Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

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As I said John, he hadn't read the ASR's for the event and ran with Arrow Wheels - in practice (which isn't really an issue), but in the scratch race, which is an issue.

What driver's like this fail to understand, is that in an 'Invitation Series', they cannot just rock up and race. If they (like at Queenstown) were the one to be involved in a fatal, (Queenstown, entered on the day, despite the ASR's having a closing date), then organisers/officials are responsible for allowing them on track, without them being invited or registered for that series. At my age, I have no wish to return to a prison environment, particularly if I was unaware of the problem at the time!

As you can tell from the pic, I was at turn 1 but could just as easily have been on the grid, belted in, well in front of this character, so in either case, I wouldn't be able to intervene.

His numbers weren't to MSNZ standards and I was standing with the accident investigation officer when the same car came out again in the following race, and once again, not in the programme for that race. Neither of us could see his race number, which brings in my other point. In an accident or incident, marshals have to radio in the car number, so how can they do that if one isn't easily visible?

As many cars aren't scrutineered, the onus is 100% on the driver to conform.

I guarantee that 95% of drivers never read the ASR's, but it is unfair to expect our fantastic and enthusiastic young team of dummy grid marshals to challenge drivers. The fact that he went out and practiced with Arrows meant that he appeared on the grid sheet, but cars often practice out of session with the blessing of the CoC to bed in brakes etc., so no one would have challenged it.

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Ardmore Reunion 1989. Sorry about the lack of variety of viewpoint, but that is what happens when you are marshalling and well back from the track - and not a very long lens...
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...and a few more from the same piece of film that for some reason wasn't with the other negs...
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Ignore the image title. Ferrari - see post below...

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And of course 113 should be the Ex Roycroft Ferrari, not a Maserati. Think it is Gavin Bain driving. Just to keep your records straight Ray. I am hoping to earn brownie points for that good handicap

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And of course 113 should be the Ex Roycroft Ferrari, not a Maserati. Think it is Gavin Bain driving. Just to keep your records straight Ray. I am hoping to earn brownie points for that good handicap Les Parkinson driving the Jaguar C type replica.

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Whoops! Thanks AMCO. Yup, I'll give you 5 seconds on your handicap. Once.

Whilst saving one or two this morning, batch 2, the originals got overwritten with the wrong captions and parked on the computer in the wrong place...

Whilst we tend to revel in nostalgia, at least it doesn't take 3 minutes to scan each negative, when using a digital camera these days.

With both, having to then make a copy that has to be resized and shrunk to be uploaded on here, which I find slow. There must be a programme that does it by batch instead on doing it singly. Any help appreciated.

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More older stuff. Dating old slides is even more difficult than negatives - especially when you don't have a race programme... I can't accurately state the date for any of these.

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The 5 weekend winter sprint series at Silverstone around November was an annual highlight, with 2 laps of the club circuit, when most of us just had to put up with the 900 yard Curborough course for our action. Genuine Cobra of course. We often had to wait for the November fog to lift before we could start, so sought refuge in the paddock café, for a fry up! I was often on nights and had driven up from Middlesex after my shift finished at 7:15am, competed, drove back, grabbed an hour or two's sleep then back on duty 8:45pm...

The John Pope Special - road registered twin turbo Aston Martin powered Magnum, also at Silverstone. I wonder how LVVTA would get on with certifying that in NZ...

Pre '57 series in the UK had some interesting cars. Cadwell Park in Lincolnshire, not sure of the date.

Motorsport photographer Robin Rew in his well campaigned Reliant, at Curborough

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A Rover 105 wouldnt be the first choice for most people as a race car, but this guy is giving it a bit of wellie thats for sure. Great stuff. And an Aston Martin engined Vauxhall !!!!!!! for goodness sake. That certainly involved a bit of lateral thinking.......wild-as.... That Cobra is nice.....before they went all bloated.

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More older stuff. Dating old slides is even more difficult than negatives - especially when you don't have a race programme... I can't accurately state the date for any of these.
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The John Pope Special - road registered twin turbo Aston Martin powered Magnum, also at Silverstone. I wonder how LVVTA would get on with certifying that in NZ...
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I love these old pics, keep them coming Ray! This car was for sale a couple of years ago:

http://www.theroaringseason.com/showthread.php?819-The-John-Pope-Special&p=18920#post18920

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Thanks for the photos of "our" pre 61s Ray. That A30/Elan looks way more like one of the bigger Climax motors than an Imp one to my eye. Very cool car IMHO

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Pity so many pre '61's have been scrapped, particularly the very cars you need, as restoration was uneconomic. Restoring a Mk2 Jag is expensive, but worth it. Restoring a Riley Pathfinder might cost just as much, but probably not worth it.

Standard Ensigns Rover P4's and suchlike are now quite rare and those in good nick are not going to be racers. Moggie Minors and some Vauxhalls might still be cheapish, but A30 prices seem off the clock for what they are. Mk1 Jags? Not that many around. Good to see the Morris Oxford out there at HD - though it wouldn't be my choice! Ford Zephyrs also seem to be sought after, but most are for restoration/concours these days, not racing.

My choice would be a Riley 1.5...

The Magnette on TM went for a shade under $10,000!

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In Ref to post 646

Those issues aside,

1980 Sandown results
1 Peter brock HDT
2 Fred Geisler - Gary Rodgers
3 Alan Moffat

As well as quite a few bathurst and ATTC starts in Torana A9X's then Group C, and group A Commodores.
Not a bad CV
Just saying

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Those issues aside

Unfortunately, those 'issues' could have a dramatic effect on the rest of us. Regardless of status or experience, when things go pear shaped and other people may be involved, that counts for nothing. Therefore, should know better...

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Whangarei street races January 2000.
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Alan Lacey who also raced a TVR at Pukekohe/Whenuapai and a Sierra in Targa.

Gary Kirkand-Smith - obviously before his altercation with the concrete.

No driver comment required... but taken before the clutch master cylinder failed and so the car didn't run Monday. PS NOT me behind the wheel...

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I did title it a MIX of Pics...

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Taken with a fold out Ensign camera on 30 year old film, which wasn't the best... Dad had hogged the Leica - but I haven't ever seen the pics he took, other than one of me! Shelsey Walsh 1965 before drivers needed overalls...

The annual January Racing Car show was a must for me and this was the first pubic sighting of the Cooper Maserati.

1979 Oulton Park Sprint at a guess.

Donington Paddock was always a nice place to wander. The later 'bulging' Cobra.

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Minis - again...
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Minis - again...
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ERC love those Minis, and the one with the stack exhausts thru the bonnet - magic..

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More really slow scanning... Richard Seaman Memorial Trophies Meeting Oulton Park 1975.

Oh how I wished I'd had a modern camera back then. Even a telephoto lens would have been great. No rangefinder either - or exposure meter! At least Kodak film was pretty reliable but Photoshop has had to be used to tidy up the colour and eliminate or reduce dust and scratches.

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My favourite car (Remus) lapping a Lagonda. The Hon Pat Lindsay at the helm. It was reputed that this car was at one stage, the most raced car of all time - and it still sounds fantastic.

Neil Corner with trademark helmet.

Not Neil Corner...

But this is...

Some say that the Rover 'Viking' was based on Frank Lockhart, the owner/driver of this very famous Rover Special, that was in fact built by the Rover works as an experiment.

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a few more...

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Gerry Walton (I think another Nottingham local, but not sure on that).

Guy Smith a real Fraser Nash stalwart

Bob Fowler was a Nottingham gentleman who also sprinted a lovely Aston Martin DB4 GT.

Not a very good pic and looks like a Maserati and probably is! If the number is 30 then R Felton at the wheel and a 1938/40 1496cc supercharged.

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From the archives - for the Jag fans. (I only scan in the day time.)

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