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Re: Photos: The Rhys Nolan Collection

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 6:17 am
by Kenz
Terry S wrote:Agreed. At 66NZGP Hill had #2 and Stewart had #6. So if anyone can read the number it would help. Beyond my poor eyes.....


Just enlarged this one; it's definitely #2. Driver's head attitude looks mighty like Graham Hill's, but too blurred to make out the London Rowing Club markings.
So, whose car was #1, the first photo in post #1? Was it a spare, or later renumbered as #2 or #6 for the race?
The 10c Tote windows behind the car identify the meeting as being the NZGP.

Re: Photos: The Rhys Nolan Collection

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 7:13 am
by Milan Fistonic
Jim Clark's Lotus was number 1 in 1966.

BRM only had two cars here so the car shown with the number 1 must have arrived with that number and been photographed before the correct number was applied.

Re: Photos: The Rhys Nolan Collection

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 7:19 am
by Oldfart
Kenz wrote:Just enlarged this one; it's definitely #2. Driver's head attitude looks mighty like Graham Hill's, but too blurred to make out the London Rowing Club markings.
So, whose car was #1, the first photo in post #1? Was it a spare, or later renumbered as #2 or #6 for the race?
The 10c Tote windows behind the car identify the meeting as being the NZGP.

As I only went to a few meetings, by train from Matamata as a teenager of course what I wrote was the correct meeting. Regards Attwood, how would I have invented that? It's a long time back, but posing a question, are these folks totally confident he wasn't present for the practice sessions when many of these were taken?

Re: Photos: The Rhys Nolan Collection

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 7:47 am
by Milan Fistonic
Attwood used a white helmet as shown in this scan from Motorman.

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Re: Photos: The Rhys Nolan Collection

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 8:42 am
by Kenz
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And this from the Wigram grid that year; again the white/dark stripe helmet. Note his race # this time - 1, and. So this ties in nicely with the NZGP meeting photo in front of the racecourse tote windows, of the #1 car.
Rhys - Not disputing the venue, nor saying he wasn't there at Puk, as he ran the rest of the NZ legs (but none in Oz), but there's no mention of him practising officially, though of course he could have been out testing in the #1 numbered car, as his Levin (1st) & Wigram (2nd) results show he had his act pretty well sorted down under.
So, was there three cars (#'s 1, 2 & 6 brought down under that series, or only two (with race-specific number changes)? Certainly I only ever saw 2 cars at Shell Wavell Heights in Brisbane for Lakeside, and most other sources say there was only the two, as does Milan above. Doug Nye's book may provide the answer to that one.

Re: Photos: The Rhys Nolan Collection

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 9:01 am
by Kenz
Rhys/Steve,
Forgot to mention how much I'm enjoying these photos, and Steve's period-evocative "scrapbook" presentation of them - very apt!
The other interesting thing I've noticed in the closer-up shots of the Tasman cars that the the driver's name rectangular sticker in large upper case black-on-white on the flanks doesn't appear on any of them (including Levin); it was only when I dug up the photo of Attwood at Wigram I posted that one appeared.
Looking at the Australian rounds, the practice had, by then, caught on universally. Does anyone here know if this was a relaxation of a previous rule, or was it just a good idea that spread very quickly?

Re: Photos: The Rhys Nolan Collection

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 10:47 am
by Milan Fistonic
OK. This is the definitive story from Doug Nye's BRM Vol 3.

Three cars came to NZ in 1966. Two centre-exhaust models 2616 for Hill and 2617 for Stewart. A side-exhaust model 2614 was a spare.

Stewart's car was delayed due to shipping problems so he used 2614 fitted with the windscreen, steering wheel, seat and pedals retrieved from the ship-bound 2617.

At Levin Stewart used 2617 and Attwood was in 2614.

Stewart decided to try Attwood's 2614 at Wigram and liked it so much he used it in the race. Attwood raced 2617.

At Teretonga both used the cars they raced at Wigram.

Stewart was number 6 at every meeting and Hill at the GP and Attwood at the other events carried number 2.

Re: Photos: The Rhys Nolan Collection

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2016 12:00 pm
by Kenz
Thanks, Milan - that's cleared it up nicely.
Was interested in Doug's info re Attwood carrying #2 and how that tied with Attwood #1 car on the Wigram grid photo I posted, but a closer look revealed that the pic is from 1967, as Clark's Lotus is using the stretched Climax V8.

Re: Photos: The Rhys Nolan Collection

Posted: Fri Aug 26, 2016 3:30 am
by Oldfart
Here are a few more recent ones, just to mess things a bit. Whoops, all my files are too big, and I'm too busy to resize.

Re: Photos: The Rhys Nolan Collection

Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2016 3:03 am
by Steve Holmes
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Re: Photos: The Rhys Nolan Collection

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 11:50 pm
by Steve Holmes
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Re: Photos: The Rhys Nolan Collection

Posted: Mon Sep 05, 2016 11:51 pm
by Steve Holmes
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Re: Photos: The Rhys Nolan Collection

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 2:59 am
by Steve Holmes
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Re: Photos: The Rhys Nolan Collection

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 6:55 am
by Roger Dowding
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Was at that meeting NZIGP 1967 but my shots were never that good..

Re: Photos: The Rhys Nolan Collection

Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2016 9:53 am
by Oldfart
Thanks for that comment Roger! That was not much more than a box Brownie, some russian version of a reflex thing. I was still in short pants :)

Re: Photos: The Rhys Nolan Collection

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 4:09 pm
by seaqnmac27
Rhys, I am just wondering whether, the #2 BRM in the pits was 67 as well, hence, Jimmy's leading you to, at a glance incorrectly label the Hill BRM #2 as Jimmy's.
67 Attwood was #1 and Stewart #2.

Re: Photos: The Rhys Nolan Collection

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 6:24 pm
by Oldfart
Sean, I "think" I put this together as time went on. If you look at post #1 it is the same photo as post #30. As Steve has the book and is doing the posting, I now wonder if they are not being posted as they appear in the book, but until I get it back I hesitate to be too definite.
You say Jimmy's BRM, I am pretty sure he was in a Lotus, as I carried some front wheels from the paddock to the pits on practice day for him.

Re: Photos: The Rhys Nolan Collection

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:06 pm
by Steve Holmes
Hi Rhys, yes this is how I'm posting them, just as they appear in your album.

Re: Photos: The Rhys Nolan Collection

Posted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 8:23 pm
by Steve Holmes
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Re: Photos: The Rhys Nolan Collection

Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2016 10:51 pm
by Rod Grimwood
Rhy's, give me a call and we will organize a little sit down and get these scanned for you for future keeping.

cheers
Grimme