What happened to all the Breadvan Anglia's?

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Grant, Gary ran the TC at Craigmore about 2-4 weeks after he got his hands on it. The car was still running its original equipment India radial tyres that looked like a Dunlop Aquajet and they were about as slippery as an eel in a bucket of snot which is why it slid so well on tarmac. I remember that at one point during the hillclimb Gary had the tyres down around the 10lb mark trying to get some grip out of the thing but with no success, it was one of those dry dusty days where nothing worked. I was like the rest of the guys with the 105E's, seat out, girlfriend out, exhaust off and lets go hillclimbing then reassembling the car and heading down to the river for a quick swim and a few beers. Cheers
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Yep beautiful Times Carl .... hey and what a river spent many yrs there & later on at the golf course with ex bro inlawJ ock etc at the bottom of the hill .... you guys must realize the beauty of the place a bit of a time warp I know ... I have a pik of Ernie going up there [ hill climb] in the old GP cars p3 alfa & 4clt maserati ...... I have sent these to Steve H .... with some others ....... when he gets the time they will get posted , a few of that special hill . etc .. thanks for sharing these times guys ... Grant
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Scale is 1/32, 105E beside is Hotwheels diecast, hopefully will give you some idea of proportion.Thinking about doing Jack Nazer's Cossack Escort.
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45DCOE wrote:[ATTACH]22805[/ATTACH]
Scale is 1/32, 105E beside is Hotwheels diecast, hopefully will give you some idea of proportion.Thinking about doing Jack Nazer's Cossack Escort.


Obviously nothing wrong with your eye site, small but that is good stuff.
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Nice one Steve, now if it was only painted turquoise ;-)
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If this works, then here's a screen shot from my video camera that includes a Breadvan Anglia that ran at the MG Classic in November. The driver is listed as Ray Hurst and the car is from 1964 with a 1760cc engine. Others on TRC can hopefully provide some more detailed information about the car.

If it all goes horribly wrong, then hey - nice weather we're having...
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Yes this is a great a shot of a friend of mine Ray Hurst in the breadvan 105e replica fastback. Originaly built I think by Chrischurch long time Osca driver John Osbourne Ray has kept it tucked for a few years getting it ready for racing again as he runs a tight budget ownig 2 cars,it was also raced by someone from deep south before him. Ray also races in the pre 65s for the at least the last 10 years or so in a white 105e.Being driver mechanic for himself makes him consistanly there rain or shine. He has such a passion for racing these cars and travels all over the south island and sometimes the north island. from your long time friend ex pat kiwi Alistair now living in Melbourne 1 year cheers :)
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I thought the original Fahey Breadvan still existed and seem to remember it being for sale a few years back. Does make some appearances? And there is a replica as well?
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Yes the Fahey car does exist, Craig Stacey has it, and uses it. Good question how there can be a replica, colour, number and all!
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Oldfart wrote:Yes the Fahey car does exist, Craig Stacey has it, and uses it. Good question how there can be a replica, colour, number and all!


This car was built along time ago, and sat for ages. Believe at time of build it was thought Faheys car was gone.

Had chat with owner at Manfield couple weeks back and there is a bit of story with it.
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camaroman slp wrote:Yes this is a great a shot of a friend of mine Ray Hurst in the breadvan 105e replica fastback. Originaly built I think by Chrischurch long time Osca driver John Osbourne Ray has kept it tucked for a few years getting it ready for racing again as he runs a tight budget ownig 2 cars,it was also raced by someone from deep south before him. Ray also races in the pre 65s for the at least the last 10 years or so in a white 105e.Being driver mechanic for himself makes him consistanly there rain or shine. He has such a passion for racing these cars and travels all over the south island and sometimes the north island. from your long time friend ex pat kiwi Alistair now living in Melbourne 1 year cheers :)


When John first appeared with the car it was titled The Junkyard Dog. He gave it that name as there wasn't a new part in it.
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Found these on Allan Dick's Facebook page. [ATTACH]23630[/ATTACH]
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45DCOE wrote:Found these on Allan Dick's Facebook page. [ATTACH]23630[/ATTACH]

[color="#0000CD"]Enlarge the pic & read the data on the windscreen placard...Mainland Muscle cars looks like its going to be the class to watch in future..[/color]
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Another image for Allan Dick's Facebook page. Youtube shows car raced with fastback @ Skope.
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David McKinney wrote:This is a list of the fastback Anglias I know of. Some were not “fastbacked” by their first owners

1. Dave Simpson (Auckland) 1966, Frank Radisich 1967. Sprague family (Timaru) 1968-70, Peter Kocis (Dunedin) 1970-71, Gary Lang (Wellington) 1971, Ian Taylor 1972

2. Paul Fahey (Auckland) 1966, Ward and Coppins (Gisborne) 1967, John Elliott and Neil Johns (Northland) 1969, Kerry Rout (Christchurch) 1969-70

3. Jack Nazer 1967

4. Gary Huxford (Wellington) 1967, Dick Slacke (Christchurch) 1967-68

5. Hamish McLeod (Wellington) 1967-68, Dave Mitchell (Timaru) 1967

6. Gary Huxford 1970, Trevor Eve 1970-71

7. Bob Slade (Christchurch, LHD) 1970, Malcolm Coffey (Wellington, Triumph 2000 engine) 1971-72, Robert Bartley 1972-73

8. Paul Barnard (Hawke’s Bay) 1972-73

9. Dave Goodlass (Hawke’s Bay) 1972-76. May be Barnard's

10. Paul Barnard 1975-76 (possibly his earlier car), Ross Gordon (Wellington) 1976

Plus of course the ex-Doyle Anglia Corvette: Alec Dickie 1970-72

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I went to a club night at our local (Wairarapa) Vintage Car Club last night, plonked myself down next to Gary Lang, handed him this list that I had printed off and got him talking about breadbin Anglias and lots of other racing car stuff from back in the day. When he left for home I zoomed in on Ray Lester who raced a 105E in the 60's, showed him the list and learnt some more. So, along with a bit I knew myself, here's what I've got.

Starting with No.1 on the list, after buying this car from Peter Kocis, Gary had it for about a year during which he did some hillclimbs but never circuit raced it. He then sold it to Ian Taylor. This is the same Ian Taylor who was a top stock car and production saloon driver at Te Marua Speedway and builder of the best looking stock car to ever grace a NZ track - Gil Mallias Traco Chev.
Taylor had the car for about 6 months, painted it his trademark hi-vis lime green colour and set a new outright saloon record at the Houghton Bay hillclimb. He then sold it to a Goodlass in Hawkes Bay.
The fastback was removed and the car continued being used in competition.
Gary says the car still very much exists ( in Goodlass ownership) and he read an article on it in a magazine (he thinks it was Petrolhead) several years ago.

No 4
At the Nov. 1966 Levin meeting I took some photos of cars in the pits. One of them was Gary Huxfords fastback No 92, sitting next to fellow Miramar Racing Team member Bill McPhersons FJ Holden. Several years ago I took it and one of Jack Nazers fastback (at the same meeting) sitting on it's trailer in damaged condition, ready for the drive home, to the car club to show Gary. When I bought them home I put them somewhere and havn't seen them since. If I ever find them I'll post them up.

I had never heard of Dick Slacke but Ray Lester bought his name up. Said he owned Majestic Motors in Masterton (they specialised in selling American cars) around the late 60s/early 70s. Around that time he had a fastback that he took the motor out of to put in a boat and got Ray to build an exhaust pipe for it. No knowledge of the car after that.

Gary Huxford was a carrier and was killed when his truck rolled back onto him in a loading bay.

No5
In 1967 I was an apprentice electrician. Just along from our workshop was a carrying company N F Raven and for a few months a bloke named Hamish McLeod from the Wairarapa was driving for them. He had a green 105E for a daily driver which he built into a fastback.
The first thing done was one of the headlights was recessed in the style of a MGB. It looked really bizarre for a few weeks until the other side was done. Then a steel framework was fabricated at the back but the sheetmetal wasn't put on so it looked like a designer birdcage. I never saw the car finished but I presume it was.

No7
When I was a young apprentice another apprentice said to me; "you're just like my brother - always got your head in a racing car magazine but you don't do anything". I thought that was a bit harsh because I was only on about 8 bucks a week so I was hardly in a position to start my campaign to be the Worlds next Fangio.
As it happened he was only half-right because his brother was Malcolm Coffey who did do something. He had the Triang and then bought the Cossack Escort from Jack Nazer and had the extreme misfortune to write it off on it's first outing (at Levin).
Like his brother he emigrated to Canada.
As for me, I had seen enough cars and drivers suffering damage by then and had lost interest in being the Worlds next Fangio. Someone else would have to do it.

No10
Seems to be a mystery here. Ross Gordon (met him once) had a service station in Adelaide Road, near the Basin Reserve, then a car sales nearby. Gary Lang didn't recall him having a fastback nor does a good friend of mine who knocked around with him back then. He had a couple of Monaros, raced Minis and then got into rallying around 1974 with an Escort.
Lost his life with 2 others when the car he was a back seat passenger in left the road and landed on the rocks at Houghton Bay on the Wellington coast.

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Does the ex Simpson Anglia still exist ?

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Yes the David Simpson Anglia still exists. The Anglia #212 is it and at that stage of its life was owned by David Goodlass. I have seen it within the last few months. Owner proposes to restore it but unsure to which stage in its life.
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The original 1966 stage would be good.
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I remember a Orange Breadvan Anglia with I think a black roof at the end of a driveway in an old house over Govenors Bay way in the hills over ChCh Lyttleton way in the ninteys. Was there for years and may still be ? Looked a bit like it was just left for dead to be rescued one day. Never went and asked about it but would these days if I went back down there.
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fhuket wrote:I remember a Orange Breadvan Anglia with I think a black roof at the end of a driveway in an old house over Govenors Bay way in the hills over ChCh Lyttleton way in the ninteys. Was there for years and may still be ? Looked a bit like it was just left for dead to be rescued one day. Never went and asked about it but would these days if I went back down there.


This one fhuket. It went up on Trademe in 2008
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