The Roaring Season

928 wrote:see post #29 crunch.
sorry jac mac, I did not intend what I said to be a comparsion. more a point of reference as to noise levels the LVVTA measure in a static location now and have an RPM level for most engine types I understand

Thought the solution had been suggested by putting a remit to AGCM.
If you want to lay blame, then blame me as I was on the Manfield Board 20+ years ago when we were the first race circuit in NZ to actually have to introduce noise control. The system that was agreed at that time with local councils has by de-facto been the one that other councils have referred to...probably because all the work and paper-shuffling had been done and it was easier to just pick that up. That original system is the one that is in the MSNZ book today.

At the time it cost Manfield the equivalent of resealing a third of the track, big numbers...but had to be done otherwise the residents would have shut us down.

Crunch,I am not looking to blame anyone. All I want to do is wake people up to the fact that the system now in place needs to be looked at and changed if possible. msnz is the national body and they should be proactive and suggesting things to members not sitting on their hands waiting for a remit. msnz are paid to run motor sport in nz as I understand, but from what I have read, on here and on other boards, they would appear to be afraid to suggest anything. Not what I call good management at all.
For openers lets have all noise readings and relavent weather conditions published so comparisons can be made over the years and between events.
928

928 wrote:Crunch,I am not looking to blame anyone. All I want to do is wake people up to the fact that the system now in place needs to be looked at and changed if possible. msnz is the national body and they should be proactive and suggesting things to members not sitting on their hands waiting for a remit. msnz are paid to run motor sport in nz as I understand, but from what I have read, on here and on other boards, they would appear to be afraid to suggest anything. Not what I call good management at all.
For openers lets have all noise readings and relavent weather conditions published so comparisons can be made over the years and between events.
928

Remit option is the best, because all circuits are involved. I understand that Timaru has the most stringent set of rules, whereas through clever thinking, Hampton Downs have the easiest. No one is afraid of making decisions. What you could remember is that what you read on public forums are personal opinions, more often that not slagging the sport because they don't have the full story, or one side of the story. As I said previously, the is already an Exec inquiry in place which involves the noise situation at Puke, and the sport is already dealing with the council and their noise contractor up there. I probably have said too much already on that. But in the interests of changing rules of the sport, most of the sport needs to be involved and at the moment; that can only happen at conference. The only rider to that should be rules for safety that arise out of real situations.

thank crunch, when will the enquiry results be published. Oh anything I read anywhere or am told is suspect unless proven otherwise.
still like to see msnz or ANY of the powers that be publish the results of noise tests, or,m the way I think says they did not happen.

928 wrote:thank crunch, when will the enquiry results be published. Oh anything I read anywhere or am told is suspect unless proven otherwise.
still like to see msnz or ANY of the powers that be publish the results of noise tests, or,m the way I think says they did not happen.

I know years ago at Manfield, if noise testing was done, the results were on the noticeboard at the circuit

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A small group of residents damn near succeeded in closing Timaru over noise issues and it is not only about noise created by cars, it included the cheering of the crowd, the PA system, anything that can emit noise. One of the issues I remember well was that there were some race horses stabled nearby and when our announcer got a bit excited about what was happening on the circuit the horses picked up on that and started to behave as they would just prior to racing. Relocating our speakers so that they were directed away from them got rid of that issue but getting rid of the resource consent that we are locked into, well that is another matter all together.

Noise testing is done every time you are on the circuit at Levels, if you are over then you are personally advised. Fortunately today it appears that it is only when something has been damaged that the need to talk to people occurs. It is a very long time since anyone was black flagged for excess noise

Im constantly offended by the noise coming from the vocal minority, who grizzell about noise from the circuits.

a voice of sanity in this pc world

So right Roger. 'Loud, vocal outspoken minority', just listen to dick wick Rob Norman he will solve all.

How the F&^% was the world or anything on it originally built without some noise.

Why people listen to these pathetic dicks amazes me.

Rod Grimwood wrote:So right Roger. 'Loud, vocal outspoken minority', just listen to dick wick Rob Norman he will solve all.

How the F&^% was the world or anything on it originally built without some noise.

Why people listen to these pathetic dicks amazes me.

Rod!!!
You are being so harsh. Even the Greenies have a place - fertiliser!

Tony- you are being too kind:if its Brown, then flush it.

rogered wrote:Im constantly offended by the noise coming from the vocal minority, who grizzell about noise from the circuits.

...especially the ones who move in way after the race circuit was built! They buy the property for a lower value because of the track (circuit or speedway) and then want to close the track so they can sell the property for a higher value. Also happens around Gun clubs that use to be in the country big are now on the outskirts

crunch wrote:I know years ago at Manfield, if noise testing was done, the results were on the noticeboard at the circuit

Sorry 928, I missed your question.
The President is making equiries via his position in local Govt and is reporting back to the April Exec meeting with those findings. As for the specific Exec enquiry regarding the placement of the noise meter at Pukekohe, I think that is happening next week and the result will be on the MSNZ website

thanks Crunch. I will keep an eye out

John McKechnie wrote:Tony- you are being too kind:if its Brown, then flush it.

Are you alluding to Len Brown?

Sadly RacerT he (Len Brown) would come back as Queen Ann Chocolate, he shore can duck the crap.

Yes, greasy little lawyer!
95% of lawyers give the rest a bad name!

The best mayor we had in a while was Les Mills, no PC rubbish, honest and hard working.

RacerT wrote:Are you alluding to Len Brown?

It was a poster on the door of gentleman racer whose office is just down the road from me in Ellerslie- ever seen it?

Yes, A top bloke!