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Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Fri Dec 20, 2013 6:54 am
by kiwi285
fullnoise68 wrote:I think what actually happened here Paul, was Pete was just walking past Jims Falcon, tripped over, realised you had a camera, and made out to be technically interested....... aye Pete!
Could be he was trying to figure out how Jim kept that car handling so well.
Paul there were lots of shady characters hanging around at Lakeside. LOL
Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:21 am
by Kiwiboss
To all HMC persons and interested parties, first up i need to apologes for not getting a current HMC newsletter mailout done in the last few months, i do try to get them done at least bi-monthly and currently have one half typed but other than the odd posting here and there i just haven't had the time to sit down and concentrate on finishing it. With the PDL replica build and actual income earning work(don't yar hate that) and other non income earning work getting in the way time has just rolled by and I've run outta year, i'll try and make a big effort before the Festival(2 weeks yeah rite) but don't hold me to it.
Other than that nothing has changed and its onward and upwards and moving forward steadily for HMC, im still fielding interest from various parties which is good news but this takes time for cars to surface and be finished. We'll be lacking in numbers for the Festival so we've combined again with the U3L Historic Saloon car grid(even they are down on cars) as we just have too many unfinished HMC cars that wont make the time frame and for those of you that know me well "i still won't let in any non-legal cars" end of story, but in a good old "Henry Ford" saying you only need two cars and you have a race and race we will(for FUN that is)!! The one disappointment for our coming festival event is the going HMC cars that there respective owners are not racing for various reasons but i do understand this and nothing is perfect and sometimes for personal reasons a rest is required, though its a bit of a shame for the class been new and all but life goes on so all is good and nothing is lost, see you guys next time.
On the positive side this 69 Camaro has just recently been purchased out of the USA to race in HMC, the owner doesn't wish to be named but i can tell you "he will race it with us" once on NZ terra firma, unfortunately it to will miss the festival as well.
Thats about it, see most of you in two weeks time.
Dale M
Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 3:04 am
by Steve Holmes
Thats a good looking '69 Camaro. I like that fact it has the correct style American Racing 200-S wheels on it. Many people bolt on Minilites when building historic big-bore sedans, but Minilites didn't actually begin appearing in the Trans-Am and A Sedan until 1969. Prior to that, many used Torque-Thrust style wheels. The 200-S wheels appeared on both the Shelby and Bud Moore factory Mustangs in 1969 in the early races, plus some of the privateer teams. But the Ford factory Mustangs switched to Minilites after a few rounds.
But I think the 200-S wheels are some of the nicest looking of the period wheels.
Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 4:39 am
by Frosty5
ERC wrote:We have also allowed that Torana to run in the ERC Series, group, so we'd happily accept it again. There you are, two groups which makes it twice as valuable!
Ray, have sent you a PM.
Cheers Dave
Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 5:37 am
by Kiwiboss
Steve Holmes wrote:Thats a good looking '69 Camaro. I like that fact it has the correct style American Racing 200-S wheels on it. Many people bolt on Minilites when building historic big-bore sedans, but Minilites didn't actually begin appearing in the Trans-Am and A Sedan until 1969. Prior to that, many used Torque-Thrust style wheels. The 200-S wheels appeared on both the Shelby and Bud Moore factory Mustangs in 1969 in the early races, plus some of the privateer teams. But the Ford factory Mustangs switched to Minilites after a few rounds.
But I think the 200-S wheels are some of the nicest looking of the period wheels.
Steve, one of the reasons they went away from the 200S(or Daisy) wheel was they had cracking problems and a few broke, the Minilite was new and also in magnesium and stronger so hence most went that way and the reason they became so popular back then!! but you are correct, the early gen 1 Camaro's look so good on 200S's and that's why I have Arrow 200S daisy's on my Mustang because in 69 that's what they ran, 70 onwards was mostly Minilites.
Dale M
Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 7:17 am
by kiwi285
Another good looking addition to the HMC fields. Already the fields are bigger than we ever had 'in period' and will no doubt put on another great show for the fans.
Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 7:51 am
by Steve Holmes
Kiwiboss wrote:Steve, one of the reasons they went away from the 200S(or Daisy) wheel was they had cracking problems and a few broke, the Minilite was new and also in magnesium and stronger so hence most went that way and the reason they became so popular back then!! but you are correct, the early gen 1 Camaro's look so good on 200S's and that's why I have Arrow 200S daisy's on my Mustang because in 69 that's what they ran, 70 onwards was mostly Minilites.
Dale M
Yeah thats right Dale, although the original wheels were magnesium, whereas most of the modern copies are alloy. I assume the modern versions have been improved. Interestingly, the Bud Moore Mustangs appeared late in the 1969 season with the Daisy wheels fitted again, in place of the Minilites.
Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 8:51 am
by Frosty5
Quote - On the positive side this 69 Camaro has just recently been purchased out of the USA to race in HMC, the owner doesn't wish to be named but i can tell you "he will race it with us" once on NZ terra firma, unfortunately it to will miss the festival as well.
Dale, I am just a simple country boy and I have some difficulty trying to understand why someone would spend a truckload of dollars importing a car to race in HMC and doesn't want to be identified. If he doesn't want to be identified then why would he agree to having details of the car posted on TRS. I would say 99.9% of members on TRS would be most interested to know what the plans are - Replica, Tribute Car??? Am I missing something here?
Cheers
Dave Graham
Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Fri Jan 03, 2014 8:32 pm
by Kiwiboss
Frosty5 wrote:Quote - On the positive side this 69 Camaro has just recently been purchased out of the USA to race in HMC, the owner doesn't wish to be named but i can tell you "he will race it with us" once on NZ terra firma, unfortunately it to will miss the festival as well.
Dale, I am just a simple country boy and I have some difficulty trying to understand why someone would spend a truckload of dollars importing a car to race in HMC and doesn't want to be identified. If he doesn't want to be identified then why would he agree to having details of the car posted on TRS. I would say 99.9% of members on TRS would be most interested to know what the plans are - Replica, Tribute Car??? Am I missing something here?
Cheers
Dave Graham
Dave, he asked for his name to left out and I have to respect that, for whatever reason(I didn't ask)!!! he also doesn't know I've posted the Camaro up on TRS but have done so, so others can see what's coming to HMC as a class. Its just a pity we'll be way down on cars for the Festival considering the amount of HMC cars out there, bad timing for most BUT we will carry on regardless!!
Dale M
Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:24 pm
by Kiwiboss
Pete "Mr Meat" 65 Mustang all ready to go for the Festival. Dale M
Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 7:59 pm
by fullnoise68
In keeping with the Festival theme, at least Petes Mustang and my Camaro are red, and they sound a lot better than most of that Italian mob!
Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 8:03 pm
by ERC
Oooh! Ferrari V12 on full song or American V8?
Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 8:05 pm
by fullnoise68
I did say `most' Ray !!

Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 8:27 pm
by 928
it does not take much to sound better than a 2 cyl fiat 500
Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 9:05 pm
by Frosty5
Kiwiboss wrote:Pete "Mr Meat" 65 Mustang all ready to go for the Festival. Dale M
Dale/Steve, how many HMC cars do we have for the festival?
Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:50 pm
by Kiwiboss
Frosty5 wrote:Dale/Steve, how many HMC cars do we have for the festival?
Have 10 HMC cars and 15 HSS cars!! We could add more HMC type vehicles if we want to break the rules, NOT!!
Dave, did you get my E-mail RE: Festival pass's? or Email me ASAP.
Dale M
Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 10:56 pm
by Howard Wood
Do you have an entry list for HMC/ U3L and HSS Dale?
Time to ramp up the excitment levels (assuming our fan base can stand the strain on their pacemakers).
Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:10 pm
by John McKechnie
Heres one for HMC, if I survive Saturday practice at HD.
Might ramp up the excitement if we can use grid girls.I can use my home stay Valeria Lukyanova
Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:44 pm
by ERC
fullnoise68 wrote:I did say `most' Ray !!
Only kidding! I love the sound of a V8 - otherwise I wouldn't have spent almost 10 years trying to get one on the road.
Looking forward very much to the Festival - or most of it anyway. BMW E30's don't really rock my boat, but if they have a full grid, I'll be a bit happier.
Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Tue Jan 07, 2014 11:51 pm
by Kiwiboss
Howard Wood wrote:Do you have an entry list for HMC/ U3L and HSC Dale?
Time to ramp up the excitment levels (assuming our fan base can stand the strain on their pacemakers).
No I don't Howard, well not the HSC cars but should know the total shortly and will put it up on here !!
The excitement is there regardless and certainly the interest in seeing properly presented historic saloon cars is the key!! Remember HMC and HSC is about representing our fabulous past motorsport saloon car racing history, that's what historic racing is about.
And we are missing about 10 HMC cars that are currently under construction, imported, timeframe, and some like Stacey and Cameron are just plumb worn out and need a break which I fully understand as our Aussie trip gave most a financial beating.
The Aussies will be back for 2015 with 10 cars as they are a rapidly growing group and HMC will also have more!! so its steady as she goes at this stage and although for this Festival the numbers are down we'll have NO non-compliant cars as this is also key, its like building a house, gotta get the foundations rite first..
Dale M