Mt Maunganui NOT Baypark

[khyndart in CA]

Grant,
You have good memories to share. Maybe the young fella in my photo should have joined you on the trampolines !
Excuse my dumb question but what is the white something on the front windshield as I can see it in my photo as well ?
I know it was a hot day so is it a vent perhaps ?

[Grant Sprague]

Ken its not a dumb question ........... you think like me my friend.. I looked at this also I am 100% certain it is the reflextion frm the sun onto chrome molding .... as for the young fella he looks pensive & more interested some thing else these cars were noisy in the day with straight pipes etc so he could be checking out the girls lol.... nice warm saturday here Ken .......

[Roger Dowding]

Going through this thread - from " Oldfart's " Inquiry.

These photos from Graeme Kennish archives - Allan Dick had posted them and indicated it was 1964.
From comments here It seems that the track was used in 1962 - 1963.

Jaguar and Zephyr .. Alistair McBeath #66 and Sprague had #51 in 1962

Small Saloon Car field, Austin A40's, a VW, Anglia's, Mini's. - 1962 - [ not as noted on the photo- to be corrected ]. Details from Milan Fistonic - Race numbers from Entry List ;
Kerry Grant A40 994 cc ?#70
Paul Fahey VW #71
C M Hogan Anglia 997 #42
-[ pre the Allardette version - Supercharged rated at 1. 5 times = 1495 cc 997 or 1497 cc - 998 motor ]
Neil Johns Mini Cooper 997 #59
Brian Ax A40 948cc #64

J Murphy Q *** in his Anglia #34 - attacking the Haybales. He is entered in 1963 as #34 Anglia with a 1640cc engine.
Another Anglia was #34 in 1962 with a 998 cc engine - this has narrow wheels so maybe the 1962 Race. Also others of Allans photos from 1962.

Need to check the details against the Entry Lists from GD66 and Milan Fistonic copied below

December 1962 - the last weekend of the year which became the traditional date for the Big Baypark meeting.

December 1963

I have a couple of Newspaper /Motorman articles which I show as being 1964 .. buy guess published in January 1964 about the December 28th, 1963 Event ??

[Milan Fistonic]

The two Mount Maunganui events were held on December 29, 1962 and December 28, 1963.

The cars in the second photo are:

Kerry Grant - A40
Paul Fahey - VW
Morrie Hogan - Anglia
Neil Johns - Mini
Brian Ax - A40

They finished in the order Grant, Johns, Hogan, Murray Charles and AX. Fahey retired on lap 3.

[Roger Dowding]

The two Mount Maunganui events were held on December 29, 1962 and December 28, 1963.

The cars in the second photo are:

Kerry Grant - A40
Paul Fahey - VW
Morrie Hogan - Anglia
Neil Johns - Mini
Brian Ax - A40

They finished in the order Grant, Johns, Hogan, Murray Charles and AX. Fahey retired on lap 3.

Thanks Milan, noticed two VW entries in the 1962 event.

C M Hogan - The Ford " Anglia " was a 997cc in 1962 and a 1498cc in 1963 - presume as the Allardette was Supercharged and they put a 1.5 ratio on the cc's of supercharged cars. Was it the same Anglia just with the Allard supercharger kit or a new car ??

Allard under Sidney Allard's son [ Allan Allard ] have made recreations of the Allardette in recent years.

Photos from a 2019 Edition of Octane Magazine

[Roger Dowding]

A photo has emerged at the Mount Circuit with a Jaguar Mk2 and a Humber 80 number #54.
Some discussion about the car as originally noted as the Archibald Jaguar.

Humber 80 - in 1962 a Humber had race #54 driven by R W Fuller, in 1963 it was Dennis Marwood race number.
Simon Taylor ran a Jaguar Mk 2 in 1962 - Race #33.
Alister Mcbeath ran one as Race #66 in 1962 - his car did not have the nose covering.

So ... Who is it ???

The Photo; Car Race number on the Jaguar looks like " #50 "
Note ; Plate is " 708.158 " not as on photo - had to magnify to read it properly and is not the plate that McBeath had " 239.322 "

[John H]

The Photo; I was there beside the road when the Stanton rode up the rear wheel of the David Young Cooper clearly I remember seeing the underside of the car as it flipped. Matich pulled up looked around the moved on. From then on the marshal had no difficulty getting the spectators to move back!! it could easily have been a 1955 Lemans. The Stanton crashed down the other side of the road amongst the logs.

[Milan Fistonic]

The number on the Jaguar is 50. It's John Ward's car from 1963.

[Roger Dowding]

Milan, thank you

" The number on the Jaguar is 50. It's John Ward's car from 1963. "
Interestingly the photo of the Jaguar #50 and the Humber #54 featured in the Motorman report on the Event.
Here is the same photo - image from John Climo archives.

Also note that the other Humber that was #54 in 1962 of R Fuller was in the race at #52.

Would like to have images of the rest of the races - to fill in a few gaps in " The Knowledge ".

Whose car was it, before John Ward got it - has similar nose protection to the Archibald Jaguar and others of the time.

Here from Levin 1960 - not sure who - not Simon Taylor [ in my opinion ** see Milan's note and entry list post #48 - next one ] as he didn't seem to protect his car at events. seems like he did. !

[Milan Fistonic]

Here from Levin 1960 - not sure who - not Simon Taylor [ in my opinion ] as he didn't seem to protect his car at events

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Probably this race from the November 1960 meeting at Levin.

I can see Zephyr 41, Singer 34, Simca Aronde 7, Jaguar 45 (Simon Taylor), Mini 67, Morris Minor 65? and possibly the A40 next to the Jaguar.

[Roger Dowding]

This photo appeared on the " Broadspeed + .. ] Facebook group - with no details.

It is the Mount

The car had a 1650cc motor and was, I understand, not a Lotus Twincam, but a very good OHV engine in a Lotus Cortina body/chassis.

John Climo, who now lives in Kallangur Queensland, and was behind the Rod Coppins Zephyr Corvette recreation that is now for sale - has this from Motorman. Early 1964 Edition.

Page 2, with the Ward Jaguar, Marwood Humber photo.

Page 3,

Page 4,

The Track was Totara Street a small section of Hull Road rectangle using a small piece of Hewletts Road and Tasman Quay as the other long straight - Image from a recent AA Map.

- Where was the start finish ? and which direction did it run - Clockwise ??

[Roger Dowding]

The Track Map Glen Ducey archives.

Aligned top = North. Above

Below - as it was in the Programme ?

The recent Map [ again ]. In Monchrome.