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Re: BUILD THREAD For 1964 Falcon Sprint to Monte Carlo Rallye FIA spec'
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:54 pm
by khyndart in CA
Paul,
Here are a couple of clips that feature the 1964 Falcon a bit more than that '64 Monte Carlo Rally footage shown previously.
[video=youtube;s3MvffkrSs0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s3MvffkrSs0&feature=youtu.be[/video]
Re: BUILD THREAD For 1964 Falcon Sprint to Monte Carlo Rallye FIA spec'
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 8:58 pm
by khyndart in CA
# 2
Even though it says 1963 Falcon this is a 1964 Falcon in my book. Pity about the ending but hope you get to enjoy it overall.
Will we see you at Spa ?
Cheers
Ken.
[video=youtube;gJkYDol6vW8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJkYDol6vW8&t=24s [/video]
Re: BUILD THREAD For 1964 Falcon Sprint to Monte Carlo Rallye FIA spec'
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:03 pm
by khyndart in CA
# 2
Even though it says 1963 Falcon this is a 1964 Falcon in my book. Pity about the ending but hope you get to enjoy it overall.
Bruce Dyer (Spgeti ) would also enjoy this, as I did seeing the classic Mini Coopers slide by !
Will we see you at Spa ?
Cheers
Ken.
[video=youtube;gJkYDol6vW8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJkYDol6vW8&t=24s [/video]
Re: BUILD THREAD For 1964 Falcon Sprint to Monte Carlo Rallye FIA spec'
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 9:40 pm
by Paul B
Great clips Ken! thanks for posting them.
Spa is a fantastic auto course, I have been there once previously. I would love to take the Falcon there.
Spgeti, you will like Alfa racing at Spa about 1/2 way through.
Cheers
Re: BUILD THREAD For 1964 Falcon Sprint to Monte Carlo Rallye FIA spec'
Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2017 10:28 pm
by Spgeti
They all great clips. Sad end to the “Coon” but some neat cars out on the track including a Marcos.
Love the Guilia sliding around the corners...
B
Re: BUILD THREAD For 1964 Falcon Sprint to Monte Carlo Rallye FIA spec'
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 6:07 am
by Paul B
Now that the fiberglass doors are built & fitted I have moved on the the final part of the body work fitting the front fenders.
The front fenders were supplied as 1 piece but no rear inner fender support panel was supplied or fitted. As you can see in the picture below, this is a shot of the new fiber fender fitted to the car, you can see straight through to the door hinges, the fender on the left and the cowl/firewall on the right.
The below is the steel fender inner panel that I have now taken a mold of and made new inner panels from structural fiberglass
So now with the molds made I have made 2 new panels and waiting for them to cure
The next pic'is that of the fender fitted but still needing the rear inner panel fitted and gapping
More to come soon when its all fitted
Re: BUILD THREAD For 1964 Falcon Sprint to Monte Carlo Rallye FIA spec'
Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2017 8:41 pm
by Paul B
Here is a great video of a Holman Moody "FE" 427 Mustang Racing at Portland Historic Races.
Such a cool sound, looks like he is shifting at 6800-7200
[video=youtube;yU26_YNK9vA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yU26_YNK9vA[/video]
Re: BUILD THREAD For 1964 Falcon Sprint to Monte Carlo Rallye FIA spec'
Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 10:34 pm
by khyndart in CA
Re: BUILD THREAD For 1964 Falcon Sprint to Monte Carlo Rallye FIA spec'
Posted: Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:53 am
by Paul B
Hi Ken, Thanks for yet another great post, That is one of the best shots of #49 the Bo Ljungfeldt car (I have it on my Tee shirt). I believe it won every leg (or nearly) of the MCR but due to the handicap given for the Falcons the Mini won overall, Not withstanding Paddy Hopkirk, in the Mini did an outstanding job and most impressive drive.
I did not know that car (in the attached link) was up for sale again, previously it was up for sale and some controversy around its chassis number. Hopefully it was sorted out. #49 car did go back to Sweden after the Rally ended in 1964, not sure after that.
There are only about 3 surviving MCR cars that I have heard of. There could be more stashed away waiting to be found.
Its always amazing what you manage to find under stones, garage floors, archives or wherever you find these great gems.
Cheers from Kiwi land!
Re: BUILD THREAD For 1964 Falcon Sprint to Monte Carlo Rallye FIA spec'
Posted: Fri Nov 24, 2017 6:58 pm
by Paul B
khyndart in CA wrote:Paul,
I posted these photos on the other Falcon thread.
They show an Alan Mann 1964 Falcon Monte Carlo Rallye car. License number ZE1051
[ATTACH=CONFIG]47521[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH=CONFIG]47522[/ATTACH]
[ATTACH=CONFIG]47523[/ATTACH]
(I really enjoy your inputs and details of your work. You are a true craftsman indeed )
Ken H
Hi Ken,
These are great pics (pg 8 post #160), I believe of when Alan Mann was testing the cars prior to the Monte Carlo Rallye
This car was #141 driven by Peter Harper and John Sprinzel
First pic is a great shot, tossing it into the corner!
Re: BUILD THREAD For 1964 Falcon Sprint to Monte Carlo Rallye FIA spec'
Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2017 8:09 am
by khyndart in CA
Paul,
This Ford Falcon Club site might have some useful information and contacts for you.
http://www.falconclub.com/1964-2/This is a great shot of Terry Sanger trying very hard in his 64 Falcon # 102 at the old Crystal Palace circuit which was close to where I used to live in Croydon. 1972 -73. The track had sadly closed in 1971 and I missed out on what must been a marvelous place to enjoy the racing.
(Ken H)
Re: BUILD THREAD For 1964 Falcon Sprint to Monte Carlo Rallye FIA spec'
Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2017 9:21 am
by Paul B
Thanks Ken, Great shot!
Its quite a common sight seeing these Falcons taking on an angular state while racing, Similar thing at Goodwood also.
(almost looks like an early drift event!)
These Falcons would have been ex Monte Carlo fleet, raced during the 1965 - 1969 period, raced by:
Alan Mann racing - Frank Gardener
Mathwall Engineering
Dennis Leech
Malcolm Gartlan Racing
Roy Pierpoint
Terry Sanger
Malcolm Gartlan Racing
Re: BUILD THREAD For 1964 Falcon Sprint to Monte Carlo Rallye FIA spec'
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 6:37 am
by Paul B
On the home straight now with the panel work. The front fenders are fitted with the new fiberglass inner panels I fabricated earlier and a nice solid, really good fit. Also fitted the OEM side trim brightwork
I've just got some minor gapping to do on the fenders and doors and its done. Wahoo!!
December and January will be paint prepping,in for primer and another sand then planning to go to paint later in the year.
Colours will be Wimbledon White with Guardsman blue side stripe ( same as the G Hill car #201 of course)
Re: BUILD THREAD For 1964 Falcon Sprint to Monte Carlo Rallye FIA spec'
Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:34 am
by Bruce302
Looks fantastic Paul, That is a ton of work, but the results are well worth it.
Very nice.
B.
Re: BUILD THREAD For 1964 Falcon Sprint to Monte Carlo Rallye FIA spec'
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:15 am
by Paul B
Thanks Bruce.
Now this is not a Falcon
But its 1964 and demonstrates what the experimental NASCAR 1964 Fairlane (sport coupe model) that was at Alan Mann racing in 64 was all about. This car was one of 3 recreations re-made by Holman Moody In 2003. 2 cars had FIA status but I believe they changed the cars around and this was pulled by FIA. The engine was a 427 big block FE. Just listen to that big block sound... music to my ears!
The experimental NASCAR 1964 Fairlane (sport coupe model) car is not to be confused with the 1964 Fairlane 427 Thunderbolt, which was a 2 door post model and was built only for drag racing.
The Experimental NASCAR 1964 Fairlane 2 door Sport Coupe model with a 427 was a completely different project as Ford wanted to transition out of full chassis Galaxies for NASCAR. Holman Moody built the 1964 experimental NASCAR 427 Sport coupe Fairlanes in secret and 1 was shipped to UK, Alan Mann racing for testing, I believe it was very successful. Later Alan Mann Racing offered up a number of Ford race cars including this car for sale. It was never seen again. I believe it went back to USA.
It was Fireball Roberts who raced such a car in USA at The 1964 DAYTONA CONTINENTAL MEETING This was partly International, for the World Championship of Makes (16.02.1964).
The FORD Fairlane was in fact entered in the AMERICAN CHALLENGE CUP race and this is not recognised as an FIA International Competition, it took place as an opening race on the 15.02.1964. He came 2nd in this race
[video=youtube;9WRgybAyc6Y]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WRgybAyc6Y[/video]
Re: BUILD THREAD For 1964 Falcon Sprint to Monte Carlo Rallye FIA spec'
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 4:53 am
by kiwi285
Paul B wrote:Thanks Bruce.
Now this is not a Falcon but its 1964 and demonstrates what the experimental 1964 Fairlane that was at Alan Mann racing in 64 was all about. This car was one of 2 recreations made by Holman Moody I think around 2003, The engine was a 427 big block FE. Just listen to that big block sound... music to my ears!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WRgybAyc6Y
Fantastic build Paul - you are a true craftsman. It has been quite an experience to see the way you have gone about each stage and the workmanship that you have exhibited. A real example of how a car should be put together for this class and anyone who wants to complain about having to do some small items should look your way.
Love the clip of the Fairlane in action.
Re: BUILD THREAD For 1964 Falcon Sprint to Monte Carlo Rallye FIA spec'
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 8:49 am
by Bruce302
Paul B wrote:Thanks Bruce.
Now this is not a Falcon but its 1964 and demonstrates what the experimental 1964 Fairlane that was at Alan Mann racing in 64 was all about. This car was one of 2 recreations made by Holman Moody I think around 2003, The engine was a 427 big block FE. Just listen to that big block sound... music to my ears!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WRgybAyc6Y
Oh to drive "the green hell" in a car like that. Lets do it.
Re: BUILD THREAD For 1964 Falcon Sprint to Monte Carlo Rallye FIA spec'
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:57 am
by Paul B
Bruce302 wrote:Oh to drive "the green hell" in a car like that. Lets do it.
I could watch that all day! that Big block 427 Fairlane machine rocks my world! (post #193)
Lets bucket list the Nordschleife!
Total coolness
Re: BUILD THREAD For 1964 Falcon Sprint to Monte Carlo Rallye FIA spec'
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 10:10 am
by Paul B
kiwi285 wrote:Fantastic build Paul - you are a true craftsman. It has been quite an experience to see the way you have gone about each stage and the workmanship that you have exhibited. A real example of how a car should be put together for this class and anyone who wants to complain about having to do some small items should look your way.
Love the clip of the Fairlane in action.
Thanks very much for your kind words. Like I have said to a couple of people. Some cars just cooperate really well, this car is awesome its has been really cooperative!
All the good stuff will be coming soon - Brake fitment, cooling, Suspension & set up, engine build, gearbox, Ratios - final gearing, wheels & tyres.
Its all good fun... And that's why we do it.
Re: BUILD THREAD For 1964 Falcon Sprint to Monte Carlo Rallye FIA spec'
Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2017 6:02 pm
by Bruce302
Paul B wrote:I could watch that all day! that Big block 427 Fairlane machine rocks my world! (post #193)
Lets bucket list the Nordschleife!
Total coolness
You bring the car, i'll bring the coke and hookers....