Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

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ERC wrote:I don't seem to have a race programme for this meeting so would welcome any comment or car/driver i/d to help me date the pics.

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When looking at the neg before scanning, I first thought this was the Freeth Starlet - same sponsorship livery.
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Shame this one is a bit out of focus, but what happened to that Renault?
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The days when photographers got up close and personal... Not so sure that I'd be perched there without anything to dive behind if things went to custard.
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the mini is lance evans
starlet is roger freeth
renalt is steve pearson of tauranga. think the engine was from him renault/ imp
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Yep, Pearson ran a Imp with Renault engine in it, and then in this car. Roger, was it the Imp he turned on it's roof going down the front straight at Puke when he hit the crossing and it bounced and went sideways and onto roof in practice. Remember we were in pits standing with Rutherford and co. just getting into our cars when heard a funny bounce noise, then a skid and a grinding noise, and looked over pit wall to see it on its lid slidding down the track. Didn't hit anything either, he was pretty lucky.
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Thanks for that. I have the Pearson Renault down as 3500cc on 31/01/1993 also carrying the same number - 81, so could this be 1993 after all?
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Rod Grimwood wrote:Yep, Pearson ran a Imp with Renault engine in it, and then in this car. Roger, was it the Imp he turned on it's roof going down the front straight at Puke when he hit the crossing and it bounced and went sideways and onto roof in practice. Remember we were in pits standing with Rutherford and co. just getting into our cars when heard a funny bounce noise, then a skid and a grinding noise, and looked over pit wall to see it on its lid slidding down the track. Didn't hit anything either, he was pretty lucky.


yeah, your right. i remember that.
i think he had a couple of good hits in that little car.
didnt it come unstuck infront of the club rooms at taupo as well? neet liitle car that went real well, but a short wheel base caught it out a couple of times
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rogered wrote:yeah, your right. i remember that.
i think he had a couple of good hits in that little car.
didnt it come unstuck infront of the club rooms at taupo as well? neet liitle car that went real well, but a short wheel base caught it out a couple of times


Think the Renault went upside down at Taupo i think it was in practice. Wheels were still spinning when we came through esse's and it was in middle of track.
The Renault also featured in some action at Wellington street race I think.
As you say, The Imp was quick but tended to have it's own mind on bumps etc.
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A few reds... Hulme Festival 2013

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The Jensen Healey was a Jensen squealy, being driven hard - until the left rear wheel parted company with the rest of the car.
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a few whites...

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Did he catch it? Nope...
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and blues...

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Rasmussen senior and junior.
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Nice to see another little brother...
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The other Picture is of George Spratt's Aurora. I think it was mid engined. George was an interesting but very clever chap who used to drive around in a Roller. I think he put a Mini Engine and Subframe into the rear of a BMW Isetta. Post Certification (1990) guys are still building cars but we dont see as many one offs as we did in the 80's. Graeme
Yes - the Aurora has a Rover V8 out back. George no longer has the Roller, but does have a Bentley T series - with a Nissan 6 cyl diesel in it! He also has an XJ6 S2 - with a Nissan 6 cyl diesel in it! The BMW Isetta does have a Mini engine in it - looks quite tidy, too.
George is an Electrical engineer and works for Bill Buckley making machines that make silcon chips. (I shared a house with him for some years)
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ERC wrote:Silverstone test session , probably at the same time as Howard & the de Cadanet Lola. I think from memory this is a Brabham, but stand corrected.
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Ok so this IS Loris Kessel, its a Non Championship GP at Silverstone April 11 1976
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Just a comment or a plea. If you want to use any of these pics, (or from any other contributor for that matter), such as for your own Facebook pages, or any publication, whether for profit or not, it would be polite to ask for permission first - and also acknowledge the photographer if you do use them - please.

In recent times, one of mine has been used on a race programme cover (without permission) and at least one I have found as someone's Facebook profile.

It takes a lot of time and effort (just ask Steve!) to scan and edit so that pics are at least worth looking at, particularly from old negatives and slides. Cropping sensibly, colour balancing and correcting fading is not quick work, even when you are confident. At least 30% of the ones I have scanned have been deleted as not being of sufficiently high quality to show - and I don't really want to cover mine with a watermark/logo even though the uploaded quality is considerably reduced, but I can see why others do.
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Just a comment. If you want to use any of these pics, (or from any other contributor for that matter), such as for your own Facebook pages, or any publication, whether for profit or not, it would be polite to ask for permission first - and also acknowledge the photographer if you do use them - please.

In recent times, one of mine has been used on a race programme cover (without permission) and at least one I have found as someone's Facebook profile.

It takes a lot of time and effort (just ask Steve!) to scan and edit so that pics are at least worth looking at, particularly from older negatives and slides.
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Yep, well said Ray. I think once photos are placed on the internet you really have no control over them anymore, they're there for everyone to be enjoyed. But I think its just a respectful thing to at least credit the owner if they're being shared elsewhere. Lately I've been putting The Roaring Seasons web name watermark at the bottom of each photo I post on here so photos can be traced back, and the owner recognised.
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1986 Whenuapai - Oh how we miss those meetings...

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July 1967 - Shelsey Walsh Hillclimb

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Wridgeway Horton - a regular locally

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Note the registration number of this E type... 86 PJ

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E Type Egal - 7 litre power I seem to recall

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Rod Grimwood wrote:Must admit the "Billy Bigtime" with my name would be better as "Enthusiast" or "Part Time"
welcome back Gerald.


Love that Skoda, what a beast, nice shot of the Skyline at Puke, think if you visit John Windleburn at North Shore Automatic's you may see it parked in young Shanes corner.


Got both Skylines still there Drifty.......In Frazers Corner! Regards, TR
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Ah, Whenuapai.........the trouble with airfield circuits is because of the wide open spaces, drivers tended to explore the handling limits of their cars........to the limit!!!!!!

I remember at that meeting, Paul Leuch in his Aston Martin converting some carefully placed hay bales into an abstract haystack......with a little bit of damage to the Aston.

The Amco Mini looks a bit bare without its signwriting.
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Would the sliding Jag in #270 be big Mike Westall?
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Right colour.......bonnet louvers.....and looks like Mike behind the wheel. The car was usually shod with Minilites so don't know why it has these steel wheels on.
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seaqnmac27 wrote:And how about this Morris Marina? Does it still exist? Run?

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Graham Park I think it was, its mentioned in the Lost Cars thread, ran with tinted windows and I think from memory on that thread it was burnt out at Baypark?[/QUOTE]

Yep Parksy sold it to John Coulton.It did have tinted windows...the car caught fire at Baypark..Graham got out ok and damage was super ficial............because no one could see the fire through the windows MANZ passed a directive that all cars will tinted glass (mine included) were to have them replaced with clears.....This was a very well engineered car that had in board suspension and mid mounted P76 turbo charged V8 in it....talking to George Biscuit last week and Graham has purchased the car back and looks like restoring it back to how it was.......Thanks for great photos.....regards, Tony Rutherford.
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