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Re: imformatin required

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 3:38 am
by markson
Hi BRY3500 Let John L know through his Bolly Blog ,that if he has to walk Bare Arsed to Oodnadatta if he is wrong ,then i'll be with him.Also I will provide the sunscreen, hats, and beers Graham

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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 9:04 am
by markson
Hi Oldfart Just as a matter of interest it also had 2 brake boosters ??? Graham

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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 9:30 am
by Oldfart
Are the brakes on separate circuits with a booster each?
Story from the time when Alpine A110 had to have twin rear shocks, reason I have been given is that there was no suitable single rate. Sometimes the works cars had one of each pair "upside down" to get the rebound rate the way the drivers wanted.

Re: imformatin required

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 10:08 am
by bry3500
Will do!! ;)
markson wrote:Hi BRY3500 Let John L know through his Bolly Blog ,that if he has to walk Bare Arsed to Oodnadatta if he is wrong ,then i'll be with him.Also I will provide the sunscreen, hats, and beers Graham

Re: imformatin required

Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 2:21 pm
by markson
Hi All just recapping on the info that I have to date, and changing my line of thought a little after contacting Mr Gordon Hook
After emailing him and having a reply from him, he states that he know's nothing about or has never seen this car before, me being of skeptic mind, I don't believe his reply at this stage,but have changed my way of thinking a little on this cars history .I still believe that it is an Australian Bolwell as stated before, and I do believe that someone in the aircraft industry had a lot to do with its construction, mainly for the fact that the whole steel chassis is pop riveted together with aircraft pop rivets, and done in a very proficient way,also the workmanship of the car, to the body on chassis stage, is excellent, and considering the cars age, has been done very well indeed, it is not hard to see that this car went through several hands in its construction, starting of extremely well.I believe at this point in time that Gordon Hook did have a hand in its build but for what ever reason denies this .I believe that he was given the job while he was working for the fibreglass company in Henderson, of putting the pieces of the body back together to make it a unit again .It is very easy to see where sections of the chop strand body has been glassed back together, using glass mat.I believe at that time he took a molding off the body, and at a later date set about making what he called his OWN car the AMERO I do point out that at this point I only assume my thoughts to be correct, and is only an assumption that I have at this time,and would stand corrected on any point Graham
gordon hook.JPG

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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 2:50 pm
by markson
cowrolla 1.JPG


This photo depict's the build of the Markson ;) Graham

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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 7:17 pm
by markson
Just as a matter of interest the chassis tub is very simular to the Toyota tray, with the body sitting on outrigger pods, with a front tubular chassis bolted to the fire wall :confused: Graham

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Posted: Sun May 06, 2012 7:49 pm
by markson
chassis 4.JPG
A rough drawing of chassis Graham

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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 9:27 am
by GeebeeNZ
gordon 5.JPG


More from Graham (Markson). The mystery continues. We have since found out that the husbands of the first and last names on the ownership papers were John Frederick Reynolds an Engineer and Colin David Burrows a Spray Painter who may have also been involved with Power Strip Industies in the mid 1990s. Both were from Auckland but seem to have vanished. Markson would like any information you can pass on.
Graeme

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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 2:23 pm
by markson
Alan Davison.jpg
Markson Amero.jpg

Quite a coincidence that two cars can be built in two different countries in the 60's, and look almost identical :confused: Graham

Re: imformatin required

Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 3:21 pm
by markson
Hi Oldfart Yes the brakes were on separate circuits Front brakes having large booster Rear having small booster :rolleyes: Graham

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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 7:37 pm
by Oldfart
Lots of similarities and lots of subtle differences to my eye.
Hinge front is differently cut, as are the door openings. The front edge of the Bolwell door slopes forward with a sharp bottom corner, yours runs back with a well rounded bottom corner, likewise the Bolwell rear bottom corner is sharp, yours rounded.
The Bolwell quarter window bottom runs parallel to the body, yours cuts up at an angle.
Door (B) pillars also run at different angles, Bolwell much more vertical.
These, in my mind, point to it not having been taken from moulds off a Bolwell. Mr Hook, with the greatest of respect, was never one for having been totally up front about having taken moulds from other peoples products, and much time has gone by, even if he had any involvement.

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Posted: Mon May 07, 2012 7:39 pm
by markson
MK6 Bolwell.jpg
This is how it will one day look again
:D Graham

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Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 1:06 am
by markson
markson chassis inside.JPG
bolwell inside chassis.JPG
Another coincidental simulation Markson on top Bolwell at bottom ??? Graham

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Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 5:03 am
by Racer Rog
There would appear to be some differences there, but what must also be remembered, many cars would also be constructed in this manner
Roger

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Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 5:54 am
by markson
Hi Roger
Maybe I am way off track !!! Could it be a Ferrari ??? Graham

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Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 5:21 pm
by markson
Hi BRY3500 Maybe you could forward the photo's of the 2 chassis that I have posted,to Johns Bolly Blog.and let him know that the chances of us having to walk Bare Arsed to Oodnadatta are getting slimmer by the day . :cool: Graham

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Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 9:12 pm
by Racer Rog
Nah, no poor welding and yours is square tube,maybe Masser
Roger

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Posted: Thu May 10, 2012 9:18 pm
by Racer Rog
But rear quarter-light, look at a VW SP2s, I don't think any of these ever made it out here, but it looks similar, in fact the general shape of the car is similar!
Roger

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Posted: Fri May 11, 2012 1:04 am
by markson
vw sp2s.jpg
NoT quite Racer Rog. Graham