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Re: Formula Atlantic/Pacific
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 8:37 am
by richard lester
frd1 wrote:Thanks for clearing that one up Richard, got my club days messed up! Was thinking when I went around to Graham's workshop, Phil Moore was there working on that tub starting to put it together. I think Bryan freshened the engine and finished putting it together in his garage at home. Are you driving a white Commodore these days?
nope,got an X5 and live in Pukekohe....
Re: Formula Atlantic/Pacific
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:22 am
by rogered
richard lester wrote:yep thats close,my recollection is the car was built from bits and spares for tony george to drive and then Bryan took it over..i think he helped put it together and was involved with the engine......
That is actually my sister debbie in the Tul...my brother in law john evans drove it in a clubmans later on....Even Murf drove the Tul one clubmans when he was working for me ...he shunted one of my Van diemen rf91's in practice and jumped in the tul and still finished top 3...
i see bryan and his kid share the same hairdresser
Re: Formula Atlantic/Pacific
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:33 am
by Rod Grimwood
One calls her mum and the other the missus.
Re: Formula Atlantic/Pacific
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 11:11 am
by Grant Ellwood
When Graham was running David Brabham the other driver was Mike Thackwell I think.
Re: Formula Atlantic/Pacific
Posted: Tue Aug 07, 2012 6:42 pm
by richard lester
Grant Ellwood wrote:When Graham was running David Brabham the other driver was Mike Thackwell I think.
Hi Grant,hope alls good with you...pretty sure at that time other watson driver was parker johnstone from US...i was in my ex Bowe 81 RT4 and i ended up buying the David brabham 86 RT4 at season end......
Re: Formula Atlantic/Pacific
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:54 am
by Grant Ellwood
richard lester wrote:Hi Grant,hope alls good with you...pretty sure at that time other watson driver was parker johnstone from US...i was in my ex Bowe 81 RT4 and i ended up buying the David brabham 86 RT4 at season end......
Hi Rich, all going well up here in the backwoods of Virginia (apart from the snakes and ticks). I must have gotten the year wrong re Brabham's team-mate but I recall him partnered with Mike Thackwell at a Bay Park round. I was just looking at a photo I shot of them wearing Oz-themed yellow and green Flamecrushers we made in Tauranga. There was a great article about Mike Thackwell in a recent issue of Motorsport (UK).
Re: Formula Atlantic/Pacific
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 6:46 pm
by TonyG
Re: Formula Atlantic/Pacific
Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 11:02 pm
by seaqnmac27
Yep thats them, remember seeing them race at Manfield beginning of '87
Re: Formula Atlantic/Pacific
Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 4:06 am
by Les Laidlaw
I was looking after Davids car & Brett Lupton was on Thackwell's car.
These were new 87 model cars, David crashed his at Bay Park and reverted to the spare 86 model..........he liked the 86 car better
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Re: Formula Atlantic/Pacific
Posted: Mon Aug 13, 2012 1:14 am
by seaqnmac27
Does anyone have any video footage of any of the pacific races from 77-84 in particular?
Re: Formula Atlantic/Pacific
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 4:38 am
by ffdave
Did Andrea de Cesaris race in New Zealand in 1979 in a 782 or 78B March? I could not find any mention of him in the oldracingcars.com results in 1979 but have seen photos of him in a March 782 or 78B at Pukekohe and Manfeild. In 1980 he was in a March 792.
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Re: Formula Atlantic/Pacific
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:30 am
by seaqnmac27
ffdave wrote:Did Andrea de Cesaris race in New Zealand in 1979 in a 782 or 78B March? I could not find any mention of him in the oldracingcars.com results in 1979 but have seen photos of him in a March 782 or 78B at Pukekohe and Manfeild. In 1980 he was in a March 792.
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This seems to be a setup used at Pukekohe, unfortunately, I do not even remember this season so, I can't answer fully, but this is what I have always remembered De Cesaris' March to look like from every other image I have seen of this car, these are borrowed from page 1 of this thread, from this series and both with and without nosecone, as became a little familiar, given Andrea's eventual nick name.
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Re: Formula Atlantic/Pacific
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:31 am
by Michael Clark
The owner of the pale blue crash hat is Eje Elgh - he was here in Jan 79. Thackwell and de Cesaris were here in 1980 with 792s.
Re: Formula Atlantic/Pacific
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:31 am
by ffdave
seaqnmac27 wrote:This seems to be a setup used at Pukekohe, unfortunately, I do not even remember this season so, I can't answer fully, but this is what I have always remembered De Cesaris' March to look like from every other image I have seen of this car, these are borrowed from page 1 of this thread, from this series and both with and without nosecone, as became a little familiar, given Andrea's eventual nick name.
The crashed car was 792-23 which he crashed before Pukekohe 1980 and he used 792-19 at the first round at Puke. The other photo of the two 792's were their 1980 cars, 792-19 and 792-32 for Thackwell. So i'm still lost as to when the photos of De Cesaris in a 782/78B March at Pukekohe and Manfeild are from......
Re: Formula Atlantic/Pacific
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 8:54 am
by Michael Clark
Dave, are you sure it is de Crash? He and Fabi had identical colours on their helmets.
Only Fabi and Kenny ever drove the 782/B as I recall.
Re: Formula Atlantic/Pacific
Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2013 7:04 pm
by ffdave
Michael Clark wrote:Dave, are you sure it is de Crash? He and Fabi had identical colours on their helmets.
Only Fabi and Kenny ever drove the 782/B as I recall.
Mystery solved. It is Eje Elgh. He drove a Marlboro March 782 in NZ the year before De Cesaris and Thackwell ran the 792. He ran the same number #2 as De Cesaris and the same livery which led to the confusion. There were other 782/78B's in 79 also. Jeff Woods (USA) ran a 78B.
Re: Formula Atlantic/Pacific
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:12 am
by paul lancaster
Ouch, what happened to the driver?
Re: Formula Atlantic/Pacific
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:27 am
by seaqnmac27
Went onto a long and relatively unsuccessful F1 career thanks to his fathers Marlboro links. Not a bad driver when all things considered. The Alfas of 1982/83 could have been a lot better and in 82 he could have won both Long Beach and Monaco, well no, he would probably still have run out of petrol.
Re: Formula Atlantic/Pacific
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:29 am
by paul lancaster
Correct, I was at sreves the other day, he has the ex hiro matsushita swift which ran panasonic sponsorship, which sreve is going to reliver the car in, he also has the ex tom donovan, dave morrison typhoon, and damon hills first wings and slicks car, an ff2000 argo, among various ffs.
Re: Formula Atlantic/Pacific
Posted: Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:30 am
by seaqnmac27
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Ya know, I had completely forgotten Eje Elgh came to NZ, and I suspect, these are the only pictures of him racing in NZ that I have ever seen.