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Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:43 am
by Bryan
The Team Surtees van is a left-hooker, possibly Chevy?
The Embassy Racing van in the top pic is a Transit, although not as quick as Ford's Supervan

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Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:57 am
by 928
ERC,
I think the marlboro BRM mechanic is probably pushing in his ear plugs. I doubt that Mr Stanley would spring for walkie talkies
Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 5:04 am
by ERC
Well spotted Bryan! I think you are spot on.
I never saw the Ford Super van (Cosworth DFV powered?) but a legendary piece of kit!
You could be right about the BRM mechanic, but the Tecno guy certainly looks to be holding something to his ear.
* Edited to correct my initial note that it was a Brabham!
Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:41 am
by Alan Hyndman
Youtube can help you on that count Ray:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qg6WdboK1nY(According to the narrator, it's a 5 litre Gurney Weslake V8.)
Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 6:14 pm
by conrod
correct, 5 litre Gurney Weslake/ Ford. The whole rear end, engine, transaxle and suspension were taken from a GT40 race car and grafted into the rear of the Transit.

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:55 pm
by Alan Hyndman
I'm now picturing a GT40 out there somewhere with a Transit donk sitting in the back of it.
Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:18 pm
by Bryan
Wiki claims it was a steel shell bolted to a GT40 chassis. 1984's Supervan 2 was a fibreglass shell on a C100 chassis with a Cosworth DFL, and got rebuilt with a new body and Cosworth HB engine to become Supervan 3 in 1994.
Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection
Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:09 pm
by John McKechnie
Always said that it doesnt take too much to make a Tranzit into a Tranzam.
Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection
Posted: Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:33 am
by ERC
I think that this was probably the first public appearance of the Jaguar XJ13 but as I wasn't keeping a diary in 1973, it looks from the background as though it was in fact taken on GP practice day. That being the case, I can't remember whether or not I was there both days and if so, did I do the journey home twice?!!!
Its a beggar getting old, but at least I kept a full diary from 1964 to 1969 and again, everyday since January 1st 1990.
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What is interesting about this V12 Jag, is that it was competing at Curborough April 1974, not so very long after the model was announced.
If putting a 3.8 Jag engine into a Morris Minor wasn't enough, this one was supercharged! Hilarious to watch as it was bit wayward. Later, they removed the supercharger...
Sticking to the transplant theme, the "Berpop" was a regular at Mallory Park - though it sometimes didn't make the start.
This was the only time I ever saw this car.
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Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection
Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2014 8:01 am
by ERC
Currently up to January 1983, when I arrived in NZ, logging all the individual negatives only (not slides). Just over 4,000 so far (not just cars)...
Interesting - but tiring.
PC is away with major software problems (Raid - mirrors two hard drives) after one of the hard drives was replaced and some things no longer work as they should.
Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:31 am
by seaqnmac27
ERC wrote:Well spotted Bryan! I think you are spot on.
I never saw the Ford Super van (Cosworth DFV powered?) but a legendary piece of kit!
You could be right about the BRM mechanic, but the Brabham guy certainly looks to be holding something to his ear.
Looking again, is the guy with his back to the camera on the Brabham, one Bernie Ecclestone?
Sorry, am a bit confused as to the Brabham reference as there are no Brabhams in those pics, the Martini sponsored car would be Chris Amon in the Tecno and the white Surtees next to it, by the look of the helmet, is probably Jochen Mass.
Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:30 am
by ERC
Thanks very much for that. I should have checked instead of relying on what is obviously a fading memory... I must have been confused with my later visit to the British GP!
I'll adjust the words - incidentally, it appears that the car shown was only practiced and didn't race anyway!
The Martini sponsorship went to Brabham the following year.
Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection
Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2014 8:07 am
by seaqnmac27
Actually, this is 73, Martini sponsorship at Brabham started beginning of 75. This is also the Goral design Tecno, as opposed to the McCall design, I will post the Autocourse pictures from 73 to show the difference
Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:45 am
by SPman
ERC wrote:British Grand Prix Silverstone 1973 - when the public had chance to see their heroes and the cars.
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Is the ginger haired gent on the left, Geoff Manning I wonder?
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Is this Graham Hill's Shadow DN1?
Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:45 am
by SPman
British Grand Prix Silverstone 1973 - when the public had chance to see their heroes and the cars.
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Is the ginger haired gent on the left, Geoff Manning I wonder?
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Is this Graham Hill's Shadow DN1?
Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 6:12 am
by ERC
Yes!
Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 6:14 am
by ERC
Yes!
To delete, click on the "Go Advanced" and tick the box on the left - and on the right...
Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection
Posted: Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:15 am
by khyndart in CA
Silverstone 1973.
Here are 2 of the cars in your photos at Silverstone. July 1973
Note John Surtees in the background standing by Jochen Mass's white Surtees TS 14A)
The next day it was smashed in the Jody Scheckter first lap pile up
(photos from Motor Racing Year book 1974 Edition )
Actually the Year book is not correct as the Clay Regazzoni Marlboro-BRM P160 E had
number 19 for this eventful weekend.
Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection
Posted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:40 am
by SPman
ERC wrote:Yes!
To delete, click on the "Go Advanced" and tick the box on the left - and on the right...
Tried all that - it stubbornly refuses to delete.
Did GH race the Shadow for the full year?
Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection
Posted: Fri Nov 07, 2014 8:43 pm
by ERC
Two things here. First of all, can anyone confirm the date? I believe it is January/February 1984 Benson & Hedges but I need the exact date.
Secondly, this negative strip wasn't in good condition so I attacked it with a photoshop filter and gradually removed the dust and scratches. My dad would have loved this technology, as he used to do it all by hand in the days of B & W pics. Called spotting on the prints.
The downside is of course that it takes an age to scan negatives and this just makes the whole process even longer, but I think it is well worth the time and effort on selected pics. Looks as though I missed the roof of the building on pic 2...
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