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According to the records compiled by Kelvin and I it was built by Arthur Harris and then to Peter Hill.
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Maybe some of you know this lovely car.
Buckler 90/8 for sale in the UK.

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Remi, that car was last owned in NZ by Steve Day, first NZ owner/builder Arthur Harris.
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Oldfart wrote:Remi, that car was last owned in NZ by Steve Day, first NZ owner/builder Arthur Harris.


Car looks great, modernised but brilliant, Thanks Remi and Rhys for the post and details.
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Chassis 90/8.First owner Kerwyn Taylor who built it on UK chassis 1956-58 with de Joux mk. 1 body. Raced at Teretonga and Dunedin. Subsequent owners Trevor Dunning, Gordon Pringle, Graeme Currie, Ken White, Bruce Sutcliffe, Dewar Thomas (who restored the car), Garry Price, Dallas Crampton, and Steve Day.
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Buckler 90/8 !

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Autopia wrote:Chassis 90/8.First owner Kerwyn Taylor who built it on UK chassis 1956-58 with de Joux mk. 1 body. Raced at Teretonga and Dunedin. Subsequent owners Trevor Dunning, Gordon Pringle, Graeme Currie, Ken White, Bruce Sutcliffe, Dewar Thomas (who restored the car), Garry Price, Dallas Crampton, and Steve Day.


This car - in recent times
Bucklers in NZ #476 at Leadfoot NZ Photog not stated (800x416) (2).jpg


Here with Dallas Crampton at Ngawhini Hill Climb. Date not stated

Bucklers in NZ #38 Ngawhini Hillclimb Dallas Crampton - starting D Montgomery .jpg


A article - from an event at Ngawhini -

Bucklers in NZ #37 Ngawhini Hillclimb Dallas Crampton - article.jpg
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Buckler 90/1 formerly in NZ now in Holland a bit more info.

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Roger Dowding wrote:Photo from Steve Sharp archives - at Pukekohe . comment on the photo
" Young Bruce Sutcliffe tending to his baby.**
Bart Jonkers may have already seen this one. "

According to notes I have Bruce owned it ** his baby in the 1970's -1975-ish ..

Bruce Sutcliffe well known in Buckler Circles [ owned a few ] and Bart Jonkers now owns this Car - which is in Holland.
The creator of this thread will know more than I do.

The year - not known - looking at the shorts early 1980's - I had those too !! Not a good look !
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Just found out this - the Registration number is still on Carjam ..

" Year: 1955
Make: BUCKLER
Model: 90
Colour: Green
Second Colour: Yellow
Body Style: Sports Car
VIN: 7A81X000701901955
Plate: KA6377
Engine No: 4945
Chassis: BK901955
Vehicle Type: Passenger Car/Van
Seats: 2
CC rating: 1,172cc "

Previous plate noted too

" Plates History

Plate Effective Date
Current Plate? Get CarJam Report
KA6377 19-Sep-2011
AAH494 06-Apr-2001 "

and before that BL 4993
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Wally Bower in the Buckler Mk.6/2 car - a bit of history.

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Wally Bower in Buckler 6/2 in the early 1970's at Pukekohe - photo by Kevin Lancaster.

Bucklers in NZ #116 Pukekohe 1970's Wally Bower Kevin Lancaster.jpg


Entry List from Milan Fistonic for a 1970 meeting.
Milan wrote " This could be the race shown above. It was held on March 8, 1970 at Pukekohe. "
I was probably there too !! - but no photos of the car !

Bucklers in NZ #117 Wally Bower Mk6 -2 entry list 1970 Milan Fistonic.jpg


Kelvin Brown writes ;
" Good to see that photo of Wally Bower in the Buckler Mk.6/2 car, by then the original Arnott blower and 100E had been removed and replaced with a Cortina engine of 1340 cc. ?, was repainted yellow. "

Photo from " Geebeez " the car in Yellow.

Bucklers in NZ #109 Wally Bower Mk6 -2 NZs 2nd Buckler became Blue Brick G Banks  (640x640) (2).jpg


Graeme Banks " Geebeez " also wrote
" Yes that was NZs second Buckler probably in its final form before being almost destroyed in a road accident and reincarnated as the Blue Brick. "

Here in a Ray Green " ERC " photo is the Blue Brick along with the now Bart Jonkers car Buckler 90/8 KA6377 Yellow over Green and behind is the Ivy Stephenson / Bruce Sutcliffe Blue over White 90 - they both have De Joux bodies.
Photo from around 1985-86 I believe at Pukekohe in the old Paddock area by the Tote building

Bucklers in NZ #119 Pukekohe Blue Brick ex Wally Bower #105 KA 6377 #90 Ivy's car behind 1985-86.jpg


Would appreciate any corrections / comments to pass on to Kevin Lancaster - who in retirement n the Coromandel is now posting many of his 100's or 1000's of photos.

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All seems correct to me, except I note from the entry list that the Bowers car has capacity as 1250 cc
Yes that's the paddock at Pukekohe, and what looks like the tail of another de Joux body just almost out of shot. The door opening looks a bit more like Mistral than de Joux though.
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Just come across your mention in last year's Classic & Sports car Rhys! Didn't realise the Alan Staniforth connection - or maybe I just missed it.

I'm a year behind, as the cruising habit since 2011 has meant the pile of magazines kept growing whilst we were away - every year. Cut back from 5 a month to 3, but still not exactly gaining, though having this year's travel cancelled may make a difference.

Referring back to the 1985/86 photo at Pukekohe, note the crowd was pretty good. How times have changed.
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Sad to say, but the person most responsible for the marque being a known thing, Bruce Sutcliffe passed away this last weekend.
Without Bruce very few would know what the cars were, or meant in the NZ racing scene.
RIP Mr Buckler NZ.
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Oldfart wrote:Sad to say, but the person most responsible for the marque being a known thing, Bruce Sutcliffe passed away this last weekend.
Without Bruce very few would know what the cars were, or meant in the NZ racing scene.
RIP Mr Buckler NZ.


Thanks, Rhys, had just read it on a post by Kelvin Brown.
Bruce's contribution to the marque was huge.

Kelvin posted this photo of team Buckler after the 1982 Perrier Le Mans relay race at Pukekohe.
Bruce Sutcliffe left, Center Q, right Ian Hallett, and another Gent.
Bucklers in NZ #91 B Bruce Sutcliffe, David Childs, Ian Hallet, Grant Bowring. Perrier LeMans Pu.jpg


Bruce in one of his cars .. leave it Oldfart to say which one

Bucklers in NZ #110 B Bruce Sutcliffe in DD2 undated Kelvin Brown  (640x398) (2).jpg


Bruce in the ex Ivy Stephenson car -1982 Ross Cammick photo

Bucklers in NZ #106 B Bruce Sutcliffe Pukekohe 1982 Ross Cammick  (640x416) (2).jpg
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Bucklers in NZ - NZ Classic Driver story

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A Special Edition of New Zealand Classic Driver - entitled " ROAD, RACE & RALLY " was published in late 2021.
Six bucklers were gathered together for the article;
Peter Benbrook, 1950 Buckler MKVI. NZ Registration PL7307
Graeme Brayshaw, 1954 Buckler MKVI. NZ Registration 1964 BD7989
Mark Garmey. 1957 Buckler 90. NZ Registration GHH417 Reg 30 April 2012 **
Grant Bowring, 1957 Buckler DD2 (UK) 90. NZ Registration PL8061 Reg 31 October 1990.
Craig Laing, 1958 Buckler DD2,. NZ Registration IP3842
Roger Munns, 1959 Buckler 90. NZ Registration 1964 CY2945

** The Mark Garmey car has had several plates in New Zealand 352,325 - pre 1964, AI6477 issued in 1964 and DJ5264 was on the car in 1975 but plate issued around 1965.
The first two pages of the article
Bucklers in NZ #244 sml NZ Classic Driver magazine Special Edition Dec 2021 Bucklers in NZ (640x.jpg
A couple of photos taken at the time.
Bucklers in NZ #247 sml Buckler gathering for NZ Classic Driver mag #1 in Specia Edition Dec 202.jpg
Bucklers in NZ #249 sml Buckler gathering for NZ Classic Driver mag #2 In Special Edition Dec 20.jpg
The Mark Garmey car was owned by the creator of this thread on TRS, back in 1970.
Recently photos of the car under an earlier owner have been appearing on Old New Zealand Motor Racing, Facebook page posted by the owner at the time Peter Preston.

A few Bucklers in New Zealand, have gone overseas, so it is good to know these ones are still here and being used as intended with some Motorsport.
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Buckler with Ian Hallet in 1982. the TACCOC sprints/races.

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2013
Roger Dowding wrote:Interesting stuff, thanks BMC BOY for the photos, question, who is in the Car - dark body white stripe and Roundel for the race number, the Gent has a beard, from a 1982 TACCOC sprint, ??, From memory he was quite an authority on Bucklers like Bruce Sutcliffe, and a member of the Waitemata branch of the Vintage Car Club, that ran Chelsea and other sprints / hillclimbs. ( Lyle Chambers, who had a 1930's BSA front wheel drive [ 4 wheel ] special - with a side valve Ford 10 engine in place of the four cylinder BSA, new him well. the said BSA was run at a Pukekohe sprint with owner Lyle driving and myself been given time to do a few laps too The BSA could hit about 80 mph on the back straight at Pukekohe [ pre-chicanes ] ). Also remember the Glendene Sprints, [ as pictured earlier ] where the Bucklers were and Peter Bruin's, beautiful Lotus 11 sports [ where is that car now ??].
Just going back over this thread - back to 2013 - as have recently seen a few photos by Peter Preston when he owned the Buckler that is now with Mark Garmey, and a previous custodian was " Oldfart " - Rhys Nolan.

To answer my own question ? above.

The Gentleman in the Dark Car with White Stripe TACCOC 1982 by Ross Cammick - is that Ian Hallet ?, who I have seen in a photo with Bruce Sutcliffe and another Buckler Driver, when they won the Team Prize at a Perrier Le Mans Relay Race at Pukekohe in 1982.
The photo, in Post #267, has Bruce Sutcliffe -left, Gentleman with a beard Q centre, and Ian Hallett also with a beard. SSharp noted in 2013 that the Gent in question was quote " That's David Childs. ".
I am now trying to recall what colour Ian Hallets car was. Think it may have been one colour
Now to find the photos, again.
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Peter Preston - Buckler 90 - 3 1961 - 62

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Peter Preston in Buckler 90-3.
Photos from Peters own archives.

One taking a spin, at Renwick in 1962.

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The other stated to be Teretonga - helmet seems different but car has same 1961 - 64 number plate.

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Peter was a successful racer as seen in the article [ advert ] from Motorman that Milan Fistonic has Posted -well back in this thread.

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Posted before other photos of the car around the same time early 1960's.

Teretonga again. next to a Healey
Bucklers in NZ #272 Teretonga Peter Preston Buckler #32 759.025 1961 - 64 plate w Healey  Mistra.jpg
On track
Bucklers in NZ #273 Teretonga Peter Preston Race #1 Plate 759.025 1961 - 64 plate #2, - early 60.jpg
The car has a distinctive bonnet scoop and the stripes, which Mark Garmey has recreated on the car in its current state.

Sometimes all photos are there, the next time not !!
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The bonnet scoop went when the overhead valve 1470 cc engine was fitted. The mesh stone guards on the lights were on it when I had it, they came in a box of spares.
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Oldfart wrote:The bonnet scoop went when the overhead valve 1470 cc engine was fitted. The mesh stone guards on the lights were on it when I had it, they came in a box of spares.
Thanks OF, RN,
Another photo from Peter Preston - his first meeting after he bought the car from Barry Cottle - Wigram 1961 ?-trying to read the number plate and see the ' colours " used - White on Deep Red, 1956 -61 or Black on Yellow 1961 - 64..
Looks like the 1961 - 64 plates - the last of the " Old " style Black on Yellow
Bucklers in NZ #268 Peter Preston 1st Race Buckler 90;03 purchased from Barry Cottle Wigram 759..jpg
Ignore the " Renwick " note - forgot to Edit the photo name. Peter stated it was Wigram. Not sure how many times a year they used the Air Force Base - the Lady Wigram Trophy Race was during the " season " January - March,when the Overseas Drivers visited - the off season for Grand Prix and major Sports Car races in UK and Europe.

The plates ;
NZ Number plates #961 1956 - 61 White Dark Red asterisk crop R Armstrong.jpg
As on the car :
NZ Number plates #966 1961 - 66 Black Yellow dot last issue crop R Armstrong.jpg
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I'd doubt if that's 61 at Wigram. No rain. It was wet Friday practise and Saturday race day.
It was only late 70's that the track got used more than once a year. University CC and a couple of others managed to talk their way onto it - but no spectator admission. Club members only.
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GregT wrote:I'd doubt if that's 61 at Wigram. No rain. It was wet Friday practise and Saturday race day.
It was only late 70's that the track got used more than once a year. University CC and a couple of others managed to talk their way onto it - but no spectator admission. Club members only.
Thanks GregT, I was picking 1962 by the number plate,
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Peter Preston's Buckler was number 1 at Wigram in 1962 and 1963.
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