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Re: Race Car Transporters of the Past

Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 9:18 am
by John B
Fantastic 1:43rd model of the 1956 Ford F600 "Neil Scott's Transport" Car Carrier. This model is available from www.spr-models.co.nz

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Re: Race Car Transporters of the Past

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 7:28 pm
by Steve Holmes
Not sure if this one has been posted. The mad Chaparral 2H 1969 Can-Am car, designed by the incredible Jim Hall. This was its high downforce Laguna Seca guise, with the giant wing on top. That trailer looks completely inadequate.

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Re: Race Car Transporters of the Past

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:04 am
by Roger Dowding
Steve Holmes wrote:Not sure if this one has been posted. The mad Chaparral 2H 1969 Can-Am car, designed by the incredible Jim Hall. This was its high downforce Laguna Seca guise, with the giant wing on top. That trailer looks completely inadequate.

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John Surtees raced it at Edmonton with his Number 7 and was without the huge wing .. Ken H, agree about the trailer, very 60's could almost be in NZ ..

Re: Race Car Transporters of the Past

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 1:38 am
by Steve Holmes
It raced most events without the big wing. I think it may have only appeared this way for Laguna Seca? Either way, this seems to be its most famous guise.

Re: Race Car Transporters of the Past

Posted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 5:10 am
by khyndart in CA
This information from the Chaparral Files may explain 2H # 79.

http://www.thechaparralfiles.com/chaparral_revelations.php

(Ken H )

Re: Race Car Transporters of the Past

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 4:26 pm
by khyndart in CA
Last month I posted this Ferrari transporter that was first used in 1959. This is an update on that vehicle.
Used by the Scuderia the 682 RN-2, Ferrari’s new toy featured slightly different looks than its predecessor. For 11 years the 682 safely carried some of the best, most astonishing race cars ever made from one track to the next. By 1970 it was sold to a circus promoter that toured it all over Italy ! After the circus episode it remained stored for about 20 years, before being bought in 1995 by SoCal specialists that arranged for a full restoration.
This Ferrari transporter 682/RN-2 sold at Pebble Beach in 2011 for just under one million US dollars.
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Transporter in 1961 Ferrari F1.jpg

(Ken Hyndman )

Re: Race Car Transporters of the Past

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:05 pm
by khyndart in CA
Ferrari transporter clip.

[video=youtube;4oi9IQOsdQI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oi9IQOsdQI[/video]

Re: Race Car Transporters of the Past

Posted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 9:25 pm
by Ray Bell
Wow! Getting those cars down from that height must have required some good ramps!

And what about the many races when they ran more than three cars in that era?

Re: Race Car Transporters of the Past

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 8:20 am
by khyndart in CA
Ray,
Perhaps they did not use ramps and loaded the cars like Maserati did with their Tipo 61"Birdcage" sports cars in 1960.

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(Ken Hyndman )

Re: Race Car Transporters of the Past

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 4:39 pm
by Horizon
Hello ,

When the truck was sold at Monterey , It arrivied in Seattle. I was the "car Guy" at the Pat Hart collection.

RN 2 682 was the bigger version of the two fiat transporters. One was built off a truck chassis and the other was a bus chassis.

Powered by a 6 cylinder low compression diesel. 4 speed with a two speed (high/low) rear end. 55kph.....down hill/tail wind was all she had !

The ramps ; Ughh :-0

Heavy Heavy Steel ramps are needed to get a car from the ground up to the lower level of the truck. A PTO driven winch was used to pull the car up and then the same winch used to raise/lower the ramp vis pulleys/cables in order to get cars up top.

Pebble Beach : wow !! I think it was in 2000 ? RN 2 682 was transported on a flat bed truck to Monterey. Its about a 16-18 hr drive.
We unloaded her at Fort Ord (disused Miltary base) and she was driven up to the Polo field (staging area) . There on a side street in Secret , with security , we placed a pontoon TR57, pontoon TR58 and the ex Pete Lovely TR59. At that time , we were the first ever to be allowed onto the 18th Green on the Saturday night.
After the show, the truck was driven uptp to Laguna to unload a one/two ? of the cars.

We used the truck a couple of times a year to support the local races at Pacific Raceways. RN 2 682 was sold on in about 02/03?

cheers
Tony

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Re: Race Car Transporters of the Past

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 9:57 pm
by khyndart in CA
Tony,
That is a wonderful input regarding the Ferrari transporter.
What type of transporter do you use ?
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Cheers,
Ken H

Re: Race Car Transporters of the Past

Posted: Fri Dec 02, 2016 11:02 pm
by bce257
Really enjoying this thread. Saw this on TM, very nicely detailed. Wonder why they were RHD?

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http://www.trademe.co.nz/toys-models/die-casts/other/auction-1213749465.htm

Re: Race Car Transporters of the Past

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:24 am
by stubuchanan
bce257 wrote:Really enjoying this thread. Saw this on TM, very nicely detailed. Wonder why they were RHD?

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http://www.trademe.co.nz/toys-models/die-casts/other/auction-1213749465.htm


My wife and I spent about 3 weeks driving around Italy ( the big OE) in 1970, and noted that all the bigger trucks were right-hand drive, and always had a 2-man crew. I think this might originally have been due to the narrow roads in some parts, but the Autostradas dated back to Mussolini's time pre-WW2. A lot of the sports cars were RHD too - if you look at photos of 1950s sports racing Ferraris and Maseratis many of those were RHD. I asked why on another forum a few years ago (Autosport Nostalgia Forum - UK) and somebody came up with a reason, but I can't remember what it was , now, - approaching senility I guess.

Will try to check it out. Stu

Re: Race Car Transporters of the Past

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:31 pm
by khyndart in CA
Stu,
I remember Ala Romeo had a LHD and RHD for Kevin Bartlett back in the day. If the circuit was anti clockwise and mostly left turns then the LHD was driven as it was easier to see the corner apex and the RHD car was driven on clockwise circuits.
I see LHD in the BTCC which I think is for the right handed drivers like to change gears with the right hand.
I may be off on this but that is my input for the racing, not sure on the transporter though.
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(BTCC racing in England as LHD cars)


(Ken Hyndman )

Re: Race Car Transporters of the Past

Posted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:34 pm
by khyndart in CA
Whoops !
"Vern, I told you to stop eating that pie and concentrate on the road ahead ! "


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(Ken Hyndman )

Re: Race Car Transporters of the Past

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 1:34 pm
by Ray Bell
Originally posted by khyndart in CA
Stu,
I remember Ala Romeo had a LHD and RHD for Kevin Bartlett back in the day. If the circuit was anti clockwise and mostly left turns then the LHD was driven as it was easier to see the corner apex and the RHD car was driven on clockwise circuits.....


I'm pretty sure the LHD and RHD GTAs were at Mildren's at different times...

Certainly there was no swapping due to circuit direction. KB just drove what he had at his disposal. The GTZs likewise.

Re: Race Car Transporters of the Past

Posted: Sun Dec 04, 2016 10:28 pm
by Terry S
khyndart in CA wrote:Stu,
I remember Ala Romeo had a LHD and RHD for Kevin Bartlett back in the day. If the circuit was anti clockwise and mostly left turns then the LHD was driven as it was easier to see the corner apex and the RHD car was driven on clockwise circuits.
I see LHD in the BTCC which I think is for the right handed drivers like to change gears with the right hand.
I may be off on this but that is my input for the racing, not sure on the transporter though.
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(BTCC racing in England as LHD cars)


(Ken Hyndman )


Ken, re Bartlett's RHD and LHD Alfa GTVs, have a look at this:

http://www.theroaringseason.com/showthread.php?2130-Bartlet-and-Alfa-GTA-s&highlight=bartlett

Re: Race Car Transporters of the Past

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 7:56 am
by khyndart in CA
July 1960. Silverstone. British Grand Prix.
Jim Clark's Lotus 18 # 8 being unloaded from the Team Lotus transporter.

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(KJH )

Re: Race Car Transporters of the Past

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 10:51 pm
by khyndart in CA
"Vern,
When you have finished eating your pie, can you come out from under that vehicle and park this BRM transporter properly instead of blocking the access road !"


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(Ken H )

Re: Race Car Transporters of the Past

Posted: Mon Dec 05, 2016 11:15 pm
by khyndart in CA
Here is a transporter Mr. Steve Holmes would appreciate.

"In the glory days of muscle cars, this transporter pulled out of Yenko's dealership with awesome cars. Yenko made them awesome."

Yenko transporter.jpg



http://www.yenko.net/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Yenko





(Ken Hyndman )