Ferris de Joux GT 1962 seen on Trademe

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Ferris de Joux GT 1962 seen on Trademe

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Just seen this for sale on Trademe and thought someone on here might be interested/know something about the car :)

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=551994595
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Lotus7Alfa wrote:Just seen this for sale on Trademe and thought someone on here might be interested/know something about the car :)

http://www.trademe.co.nz/a.aspx?id=551994595


That one is known as the "Vanguard Special" I used to own the other DeJoux GT known as the "Holden Special"

From my understanding the "Vanguard Special" was built by Kevin Lamb, on a widened TR4 chassis.

The "Holden Special" had a space frame and was built by Dennis Marwood. I purchased the car in the mid 80's fitted with a Holden 253 V8 by a previous owner Diana Coster, daughter of Don Coster, owner of "Coster Motors" formely in Dominion Rd, Mt Roskill, Auckalnd.
During the 6 yrs that I owned the car I made many changes including fitting Holden ventilated front discs, replacing the original burnt blue Cresta Discs. Replaced the original Cresta diff with a Holden 3.08 lsd. Rebuilt the dashboard using Jaguar instruments and a wood rim steering wheel. Better Radiator from a commodore, and yes I am the person that fitted the contentious MGB/GT sunroof, mainly because I happened to have one and the car got so hot inside as there was no air inlet. The car weighed 1060 kg and had a top speed of 140mph.

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There were actually three of these cars built. The first was a 2+2. Happy with the success of the buckler body Ferris believed that there was a market for a fully enclosed coupe. He built the 2+2 car, used it as an everyday runner as well as racing it occassionally. Then Keven Lamb convinced Ferris to shorten the next car and make it a 2 seater. Hence the second car had 200 millimetres taken out of its roof and 100mm out its scuttle shortening the car by 300mm in total. The headlight arrangement was also altered.
Below is the only picture I have of the 2+2 (Ferris standing beside it) and also a picture of the car owned by KERRYO as it looks today with its current owner.
F deJoux- GT Holden based. 4 seater. Raced by Ferris who is standing in front of it.sm.JPG

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Thanks for posting that picture Patrick, I had heard rumors there was a third car but was never able to prove it. The rumor was that it had a Jaguar motor too.
I believe my old car is now fitted with a 350 Chev motor, which would make it pretty fast.
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Vanguard GT - TR3 Special ..

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Found an article on the Vanguard TR3 Special that is referred to in this thread the Kevin Lamb built car.

The chassis a wrecked 1952 Vanguard with Motor which was modified to TR3 /TR4 spec.

Article in the March 1964 issue of Sports Car World - written by Grant Howard the mags NZ correspondent.
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In that pic showing Ferris, you can see how short he was. His good friend Laurie Poolman told me that was a reason he created cars that were too small for folks of "standard" size, and frequently had to be reminded.
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Roger Dowding wrote:Found an article on the Vanguard TR3 Special that is referred to in this thread the Kevin Lamb built car.

The chassis a wrecked 1952 Vanguard with Motor which was modified to TR3 /TR4 spec.

Article in the March 1964 issue of Sports Car World - written by Grant Howard the mags NZ correspondent.


Couple of photos from the article -

Motoring Books #970 Lamb TR Special 1 SCW Mar 1964 2020_02_22_1345 (2) (533x800).jpg


Apparently the De Joux Holden body mould was used for the Vanguard GT - but had to be cut and shortened to fit the Vanguard chassis ..
Will try to scan/copy/photograph the article - and post here.
Have put some details on my Vintage Cars thread too !!

KerryO hope you still follow TRS.
Thanks to Patrick for the photos and details to add to the story
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Roger,
That was the car that came up for sale in Hunterville a few years back, it was less motor and interior, the grill & screen was missing.
I think I heard Ferris used Humber 80 rear windows for the front srceen.
The car ended up in Nelson, I rung the guy to try and buy it but he wanted to rebuild it.
I have some pics of it too.
Its a nice shape and as you say was a shorter wheelbase.
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De Joux with a V8 and one without !!

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Kerryo wrote:Thanks for posting that picture Patrick, I had heard rumors there was a third car but was never able to prove it. The rumor was that it had a Jaguar motor too.
I believe my old car is now fitted with a 350 Chev motor, which would make it pretty fast.


Kerryo..

This photo appeared on " NZ Car Realated Street Scene's - in response to my Post of the photos of the Vanguard GT.
Would appear to be the car - complete with wire wheels.

Cars #97 De Joux V8 JDnz FB .jpg


The Rego plate - thought I recognised it;
The details
" Year: 1968
Make: MORRIS
Model: MINI
Colour: Orange
Submodel: DEJOUX
Body Style: Sports Car
VIN: 7A8CY080702714717
Plate: DEJOUX
Engine No: UNKNOWN
Chassis: AA25714717
"

Saw that** car at Greerton a couple of years ago ; Parked beside Donn White's well known Bathurst Mini Clubman.
** That car had plate D Joux !!

" Year: 1969
Make: LVVTA
Model: DEJOUX
Colour: Orange
Body Style: Sports Car
VIN: 7A88E000709405090
Plate: DJOUX
Engine No: 12H544H026
Chassis: GT06 "

Two/Too much of a coincidence -maybe both cars DEJOUX and D JOUX are Mini De Joux ??

Classics Greerton #50 Clubman and  Mini De Joux 1,Nov 2017 780 (800x533).jpg


Classics Greerton #51 Clubman and Mini De Joux 2 Nov 2017 797 (640x427).jpg
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Ferris De Joux GT and Ferraguar

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The latest issue of New Zealand Classic Driver has a letter to the Editor about 3 of Ferris De Joux cars
The " Ferraguar " Coupe, a Fastback Coupe and the De Joux Coupe which could be either the Holden based car or the
" Vanguard /TR3 engine " car of Mr Lamb.
Patrick Harlow - the magazines Kit Car and NZ made Car Specialist replied to the letter
Cars #982 Ferraguar De Joux Coupe De Joux Holden Ferris De Joux 3 photos letter NZCD Issue 103 .jpg
There is also an article by Patrick Harlow on NZ built cars " Forgotten Kiwi Cars " about the "Vadis " the " Tiki " and the Ferris De Joux " Ferraguar "
Cars #983 Ferraguar - Ferris De Joux article Patrick Harlow NZCD Issue 103 P 74 .jpg
Cars #984 Ferraguar - Ferris De Joux article Patrick Harlow NZCD Issue 103 P 75 .jpg
Some different photos have emerged of the Ferris De Joux cars.
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Ellerslie 1984
184_0212_16 MG.jpg
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" Ellerslie 1984 " Presume that is Ferris standing behind the MG Special adjusting something. - What a stylish car it is too !!

Another photo of the " Holden powered car ?? stated as 2171 cc !! " .. at a Race in ??? .. Dunedin 1960 Festival Meeting
Cars #980 De Joux Holden 1960 Dunedin Festival Saloon and Sports w 3 MGA's John Holmes.jpg
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ERC wrote:Ellerslie 1984
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Registration has been cancelled per this ;

" LH9924
Plate Type: Standard
Origin: NZ New
Used as: Private Passenger vehicle
Cause of Latest Registration: New
NZ First Registration: 13-Jan-1984
Cancellation Date Of Registration: 02-Feb-1996 "

Is / was a 1934 MG !!.

" 1934
Make: MG
Colour: Green
Body Style: Sports Car
Plate: LH9924
Engine No: KN547A
Chassis: NA357
CC rating: 1,287cc (1.3l)
Fuel Type: Petrol "

There has been more postings recently of the De Joux Holden
, Vanguard And V8 powered cars recently with the same bodystyle.
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