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Re: Motoring Books - including your bookshelf.
Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 5:29 am
by Roger Dowding
Good score Ray Bell - cheers
Re: Motoring Books - including your bookshelf.
Posted: Fri Mar 20, 2020 8:31 am
by Ray Bell
An interesting read, too...
Re: Motoring Books - including your bookshelf.
Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2020 8:40 pm
by ERC
I have started on a bit of a clear out.
This set of books really is excellent.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=2586380058
Check out my other listings for 3 Bburago model kits.
" On Track a History of Motor racing at Pukekohe " - Rhys Jones
Posted: Sun Mar 29, 2020 11:45 pm
by Roger Dowding
With " jellywrestler " posting / enquiring about Waiheke on Lost Tracks and the story / history of the New Zealand Tourist Trophy races,
Raced at Waiheke 1931 - 1950, moved to Seagrove, Manukau, then to Mangere [ where ? ] Ardmore in 1962 and eventually to Pukekohe in 1963.
Made me get out the Rhys Jones book - for some information - so now having a a full re-read.
published in 2008 by Phantom House - a Wellington Publishers..
Rhys being a Motorcycle Guy focuses a lot on the " Marlboro Series " but covers Saloons, the GroupA B and H and also Formula 5000 at one stage the Grand Prix category.
Rhys writes
" ... the motorcycle fraternity, and their premier event the New Zealand T.T ( Tourist Trophy ) so named in deference to the Isle of Man T.T - were on course for the same destination [
Pukekohe ] " Italics mine.
Re: Motoring Books - including your bookshelf.
Posted: Mon Mar 30, 2020 11:14 pm
by jellywrestler
Roger Dowding wrote:With " jellywrestler " posting / enquiring about Waiheke on Lost Tracks and the story / history of the New Zealand Tourist Trophy races,
Raced at Waiheke 1931 - 1950, moved to Seagrove, Manukau, then to Mangere [ where ? ] Ardmore in 1962 and eventually to Pukekohe in 1963.
Made me get out the Rhys Jones book - for some information - so now having a a full re-read.
published in 2008 by Phantom House - a Wellington Publishers..
Rhys being a Motorcycle Guy focuses a lot on the " Marlboro Series " but covers Saloons, the GroupA B and H and also Formula 5000 at one stage the Grand Prix category.
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Rhys writes
" ... the motorcycle fraternity, and their premier event the New Zealand T.T ( Tourist Trophy ) so named in deference to the Isle of Man T.T - were on course for the same destination [ Pukekohe ] " Italics mine.
dunno where the manukau came from, it went from seagrove to mangere, Ihumatoa area, tried to do a lap when in auckland last year and it was barricaded off, stopped just for a look and had my notes out and a large unfriendly person told me to eff off, when i said i was just looking at an old motorcycle race track he went to the next level telling me 'you journalists' i'm not a journalist, just a hobby writing, his poor daughter was in the car trying to get her dad to see sense, i was out of there as soon as i could....
Re: Motoring Books - including your bookshelf.
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 4:02 am
by Roger Dowding
jellywrestler bloody comma should have read " Seagrove Manukau, Mangere " ..
[ lots of people don't know where it ( Seagrove ) was ].
My oops..
Your further comment tried to do a lap ..etc .. pity the Mangere Natives are so restless ..
Re: Motoring Books - including your bookshelf.
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:18 am
by Allan
It's not that long ago that you could see the shape of Seagrove from the air.
Re: Motoring Books - including your bookshelf.
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 4:51 am
by Roger Dowding
Allan wrote:It's not that long ago that you could see the shape of Seagrove from the air.
Allan, yes - I looked at Google yesterday and very hard to define - the track was at the end of Seagrove Road which is now a farm.
The area described as Seagrove - next to Waiuau Pa.
In 1990 I took the Austin Healey Club on a run during the Annual Rally around a group of Motorsport venues in South Auckland /Franklin which included a visit to the end of Seagrove Road, [ not much to see even then ] and as luck would have as we returned to Pukekohe East to the Motel the entry gates at Pukekohe were open so we drove down to the area by the Tote building [ now demolished ] and the track gate was open, so .. after a very brief discussion - and a couple of rules don't go to fast and DO NOT PASS I led the whole group on an unofficial lap of the track, then we quietly drove out again. For many there only time ever on the track
Re: Motoring Books - including your bookshelf.
Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2020 7:26 am
by Oldfart
It always was a farm at Seagrove, as were Waharoa and Raglan and others originally, "acquired" during the war as an airfield. When I went out there sometime in the 80's we went and asked the farmer if we could take a walk, to which he agreed. Many of the hexagonal concrete slabs were still in place, and being used for feed out areas, and parking farm machinery. It wasn't hard to figure the circuit and the way the airfield had been laid out.
Re: Motoring Books - including your bookshelf.
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:27 pm
by Remi110984
Readings for the lockout.
A lot more waiting, but these ones are my choices for the month.
Re: Motoring Books - including your bookshelf.
Posted: Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:43 pm
by Roger Dowding
I am re-reading some old Magazines - Sports Car World - from Australia 1961 - 1964 a few random copies that I was given.
- including this one.
Grant Howard was their New Zealand correspondent .
Poster from the 50th Anniversary year of Lakeside 2011.
Posted: Sun Apr 26, 2020 11:51 pm
by Roger Dowding
In 2011 to celebrate Lakeside 50 years 1961 - 2011 - they ran a series of Special Events - apart from the usual series of meetings.
In April May July and August there were special themed meetings around the various classes of Classic / Historic Racing.
Moved to Queensland, Bribie Island in the May - only 40 minutes from Kurwongbah where the track is located.
- Missed the first two meetings but got to the last two, July August. got the Programmes and bought the 50th Anniversary Cap - which has a Racing Car embroidered in the shape of the Track
Nearly up to the 60th Anniversary now, and may get there as this years trip - which should have been starting tomorrow is cancelled.
Re: Motoring Books - including your bookshelf.
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 2:42 pm
by Ray Bell
You don't happen to have the May 1962 issue of Sports Car World do you, Roger?
Looking for details from the Sandown Park International report in that...
Sports Car World - magazines in my colection.
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 9:07 pm
by Roger Dowding
Ray Bell wrote:You don't happen to have the May 1962 issue of Sports Car World do you, Roger?
Looking for details from the Sandown Park International report in that...
Ray Bell, looking in
the box - " the box " is what BMC BOY sent the magazines in to me, the answer is No.
Sports Car World issues I have are
1960 - November
1961 - April, May July [ '61- Cover below '], September, October, November
1963 - June
1964 - March and April
1965 - September
1967 - September
1968 - October .
The other Australian Magazine is " Australian Motor Racing Annual - 1971 ".
Will scratch around though, as when this Country re-opens, will get to the " Greerton Vintage Fayre " and other local events and scour the " Op Shops " and " Secondhand Book Shops ".
Listed the issues in case others are looking for information
Re: Motoring Books - including your bookshelf.
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:17 pm
by Milan Fistonic
Ray. Sandown report from SCW May 1962. I have a full set of Sports Car Worlds if you need any any other information from them.
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Re: Motoring Books - including your bookshelf.
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:46 pm
by Milan Fistonic
Ray. Sandown report from SCW May 1962. I have a full set of Sports Car Worlds if you need any any other information from them.
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Re: Motoring Books - including your bookshelf.
Posted: Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:51 pm
by Roger Dowding
Milan Fistonic wrote:Ray. Sandown report from SCW May 1962. I have a full set of Sports Car Worlds if you need any any other information from them.
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Brilliant, Milan, thanks for that detail
Just realised that the images have gone - the Site no doubt.
Re: Motoring Books - including your bookshelf.
Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 6:23 am
by Ray Bell
Milan, that would be great if you could send them to me...
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Re: Motoring Books - including your bookshelf.
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 8:27 am
by Barrie
I have just gone through my library and was a astounded at what I did have. Here are a few:
The Bruce McLaren Scrapbook by Jan McLaren & Richard Becht
Kiwi Bike Culture by Steve Holmes
Burt Munro – A Scrapbook of his life
The Vintage Years at Brooklands by Dr Joseph Bayley
Full Throttle by Sir Henry Birkin
Dick Seaman by HRH Prince Chula Chakkabongse
Motor Racing Facts and Figures by Rodney L Walkerley
McLaren Memories by Eoin Young
When the Flag Drops by Jack Brabham with Elizabeth Hayward
In the Track of Speed by Stirling Moss
Bruce McLaren, The Man and his Racing Team by Eoin Young
The Motorsport Photography of Terry Marshall
Classic Motorcycles – Norton by Don Morley
Zephyrs & Zodiacs by Tim Chadwick
Legends on Two Wheels by Rhys Jones
Saloon Motorsport in New Zealand by Tim Chadwick
Re: Motoring Books - including your bookshelf.
Posted: Wed May 13, 2020 9:31 am
by ERC
Barrie wrote:I have just gone through my library and was a astounded at what I did have. Here are a few:
Full Throttle by Sir Henry Birkin
Dick Seaman by HRH Prince Chula Chakkabongse
Two of the books on Dad's smallest bookshelf alongside his lounge chair. Sadly, when I went over for his funeral, I never grabbed them, and should have done. They probably got grabbed along with about 800 other books when they started clearing some of the house.