photos.. )
Re: Jerry Melton's photos taken in North America during the 1950s to the 1970s.
Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2018 11:33 pm
by khyndart in CA
Tyrrell mechanics taking a break beside the spare car # 11 T.
Jackie Stewart checking the spare # 11T.
Francois Cevert showing his pace in practice. Race day did not go as well.
Francois Cevert. # 12
1971 Formula One world Champion, Jackie Stewart driving Tyrrell # 11.
(Jerry Melton photos.. the last of the 1971 Canadian GP.)
(Ken H)
Re: Jerry Melton's photos taken in North America during the 1950s to the 1970s.
Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2018 11:33 pm
by khyndart in CA
Sadly for me at least, the Jerry Melton racing photos are about to come to an end.
In June, 1975, Jerry went once again to Mosport Park in Canada for a combined meet for IMSA GT and Formula 5000 racing.
One of the cars was prepared and driven by the popular Warren Agor who decided that the DeKon Chevy Monza was a bit expensive at
$ 38,000 US at that time so he built his own Monza to race known as the Agor Monza or (AM1).
Some scenes at Mosport from the Scharch Motorsport site of Warren Agor preparing to go racing in AM1 # 13
Although it qualified 18th and finished in 10th it was still a thrilling car to watch.
(Jerry Melton, the previous two photos.)
And the car is still thrilling to watch to this day.
A magnificent machine. (2015 )
KH
Re: Jerry Melton's photos taken in North America during the 1950s to the 1970s.
Posted: Sat Jul 28, 2018 3:44 am
by khyndart in CA
Brian Redman in his 1975 BMW CSL 3.0 # 25 had engine problems in qualifying and even though he started on the front row he knew he probably not finish the race and he didn't but knowing Brian he probably had fun while it lasted.
Redman alongside Al Holbert's Porsche Carrera # 14 on the pace lap.
Jerry Melton photos at Mosport. June 1975.
Brian Redman in the same car waiting to do some demonstration laps at Laguna Seca. August 2016. (41 years later )
Ken Hyndman photo.
Redman's # 25 BMW CSL at Laguna Seca. August 2017 driven by Ludwig Willisch.
(Hyndman photo )