NEW CLASS / SERIES; Historic Sports Sedans. formation meeting.20/04/13 ACC

[camaroman slp]

Steve Ross should take up the PDL mustang 1 to race with the ex Jim Richards sidchrome mustang

[camaroman slp]

Steve Ross should take up the PDL mustang 1 to race with Georges ex Jim Richards sidchrome mustang that would be neat to see.I hope we are lucky to see full video footage on this site cheers.

[Grant Sprague]

If you gave Steve a phone call , I would just about put some $$ on it he would turn up .............. would you like me to test the water for you let me know , but wil have to act on it soon .....

[Steve Holmes]

Now that would be something to see, those two historic Mustang's on the track together, for the first time in over 30 years.

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[George Sheweiry]

Once again guys thank you for the support, with regards to PDL 1 from what I understand the car is now fitted with Nascar engine and box, I dont know why you would want to do that but if enough people have a word in his ear , Ya never know!

[George Sheweiry]

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[George Sheweiry]

So the days are falling away fast to our inaugural HSS meet. A surprise paid up entry is Roger Williams in the ex Bowe/Thompson Mercedes coupe. Welcome aboard Roger and thank you for the support to this new series. I had not contacted Roger or any of the others who were running in the Allcomer class he had organised because I did not want to tread on any toes or be responsible for taking cars from another class to create yet another new class. Of course with the inclusion of this car it will make redundant 95% of the cars that have so far made intentions to run, as like PDL ll it is a full space frame car and was built in the later years of sports sedans thus utilising all mods and advances up to that date in its construction where as the earlier cars were more a conventional car with the addition of bigger wheels with flares a different make of engine and perhaps some engine setback. But this will make for a great charge in the handicap race and I think will be the race to watch, mainly because in a scratch race the cars basically finish in the same order as they start, but of course in a handicap its anyones guess, which will make it just that much more interesting. Also I would like to welcome John Rush in a mkll Escort chev 350 who is currently working on the car to have it ready possibly by the 3rd or 4th meeting


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[Rod Grimwood]

We had a few space frame, frame/floor pan cars back then, even a black modified VW.

The Merc is a neat bit of gear and be great to see it out there. it was one of Aussies top Sports Sedans when Bryan Thompson built and ran it.
Photo is when Thompson ran twin turbos on it.
See you there.

[rogered]

Am i right in thinking this thing was built from hannu Mikkola merc rally car that ran in NZ.

PM sent rod

[Steve Holmes]

Roger, is this the Escort you're referring to? Is this the car Brendon Neiman (sp?) built and raced many years ago?

[CUSTAXIE50]

Once again guys thank you for the support, with regards to PDL 1 from what I understand the car is now fitted with Nascar engine and box, I dont know why you would want to do that but if enough people have a word in his ear , Ya never know!

You asked why,$18,000 gets you a rebuilt nascar engine with 850hp where would you get a engine in nz for that.

[rogered]

yes your right about the escort, but the mercedes i had a feeling was a works rally car

[John McKechnie]

You asked why,$18,000 gets you a rebuilt nascar engine with 850hp where would you get a engine in nz for that.

Nascar motors not original specifications., therefore has no value in famous Historic car.
Answer to your question- get a brand new Arrow 351 Cleveland block, ex Aus, and do it up.These blocks will get 850hp plus and you can still use original cast 4V heads.
Spend a bit more, but it is correct and can now run in Historic meetings.
Simple really.

[George Sheweiry]

You asked why,$18,000 gets you a rebuilt nascar engine with 850hp where would you get a engine in nz for that.

I asked the question why would you do that because what class would you run it in? It would besides the price have been purchased to be competitive but even if you put the latest engine, brakes and gearbox in it, is it going to beat a trans am car? I dont think so, but now if we can get the good ole mainlanders to start an HSS class the car could then run in its original specs and of course we could then have those great North/South clashes and Ian Munt has already got the beginnings of a similar class.

[George Sheweiry]

Roger, is this the Escort you're referring to? Is this the car Brendon Neiman (sp?) built and raced many years ago?

John Rush said in his email that the escort was built in 1999 and has Capri front struts, wilwoods a falcon diff and a tremec box

[George Sheweiry]

Am i right in thinking this thing was built from hannu Mikkola merc rally car that ran in NZ.

PM sent rod

those mercs were pretty impressive, I recall they helicoptered in a new diff when they broke one somewhere in the forest. Was that the Heatway Rally?

[CUSTAXIE50]

Nascar motors not original specifications., therefore has no value in famous Historic car.
Answer to your question- get a brand new Arrow 351 Cleveland block, ex Aus, and do it up.These blocks will get 850hp plus and you can still use original cast 4V heads.
Spend a bit more, but it is correct and can now run in Historic meetings.
Simple really.

yes i know its not the same,spend a bit more you say what would it be $30,000

[CUSTAXIE50]

I asked the question why would you do that because what class would you run it in? It would besides the price have been purchased to be competitive but even if you put the latest engine, brakes and gearbox in it, is it going to beat a trans am car? I dont think so, but now if we can get the good ole mainlanders to start an HSS class the car could then run in its original specs and of course we could then have those great North/South clashes and Ian Munt has already got the beginnings of a similar class.

The car was build from a road car like yours, a trans am car as you know is not the same in any way at all only my view.

[George Sheweiry]

The car was build from a road car like yours, a trans am car as you know is not the same in any way at all only my view.

Yes, I agree Custaxie50, in fact that was my point, what class could you run the car in, The Brennan GT1 class?? which of course runs TA cars and of course with that engine etc it wouldn't be allowed to run in any Historic class. And that is the whole point, it is such a significant piece of NZ saloon car history that it needs to be as it was, and if you go back thru the HSS thread that seems to be the majority line of thought. In fact i'm glad you brought this up because you have just jolted my mind about inviting the Custaxie ll to run at the first meeting of HSS. Would you or anyone reading this post know how I can get hold of the current owner. Thanks for that Custaxe50! George.

[CUSTAXIE50]

Yes, I agree Custaxie50, in fact that was my point, what class could you run the car in, The Brennan GT1 class?? which of course runs TA cars and of course with that engine etc it wouldn't be allowed to run in any Historic class. And that is the whole point, it is such a significant piece of NZ saloon car history that it needs to be as it was, and if you go back thru the HSS thread that seems to be the majority line of thought. In fact i'm glad you brought this up because you have just jolted my mind about inviting the Custaxie ll to run at the first meeting of HSS. Would you or anyone reading this post know how I can get hold of the current owner. Thanks for that Custaxe50! George.

As we all know the all new custaxie is in Wanganui,the gent who works on this car has a place in Wanganui if i recall right the phone number is 06 3453228 hope this is some good to you.as i said before i may come up for the meeting,now if you get the custaxie to run that weekend how could i not come up for a look see, all the best to you and others who have put all this work into getting some of the old girls out there.