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Rodger- I left Papakura Rodders and joined the Triumph Sports Car club 4 months later for club gymkanas.
Hot Rod magazine had a fantastic action pic of Marwood blasting off the line in his Camaro- anyone got it and want to post it>
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Spgeti wrote:From probably 1976 I used to trip down to Meremere to watch these things. Last saw Baloo run at Thunder Park with the old man of drag racing Mike Gearing doing the spanner work. Garth Hogan had just run 5.3 seconds that day in the rail. Pete lodge said Baloo had never run so straight....

I am sure these things had Mini or Imp parts...


Thunder Park, Napier, ahh !! memories, ran there in '84 in a Healey,
We, AHCCNZ inc. the " Healey Club " had use for an afternoon, with a couple of the organising club timing, have my time sheets, a bit slow as borrowed a mates 3000 Healey, I had a very sad 100/4.
Frank Karl was there too!!, with this, and a " WolsHealey " Wolseley 16/60 " as a support vehicle and looking after a bunch of American healeyites from the West Coast USA.

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John McKechnie wrote:Rodger- I left Papakura Rodders and joined the Triumph Sports Car club 4 months later for club gymkanas.
Hot Rod magazine had a fantastic action pic of Marwood blasting off the line in his Camaro- anyone got it and want to post it>


John, M, was in the Auckland Triumph Club in the late 70's, from '77 to 80/81 ish, with the TR4, a bit bent by late 1980 September. so got it back from the Insurance company and was repaired / rebuilt.
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and as Ken Hyndman says full of bog .. thanks Ken. but you were right..

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My abandoned 1300cc Broadspeed Elf project. Shell (and another) went for scrap (pre Trade Me) before I had the chance to slope the screen and start on the rear end.

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Here's my old de Joux chassis with chromolly rollcage. Sold many years ago due to job loss.....

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A different de Joux body of mine (since sold to Oz) next to my old Clubman GT....

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Paul Wilkinson wrote:Here's my old de Joux chassis with chromolly rollcage. Sold many years ago due to job loss.....

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A different de Joux body of mine (since sold to Oz) next to my old Clubman GT....

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Paul, that is one substantial chassis, I always thought the Mini De Joux, was just the Mini floorpan, now realise had the front bulkhead
and part of the inner guards, as well ar the rear bulkhead the back seat support.
A friend of mine had a De Joux, back in 1978, which had a lift up back window, it was a deep green. I was envious as only had 850 cc standard Minis by then, although they were slightly modified
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ERC wrote:My abandoned 1300cc Broadspeed Elf project. Shell (and another) went for scrap (pre Trade Me) before I had the chance to slope the screen and start on the rear end.

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Paul did you shift the grille down to run a standard bonnet ?, I always thought an Elf / Hornet bonnet would be great to push air to the carburettor, although often the speedo was moved and the 40/42 DCOE Weber had it trumpets in the speedo space.
Spgeti will love this ..
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Roger Dowding wrote:Paul, that is one substantial chassis, I always thought the Mini De Joux, was just the Mini floorpan, now realise had the front bulkhead
and part of the inner guards, as well ar the rear bulkhead the back seat support.
A friend of mine had a De Joux, back in 1978, which had a lift up back window, it was a deep green. I was envious as only had 850 cc standard Minis by then, although they were slightly modified


The stock de Joux chassis had the front bulkhead with extra box sections to hang the doors from. As you say, they also had extra box sections inside the car -running up the length of each sill and boxing in the rear seat panel. They got zero stiffness from the body. Mine was obviously a bit different. Mark Herbert built it for me - this is the original I delivered to him....

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He built a beam rear end too.

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Roger Dowding wrote:Paul did you shift the grille down to run a standard bonnet? I always thought an Elf / Hornet bonnet would be great to push air to the carburettor, although often the speedo was moved and the 40/42 DCOE Weber had it trumpets in the speedo space.
Spgeti will love this ..

Its Ray, not Paul, Roger!!!! I never had an issue with airflow using a standard bonnet and the twin 1.5" SUs (which I also still have) as I did the same grille drop with the tattiest Wolseley Hornet you have ever seen, (same engine, but before a full, rebuild) which I sprinted and hillclimbed in the UK, with a fair bit of success, in the under 1300cc road-going modified class... That shell got left behind in the UK, but all the mechanical bits came with me.

With the Wolseley, I just cut the bottom off the grille, but with the Riley, I cut back the front valance and parked the oil cooler there and retained the full length grille, which looks better IMHO.

I had a fibreglass bonnet for this car and dropped the grille as my pet hate is bonnets that lift with the grille, usually making access difficult, not to mention smacking your head on it! When I look at my drawings of what the Broadspeed Elf was supposed to look like, I thought it would look pretty good, as the rear overhang was better looking than the standard Broadspeed with the GT rear end on a standard Mini base.

It was always going to be 'SMILEY' the Riley so I bought the personalised plate as soon as they came out. That plate is now on the Marcos, which has been off the road since 2006. The car was on the road legally very briefly in the early 1980's, but sadly, I never got the chance to see what it could really do, so the engine has only done about 200km running in since the build by a specialist in the UK who competed with a Turner (BMC A Series engine).

I have done the same with the Magnette project. The grille is now fixed - though easily detachable.
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ERC, sorry about the name had just commented on Paul's De Joux.. mea culpa !!
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Autonews article March 23, 1970 entitled Fords Imps and Minis

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Frank Hamlin " Sprint " type Mini.

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and two Imps, Brimar and Harrington..
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Paul- what ever happened to your old De Joux ?
It has been a long time since I have ever seen one.
I had an orange one with a 1100 back in 1974/75 its on this thread.
A friend Alex Isbey had one, it was Colin Broadleys old one- he was a radio DJ back in 60s/70s and he rolled it off the northwestern motorway. You may remember Alex in a Mini Cooper from the old Hill Climb days early 70s.
He built a Mini with a 1500 Maxi with 5 speed in, rolled it in a rally. He was part of the way putting this motor and subframe in this damaged De Joux and go racing again with it.
Last saw it at hie house in 1976, he is no longer with us, but what happened to this car?
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Paul- what ever happened to your old De Joux ?
It has been a long time since I have ever seen one.
I had an orange one with a 1100 back in 1974/75 its on this thread-#155.
They were a really neat shape, very light and my wife loved driving it.
A friend Alex Isbey had one, it was Colin Broadleys old one- he was a radio DJ back in 60s/70s and he rolled it off the northwestern motorway. You may remember Alex in a Mini Cooper from the old Hill Climb days early 70s, very quick he was.
He built a Mini with a 1500 Maxi with 5 speed in, rolled it in a rally. He was part of the way putting this motor and subframe in this damaged De Joux and go racing again with it.
Last saw it at his house in 1976, sadly he is no longer with us, but what happened to this car?
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Post #636 in my Mix of Pics' just added. Mini & Imps...
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John McKechnie wrote:Paul- what ever happened to your old De Joux ?
It has been a long time since I have ever seen one.
I had an orange one with a 1100 back in 1974/75 its on this thread-#155.
They were a really neat shape, very light and my wife loved driving it.
A friend Alex Isbey had one, it was Colin Broadleys old one- he was a radio DJ back in 60s/70s and he rolled it off the northwestern motorway. You may remember Alex in a Mini Cooper from the old Hill Climb days early 70s, very quick he was.
He built a Mini with a 1500 Maxi with 5 speed in, rolled it in a rally. He was part of the way putting this motor and subframe in this damaged De Joux and go racing again with it.
Last saw it at his house in 1976, sadly he is no longer with us, but what happened to this car?


That de Joux is one of three I have owned over the years. I had a rather special engine and box built for it and all the suspension/brakes was brand new and adjustable yadda yadda yadda.... Then the business we were in went a bit pear-shaped and we had to liquidate the toys, the de Joux, an s4 Lotus 7 and a Manta Mirage. That was 8 1/2 years ago and apparently the de Joux hasn't been touched since it was rolled off the trailer by its new owner all those years ago!
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I see some comments above about the De Joux cars. At the recent opening of the Eastern Link road at Papamoa in August I saw this car and had a quick talk to the owner who is from Tauranga. Might be of interest to some of you.

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