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Re: Old Speedway Photos
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 10:18 pm
by Steve Holmes
OK Stockcar anoraks, can anyone ID these drivers?
Thanks to Steve Elliott for supplying these pics
Re: Old Speedway Photos
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 10:22 pm
by Steve Holmes
Midgets. Stunning images!
Thanks to Steve Elliott
Re: Old Speedway Photos
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 10:25 pm
by Steve Holmes
These are amazing! Can someone tell me where this is? Is it a bicycle track? My knowledge on early speedway is extremely limited.
Thanks to Steve Elliott
Re: Old Speedway Photos
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 10:44 pm
by khyndart in CA
Steve, That is Western Springs back in the early days. I watched Bruce McLaren be the starter for a race back in 1959 (He waved the flag )and he tested one of his Coopers here before the 1964 Tasman races.
http://www.bruce-mclaren.com/bruce-mclaren-trust/newsletter/Vol%2022%20Oct%202003%20BMT.pdf(Ken Hyndman )
Re: Old Speedway Photos
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 10:55 pm
by fullnoise68
That`s Western Springs late `40s / early `50s. Gary Running - Dennis` brother - gave me a bunch of old midget photos a while back and I thought some people on here would enjoy seeing them ....
Re: Old Speedway Photos
Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 11:30 pm
by Steve Holmes
Great stuff guys, thanks
Re: Old Speedway Photos
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 3:35 am
by Rod Grimwood
Look at the 'Safety' fence. The bike track was great, Remember years later watching Pentti Arikkila in Chevette go all the way around sideways for about 4 laps with back of car about 3ft from top and fence. Back in 70s midgets used to hang arse right up on banking (the brave few) Butterworth, Shaw, Tracey, Tripp, Kenyon loved it. Was also a easy lay down for the mad bike boys when things went wrong (often)
#253 the bottom photo bloke 2nd from left looks very much like Paul Fahey, interesting to check.
Re: Old Speedway Photos
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 7:40 am
by fullnoise68
That`s your mate Peter Botma in No 44 stockcar on its side Rod.....
Re: Old Speedway Photos
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 9:49 am
by TonyG
fullnoise68 wrote:That`s your mate Peter Botma in No 44 stockcar on its side Rod.....
Looks like Ray Chatfield stuck under him.
Next photo I am not sure on spinning car but #22 is Anthony "Dutchie" Wijdeven from Pukekohe.
Re: Old Speedway Photos
Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2015 7:37 pm
by fullnoise68
That`s me in #76 Tony, it was the ex Bruce Harris/ Ray Chatfield car. Both the top photos were from a `probables/possibles' Auckland teams race. Peter Botma was a flag racer, so I needed to `educate ' him. He hurt his wrist so they got him out of the car ....... Dutchie, who runs Brian Roberts Towing in Pukekohe - which I have on my HMC Camaro - is spinning Gary Eaton. This would have been approx. `85/`86. I damaged two vertabraes in my back in this car during an Auckland vs Gisborne teams race, so I sold it and built the Escort with the Chev in it for Sports Sedans.
The other stockcar photo is Graham Mitchell #10 and Tony Neal #100, both Pall Mall Team members and both cars built by our then next door neighbour in his garage, the late Eddie Sutherland.
Re: Old Speedway Photos
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 2:40 am
by Rod Grimwood
Last I heard Botma was back down Waiuku way. He's a hard case bugger. When he was up here he had a bloody big Ducati only one in country in those days, and a helicopter. Pretty good engineer.
Re: Old Speedway Photos
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 8:15 pm
by TonyG
fullnoise68 wrote:That`s me in #76 Tony, it was the ex Bruce Harris/ Ray Chatfield car. Both the top photos were from a `probables/possibles' Auckland teams race. Peter Botma was a flag racer, so I needed to `educate ' him. He hurt his wrist so they got him out of the car ....... Dutchie, who runs Brian Roberts Towing in Pukekohe - which I have on my HMC Camaro - is spinning Gary Eaton. This would have been approx. `85/`86. I damaged two vertabraes in my back in this car during an Auckland vs Gisborne teams race, so I sold it and built the Escort with the Chev in it for Sports Sedans.
The other stockcar photo is Graham Mitchell #10 and Tony Neal #100, both Pall Mall Team members and both cars built by our then next door neighbour in his garage, the late Eddie Sutherland.
Cool. So right car, wrong driver at time lol. So you bought this car -
Haven't seen Dutchie since I left NZ. he has been at Brian Roberts since he left school. I think it has been his only job.
You would know this bloke well then Steve - had a lot of laughs with him!
Dutchie in Red/White hat in back ground

Re: Old Speedway Photos
Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2015 9:18 pm
by fullnoise68
Yeah Tony, that's when Ray Chatfield had it prior to me buying it. I`ve known Dutchie for many years and since buying that business in the late `90s he has built it into a multi truck successful operation. The Waikaraka Park pits look a lot different now compared to when you took these photos .....
Re: Old Speedway Photos
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:09 pm
by Steve Holmes
Thanks again to Steve Elliott for these amazing images:
Re: Old Speedway Photos
Posted: Tue Mar 31, 2015 11:10 pm
by Steve Holmes
Re: Old Speedway Photos
Posted: Mon May 18, 2015 7:16 am
by Roger Dowding
A photo I have just posted on a new Thread, seems to fit here too !!.
The car was raced by Jack Boot at a cinder track in Huntly in the 1940's It apparently handled very badly, and only did one or two meetings. Photo from Eddie Dowding's collection which I now have some of.
Re: Old Speedway Photos
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:38 am
by Steve Holmes
Time to kick this awesome thread back into life once more. First up is a great shot of Australian Peter Crick's Monaro, when it visited New Zealand.
Re: Old Speedway Photos
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:39 am
by Steve Holmes
American driver Gene Welch, and his incredible 2nd gen Camaro, which was really a Sprintcar with shortened Camaro body draped over the top.
Re: Old Speedway Photos
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:42 am
by John McKechnie
steve- June 1970 Hot Rod mag also has a pic of him in action, I will scan and post it here.
At least you and I know its a Monaro, unlike the writer of the article
Re: Old Speedway Photos
Posted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:44 am
by Steve Holmes
Thanks John, and yes, not sure how they came to the conclusion Crocks Monaro was a Kingswood!