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Re: Dunedin Street Races - revival meeting January 1984

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:29 pm
by Allan
Can someone please identify cars 16 and 18?

Re: Dunedin Street Races - revival meeting January 1984

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:49 pm
by Roger Dowding
Allan wrote:Can someone please identify cars 16 and 18?


Allan, #18 is a Citroen powered special, built by Doug Haig have seen it elsewhere in books
Dunedin Festival 1984 # 45 The Gee Cee Ess on the grid CCI11112015_0003 (800x541).jpg

Re: Dunedin Street Races - revival meeting January 1984

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:50 pm
by woody
#16 is C Read in the B. C. M. special. #18 is R Smith in the Citroen special.

Re: Dunedin Street Races - revival meeting January 1984

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:58 pm
by Roger Dowding
woody wrote:#16 is C Read in the B. C. M. special. #18 is R Smith in the Citroen special.


Woody you just beat with details of #18,- the Doug Haigh built Citroen Special and it was owned and raced by Ralph Smith, who has the Lycoming, the Citroen was made from a Light 15 with the Motor/ gearbox final drive turned back to front for the rear wheel drive, which is quite normal for racing cars these days. Interestingly an early photo in Graham Vercoe's book it has #18 on it - so a permanent number from the 1950's

Re: Dunedin Street Races - revival meeting January 1984

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 12:21 am
by rf84
Pity about Vercoe's "Historic Racing Cars" book-it was riddled with inaccuracies. They started before you even opened the book-the dust jacket shows (amongst other cars) a blue Lola T70 which is labelled a Lola T1!
To make matters worse many knowledgeable people such as Max Fisher and David McKinney went to great lengths to correct the errors but, alas, they wasted their time and energy. When the second edition was published it was word for word the same as the first edition.
As "Oldfart" says, the info it contains needs to be looked at very critically.

Dunedin '84 the single seaters my final photos. Capella Ferrari BCM and others

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 3:55 am
by Roger Dowding
The field
Dunedin Festival 1984 #46 single seater field #2, v2, CCI12112015 (2) (800x572).jpg


The Capella
Dunedin Festival 1984 #47 Capella CCI12112015_0001 (800x550).jpg

Capella close up
Dunedin Festival 1984 #47 Capella v2, CCI12112015_0001 (2).jpg


The field racing
Dunedin Festival 1984 #48 Single seater field racing v2, CCI12112015_0002 (2) (800x602).jpg


Ferrari and Stanton Cropduster
Dunedin Festival 1984 # 49 Ferrari & Stanton Cropduster v2, CCI12112015_0003 (2) (800x577).jpg


Ferrari BCM and GCS
Dunedin Festival 1984 #50 Ferrari BCM GCS & others v2, CCI12112015_0004 (2) (800x578).jpg

Dunedin - finally - the last photo - full view and a couple of engines.

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:02 am
by Roger Dowding
Dunedin Festival 1984 #50 Ferrari BCM GCS & others CCI12112015_0004 (800x543).jpg


and as I like Riley's the Ransley Riley Engine

Engines ; # 1, Riley 1984 Dunedin Street races CCI31082015 (2) (800x526).jpg


and that upside down engine again
Engines ; #2,  Lycoming 1984 Duendin Street Races CCI31082015 (3) (800x538).jpg


That is it the whole 50 or so photo's
and thanks for the information to identify the cars

Re: Dunedin Street Races - revival meeting January 1984

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 4:13 am
by John H
Hi Roger re the G C S. As a 10-11 year old we went to Murewai beach racing about 1956-57. We walked up the beach to see the racing. The cars were all just sitting around and I touched the tyre on this car. I guess it was George Smith who told me not to do that as the sand would get into the engine. Sadly no racing took place as the tide or something was not right. Very disappointing but amazing to think perhaps Bruce McLaren and others could have been there. :) Chrs ...

Dunedin ; more photos to follow

Posted: Mon Nov 23, 2015 11:34 pm
by Roger Dowding
GD66 wrote:Cover courtesy of Steve Nesbitt :cool:
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Found another dozen photos including some of the straight sprints and a few of the cars in the pit area

Dunedin 84 the sprints

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 5:52 am
by Roger Dowding
Dunedin festival 1984 cover from Steve Nesbitt GD66.jpg


A view of the city - peaceful for the moment and a lonely Mini in the carpark.
Dunedin Festival 1984 #51 the City and a Mini CCI24112015 (800x547).jpg


from the Sprints on the Saturday - organised by the Otago Sports Car Club
Dunedin Festival 1984 #52 Torana - sprints CCI24112015_0001 (800x545).jpg


Dunedin Festival 1984 # 53 Falcon - sprints CCI24112015_0002 (800x534).jpg


Dunedin Festival 1984 #54 The sprints - gone .. CCI24112015_0003 (800x526).jpg


Huge crowd and not much safety as was in the time and earlier, much like the 1960's 70's

Re: Dunedin Street Races - revival meeting January 1984

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:01 am
by Oldfart
Roger Dowding wrote:[ATTACH=CONFIG]31814[/ATTACH]



Huge crowd and not much safety as was in the time and earlier, much like the 1960's 70's

And as it could be/should be if we were not living in a nanny state, when people actually had enough sense to be self preserving.

Dunedin In the Pit area - some unusual cars and engines.

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:37 am
by Roger Dowding
Cooper Vincent
the car known as "Jilly " and raced at one time by Dave "Jaguar " Silcock
Dunedin Festival 1984 #55 Cooper Vincent  CCI24112015 (800x541).jpg


the Vincent engine end.
Dunedin Festival 1984 #56 Vincent end of the Cooper CCI24112015_0001 (548x800).jpg


A Sports Special ** which we now know is Furi 2, built by Jim Bennett with help from his brother Cliff [ bodywork ] and Ivan - engineering.
Dunedin Festival 1984 #57  Special Sports - Jag powered !! CCI24112015_0002 (800x536).jpg


(Think this is ) the engine from the special - It is using the Roots type twin vane Commer TS3 Truck supercharger.
Supercharged Jaguar
Dunedin Festival 1984 #58 Jag with Supercharger - the Special !! CCI24112015_0003 (800x539).jpg


any comment appreciated, maybe from the programme Steve Nisbet !!

Dunedin - finally - the last photos - old specials and new car

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:45 am
by Roger Dowding
New-ish
Dunedin Festival 1984 #62 Ford Capri CCI24112015_0007 (800x547).jpg


Oldish the B C M Special
Dunedin Festival 1984 #59 The B C M CCI24112015_0004 (800x547).jpg

the engine
Dunedin Festival 1984 #60 B C M the engine CCI24112015_0005 (800x543).jpg


Older - and a Favourite. the Stanton Special
Dunedin Festival 1984 #61 Stanton Cropduster CCI24112015_0006 (800x541).jpg


I think that will be all from the 1984 Dunedin races, unless you guys have some to add.
Please do, and enjoy these.

Re: Dunedin Street Races - revival meeting January 1984

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 1:37 am
by Rascal
Very good presentation Roger, many thanks.
We competed much later when the races were revived and ran clockwise & used the motorway over to 'THE GLEN" then up to and over Cemetary Hill & back around the "OVAL" Pic attached , maybe someone can do a spread on those later years, that have now also, Sadly gone forever it seems.
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Great shot of a later Street races, thanks " Rascal "

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:06 am
by Roger Dowding
Rascal wrote:Very good presentation Roger, many thanks.
We competed much later when the races were revived and ran clockwise & used the motorway over to 'THE GLEN" then up to and over Cemetary Hill & back around the "OVAL" Pic attached , maybe someone can do a spread on those later years, that have now also, Sadly gone forever it seems.[ATTACH=CONFIG]31861[/ATTACH]


Hope there are more photos out there, feel free to add them here or on a new thread.

Re : " Sadly gone forever it seems " wasn't it at Dunedin that there was a Spectator death ??, and MANZ [as it was then ] didn't support the organising club(s) and only intervened when the Clubs Officials were to be charged with the death

thanks

Roger

Re: Dunedin Street Races - revival meeting January 1984

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 5:11 am
by woody
Roger, The accident was at the Queenstown meeting.

Re: Dunedin Street Races - revival meeting January 1984

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2015 6:48 am
by Roger Dowding
woody wrote:Roger, The accident was at the Queenstown meeting.


Woody, thanks I was unsure, but do know that it had a big effect on organising street events.

Programme from the 1954 Dunedin Street Races, 30 years earlier - copy Bruce Dyer

Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2015 4:00 am
by Roger Dowding
Dunedin Programme NZRRC Dunedin 1954 Bruce Dyer v2 CCI16092015_0003 (2) (519x800).jpg


Can post details from the programme.

Otago Sports Car Club were behind the 1984 event too !!

Re: Dunedin Street Races - revival meeting January 1984

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:05 pm
by Oldfart
Can someone please give me street names for the earlier circuits ASAP?
Thanks

Re: Dunedin Street Races - revival meeting January 1984

Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2015 8:57 pm
by Roger Dowding
Oldfart wrote:Can someone please give me street names for the earlier circuits ASAP?
Thanks


Oldfart, will have a look at Scott Thomsons book and the programme above, will scan them to here, later today !!, cheers Roger
Have a quick look at post #1, as Scott's book has a couple of the maps - a bit small though !!, will try to resize for you..