The Roaring Season

thanks for that. i will read and digest but at a quick glance things do not look good

I don't want to be a smart arse but if you apply and are granted a planning permit for the noise level you want to make then there is stuff all people can complain about after the permit is granted.

Kwaussie wrote:I don't want to be a smart arse but if you apply and are granted a planning permit for the noise level you want to make then there is stuff all people can complain about after the permit is granted.

in NZ or AU? does make a difference

Agree, people will complain regardless.

What I can't understand is why it is OK for a club to have music blasting out at 120db - with the doors and windows open so that you can hear/feel the bass reverberating half a kilometre away until 2am or later. Happened to us in Taupo a couple of years ago.

Race track noise (except Western Springs or Speedway) is usually all over by about 6pm anyway and as most races are about 11 or 12 minutes with tiny grids, (at tier 1 level anyway!), I think any genuine disturbance from the race track, is grossly exaggerated.

There is a huge difference in being able to hear noise and it interfering with day to day living.

928 wrote:in NZ or AU? does make a difference

Resource Consent in NZ

[color="#0000FF"]I've just quickly scanned thru the noise limits in relation to Teretonga Park as administered by the Invercargill City Council, They have three categorys of Noise Limits 'A. B. C.' and those refer to the number of days per annum that those limits apply with those readings being for a minimum of 15 minutes and within 20 meters of any dwelling ( rural in the case of Teretonga ) and outside of the Teretonga property/boundary. Therefore the reading taken at the track to check actual car readings is that imposed by the Club and MSNZ, not the local council who's monitoring points are all outside the venue boundaries. I would venture suggest that the same situation might apply to most if not all tracks in NZ...... Hope I've got that right, if I can figure out how I will edit and add the link to the document.[/color]

928 wrote:thanks for that. i will read and digest but at a quick glance things do not look good

Results of the noise monitoring for Western Springs are on the council website
Springs speedway noise monitoring

ERC wrote:What I can't understand is why it is OK for a club to have music blasting out at 120db - with the doors and windows open so that you can hear/feel the bass reverberating half a kilometre away until 2am or later. Happened to us in Taupo a couple of years ago.

That would likely have breached Taupo's noise rules, but it's up to the "subjective assessment" of the Noise Control officer.

Excessive noise is any noise that is under human control and of such a nature as to unreasonably interfere with the peace, comfort and convenience of any person. Examples of excessive noise may include a loud party, stereo, band practices, audible alarm or machinery.

iirc Levels was the first circuit to get in trouble, because a local lawyer had a neighbouring lifestyle block and got schooled up on the RMA before the car club did. It's these same lifestylers who used to complain to Franklin council about the noise from working farms

Kwaussie wrote:Resource Consent in NZ

Generally a resource consent is applied for and issued BEFORE any activity, however they are being applied retrospectively, and that is where the issue starts.

Oldfart wrote:Generally a resource consent is applied for and issued BEFORE any activity, however they are being applied retrospectively, and that is where the issue starts.

Very similar to what happened with the venue I was involved in but as land owners were able to build a very strong case for future operations.
The benefits that resulted far exceeded the noise level settings and hours of operation.
One example was the generous noise contour that was applied retrospectively to the surrounding land; the inner where no further building could take place and the outer where land owners could apply for a building permit but had to acknowledge that they were building in a high noise area and they would have to specify and install triple glazing, extra insulation as well as tree planting to soften the noise impact.

Kwaussie wrote:Very similar to what happened with the venue I was involved in but as land owners were able to build a very strong case for future operations.
The benefits that resulted far exceeded the noise level settings and hours of operation.
One example was the generous noise contour that was applied to the surrounding land; the inner where no further building could take place and the outer where land owners could apply for a building permit but had to acknowledge that they were building in a high noise area and they would have to specify and install triple glazing, extra insulation as well as tree planting to soften the noise impact.

Thankfully you did not have to pander to Len Brown and his NIMBY sycophants nor shag a colleague at rate payers expense.

ElCoyote wrote:Thankfully you did not have to pander to Len Brown and his NIMBY sycophants nor shag a colleague at rate payers expense.

Gosh things are getting exciting in New Zealand!

Forest could muffle racetrack noise complaints (nice photo of Pilette F500:D )

Residents living near Ruapuna Raceway want the city council to plant a forest to reduce noise coming from the track.
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Kwaussie wrote:Very similar to what happened with the venue I was involved in but as land owners were able to build a very strong case for future operations.
The benefits that resulted far exceeded the noise level settings and hours of operation.
One example was the generous noise contour that was applied retrospectively to the surrounding land; the inner where no further building could take place and the outer where land owners could apply for a building permit but had to acknowledge that they were building in a high noise area and they would have to specify and install triple glazing, extra insulation as well as tree planting to soften the noise impact.

[color="#0000FF"]I hope the club members of Southland Sports Car Club are investigating this avenue, with the recent moves to freehold the camping ground and restaurant land to the north of the Teretonga Circuit it would be prudent to have similar measures in place along with an understanding by future property owners of the noise limits that apply. Local body members come & go and it seems like every new bunch of recruits needs to be educated to this stuff.[/color]