Historic Sport Sedans

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John McKechnie wrote:[ATTACH=CONFIG]25850[/ATTACH]
This could be in - who, when where.
However, since this one of our drivers, then it belongs here.
Who is this extremely loose cannon here, and he didnt roll the car
No cheating by carjam the registation


Mr G.A.
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Rodger-Why do you say that?
Also just got off the phone to Graeme Barnes, he said you used to run NI OSCAs with him, obviously some excellent history here.
Gives you his regards, and absolutely wants to bring the Capri up to have some more battles with you and the guys in January.
I am booking a shed for him tonight.
Aint life neat...........
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Transport situation all sorted with Barrys Monaro.
Width of car from outer wheel to other side is 2250 which rules most trailers out.
Wayne at Pakuranga Auto Transport has given a good price and the Monaro will be there on Friday afternoon for some special attention-to be revealed later.
Richard Quinn has been having trouble with the imput shaft on his car, motor is fine, parts just take some time to organize. Wont be here for Ice Breaker but definitely for Jan.
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John McKechnie wrote:Rodger-Why do you say that?
Also just got off the phone to Graeme Barnes, he said you used to run NI OSCAs with him, obviously some excellent history here.
Gives you his regards, and absolutely wants to bring the Capri up to have some more battles with you and the guys in January.
I am booking a shed for him tonight.
Aint life neat...........


pretty sure he had an a40 early on,
be great to have graeme , tony and team on the grid, great guys the feilding mob :)
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Hello John,
You can quote the below on TRS if you wish.

Rgds,

GA.
Hello John,
I was unable to contact Roger last week, but I am pleased you have, and that you have taken my comment about him being included seriously. Thank you.

As for the Transam Aurora, great looking car, but I have no knowledge of it, it’s history or significance in terms of Historic Sports Sedans, or if it fits within the cut off year. Perhaps you can tell me.
My Charger is a true Certificate of Description (COD) car. I have decided to put the initials COD beside the Charger’s door numbers and on the windscreen, so there can be a clearly seen distinction between a real Historic Sports Sedan and the “fillers”. I think other COD owners will eventually do the same.

Re the “biking” A40 Farina… a Jack Inwood photo….Elbow at Puke…I have a black and white original of this photo that Jack brought into Wild Wheels a couple of weeks after that race meeting…he said that although I had been biking the car around that corner in previous laps, this time it left him shaking, because he did not whether to run, or tough it out and take the shot…big brave bear was our Jack..I miss him.

Just a polite point of correction re space frame based sports sedans…on TRS in the Rebirth Of A Classic thread….Rod Grimwood commented about Brett Willis’ Commodore “The Mazda was Chev powered spaceframe, as was the Camaro. Brett ran a spaceframe Commodore before the Mazda and it was a ground breaking car in sports sedans when it arrived as it was basically the first full space frame car in class along with Bob Homewoods little Escort. Lindsay built a about another 4 frames and cars for other people during this time”
The PDL 2 Mustang, Jim Richards Falcon Coupe, and the Addis Charger, were the first full spaceframe sports sedans and predated the Willis Commodore and the Homewood Escort by approximately 9 years.

I have always made my thoughts about handicap racing starts, and the historic carnage that has happened with these events.
In a handicap start, I will always run off the back, not get involved in the “dance of the desperates” and just play around with the brake bias, or some practice cornering approaches maybe.

Once again John, thank you very much for the work you do for everybody.

Best regards,

Graeme Addis.
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John McKechnie wrote:Hello John,
You can quote the below on TRS if you wish.

Rgds,

GA.
Hello John,
I was unable to contact Roger last week, but I am pleased you have, and that you have taken my comment about him being included seriously. Thank you.

As for the Transam Aurora, great looking car, but I have no knowledge of it, it’s history or significance in terms of Historic Sports Sedans, or if it fits within the cut off year. Perhaps you can tell me.
My Charger is a true Certificate of Description (COD) car. I have decided to put the initials COD beside the Charger’s door numbers and on the windscreen, so there can be a clearly seen distinction between a real Historic Sports Sedan and the “fillers”. I think other COD owners will eventually do the same.

Re the “biking” A40 Farina… a Jack Inwood photo….Elbow at Puke…I have a black and white original of this photo that Jack brought into Wild Wheels a couple of weeks after that race meeting…he said that although I had been biking the car around that corner in previous laps, this time it left him shaking, because he did not whether to run, or tough it out and take the shot…big brave bear was our Jack..I miss him.

Just a polite point of correction re space frame based sports sedans…on TRS in the Rebirth Of A Classic thread….Rod Grimwood commented about Brett Willis’ Commodore “The Mazda was Chev powered spaceframe, as was the Camaro. Brett ran a spaceframe Commodore before the Mazda and it was a ground breaking car in sports sedans when it arrived as it was basically the first full space frame car in class along with Bob Homewoods little Escort. Lindsay built a about another 4 frames and cars for other people during this time”
The PDL 2 Mustang, Jim Richards Falcon Coupe, and the Addis Charger, were the first full spaceframe sports sedans and predated the Willis Commodore and the Homewood Escort by approximately 9 years.

I have always made my thoughts about handicap racing starts, and the historic carnage that has happened with these events.
In a handicap start, I will always run off the back, not get involved in the “dance of the desperates” and just play around with the brake bias, or some practice cornering approaches maybe.

Once again John, thank you very much for the work you do for everybody.

Best regards,

Graeme Addis.



Please be-sure to bring my chocolate fish, being the prize for the above quiz. on the A40
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Rodger-This must be a quiet thread with only one reply.
But as I only need to provide one chocolate fish- flavour,size and weight unspecified- it will be brought along and you can munch it while reading about Jim Boyd.
Ralph was asking just now if you were running at the Ice Breaker, told him you were.
You have quite a following as that makes 5 people asking the same question.
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Hello John,
The A40 is a story …won a lot of stuff with it…had to put up with a lot of crap as well….for me, this has never changed…..even a hassle over a log book 2014…never could abide mini Hitlers…talentless gnomes.
Doing in the dirt with speedway…real people..real racing…brilliant engineering….and bloody hard work…I love it..hot dogs,chips, mud and methanol, and no bullshit…440 yards in an oval, in mud, in 12.46 seconds…you only breath twice a lap...tarmac cant compete!!
A40 Farinas had a beautiful aesthetic that I believe has not been repeated in the auto design industry …and actually was the world’s first hatchback.
That story is part of a book I am writing…about..Kiwi Motorsport, Good stuff, and Bullshit….not able to tell you much more at this time..without compromising the book.
Quote me ..I don’t mind.
B/rgds,
Graeme Addis.
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Hi Guys, I want to make an Apology here as I posted earlier that NZV8 Driver Andrew Anderson would be making an appearance in my Falcon at Icebreaker, I was unaware that I had to ask permission from John, I am newish to this so I suppose its a "rookie" mistake.
I certainly didn't want to upset anybody, it was just a plan to re-unite a Anderson in a Falcon like the early 80's when Bruce (Andrews Father) drove with Dick Johnson in the Pinepac XE Falcon.
Like I said I am very sorry if I have upset anybody and have changed my plans.

Regards Nathan Wood.
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Big day happened at HD today- Barrys Monaro had a super professional photo shoot for a major overseas mag.
Barry has been working extremely hard to get it ready for this and the exposure for this will really kindle interest in Historic Sports Sedan Racing in more than just lil ole nz
All credit to Barry , JAFA and Scotty for their imput this to happen.
The weather held off and later the garage doors were shut
And you will all know about it when it hits the shops.
Scotty will be the coordinator for HSS this weekend as I am unable to be there or even drive
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Scotty will be the coordinator for HSS this weekend as I am unable to be there or even drive[/QUOTE]


WTF What about my chocolate fish!! :(
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chocolate fish will be provided, but cant get the Jim Boyd article to you .
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Too all the crew at HD Ice Breaker, thanks for a great show on Saturday, good to meet some new cars and people and look forward to seeing everyone at the Festival, this has the potential to be a really good class and put on a great show. Great to hear those cars again at full noise (impressive). Cars looked great.
Sorry I was not there on Sunday but I had to slip off.

See you ALL at the Festival.

Too the drivers who attended the briefing in shed 1 on Saturday, we had a 'guest' who mentioned about holding your line, to those who did not pick him, was Robbie Francevic who told me these are his favourite cars and he did not want to see any damage.
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http://www.theroaringseason.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=25914&d=1410671967

Check out my 'Mix of Pics thread' - bottom of the page.

Due to the demands on my time with handicap calculations and doing the starts with young Carter, I didn't spend too much time out trackside, but was grateful of the shelter afforded by the timing box!

Mind you, some regular poster on here was sitting on HEATED SEATS!

Well done for the drivers who ventured out in appalling conditions at times on the Sunday. By the time I left about 3pm Sunday, I think that panel damage was limited to an innocent BMW who was collected in someone else's spin exiting turn 1 and a Formula Ford.

There may have been other problems after I left, but at least our guys managed to come away unscathed bodily. Mechanically it was a different story...
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rogered wrote:Scotty will be the coordinator for HSS this weekend as I am unable to be there or even drive



WTF What about my chocolate fish!! :( [/QUOTE]

LOL attached , my error :)
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OK folks, here are the details on Ralfs car, Chev Monte Carlo, he had a ball in our group which always welcomes OSCAs -

Hi John,
I started building this car in 1995 and it was finished in 2000.
I ran it in one S.I. Osca round in 2001.
I used the engine transmission, and rear axle out of the Mazda RX7 that John Telford now has. (the red Fuchs oil machine)
It is a 358 Cheverolet. (around 550 horse power)
A Saenz H pattern 5 speed gear box, a Speedway Engineering quick change rear end.
Brembo front brakes, AP rear brakes, Simmons 5x5 wheels.
It is a basic car, built to South Island Osca specs, as in the year 1995.
Hope this all helps, thanks very much for your phone calls etc,
see you soon,
kind regards
Ralph and Denise Mossman.
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Supertourers is that the best they could do this weekend,boring,don't no about you lot out there in little old nz this class is not working.You would get more there with say 5 of the old sport sedans that are out there.it may take sometime but this class will come back, but like most things today you have to have some $s to do this
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Yep you are right, fire some of those $s my way.

It is great to see the cars that have come out of hiding, and as you say it will get better.
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Ok you are in the know,just off the top of your head would you have a list of the cars that are out there that with a bit of work could be made to run again.
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the only good thing about the S/tourers was some of the teams/drivers reading and understanding the rules. those who did so should be rewarded. Well Done
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