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Re: Who What and Where?
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 6:17 pm
by Oldfart
David has the driver surname (I thought, and wrote at the time Clive) but no-one is close on the venue yet. I was talking with the creator of the Minimax, Max Rutherford at Taupo at the weekend. He has done a magnificent job of the resto of the JBS.
Apparently the Minimax was created as a speedway TQ and "multi used" a lot before being sold, and rear engine cars banned from speedway (at least TQ). He was considering a replica of the 'max.
Re: Who What and Where?
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 7:57 pm
by Grant Ellwood
I think the Flowers gemini was aquired by the late Roy Lyme for hillclimbing. I ended up with the tail section when the car was modified at Rob Colliers workshop in Levin.
Grant Ellwood
Re: Who What and Where?
Posted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 10:23 pm
by jamie
Not John Pettit says he wasnt sily enufh to have just maried writen on his car ?? but says it is his old car and would like to know where it is Jamie A
Re: Who What and Where?
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 3:54 am
by jamie
John Pettit has just payed me a visit and seen the 2 photos and now sayes that it is him in the first photo the car is down in a gully after falling off the road .he bought the car of Max Rutherford Jamie A
Re: Who What and Where?
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:35 am
by Oldfart
jamie wrote:John Pettit has just payed me a visit and seen the 2 photos and now sayes that it is him in the first photo the car is down in a gully after falling off the road .he bought the car of Max Rutherford Jamie A
OK, so I was wrong with my naming at the time, so I will accept John. BUT the car is NOT down a gully after falling off the road. It is on a bank between the turn around loop and the first uphill part of the road at a Gold Star hill climb at Tarawera, went from the lake edge up to almost the Buried Village. Now Jamie would know why I said "closer to home"!
Re: Who What and Where?
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 5:52 am
by Oldfart
Another
Re: Who What and Where?
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:22 am
by bob homewood
Is that the " old english gent "
Re: Who What and Where?
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:26 am
by Oldfart
bob homewood wrote:Is that the " old english gent "
Count someone?
Re: Who What and Where?
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:24 pm
by David McKinney
Amerikiwi wrote:I think the Flowers gemini was aquired by the late Roy Lyme for hillclimbing. I ended up with the tail section when the car was modified at Rob Colliers workshop in Levin.
Grant Ellwood
He did it have it for a while, but I don't recall him using it much before selling it to the Baker brothers
Re: Who What and Where?
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:23 pm
by jamie
ROY LYME in Cooper Jamie
Re: Who What and Where?
Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 10:56 pm
by bob homewood
Thats who I meant ,sorry it was a bit of a private joke ,I always called hin the "old english gent " he always took it in the right vein
Re: Who What and Where?
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 5:33 am
by Oldfart
jamie wrote:ROY LYME in Cooper Jamie
Where?
Re: Who What and Where?
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 7:55 am
by bob homewood
Actually looking at Roy on the serious side he was not too bad at getting the job done ,I helped him at the wet Easter Bay Park meeting ,the same one the Aussie mini guys came over for ,it was a pouring wet day and was his first drive in the ex Tony Batchelor Brabham TC ,he did a dam good job and acquitted himself well that day,considering up to then most of his running had been on the hills
Re: Who What and Where?
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:19 am
by David McKinney
Ah - but not as good a job as fellow Rotorua driver Tony Baker in the Gemini

Re: Who What and Where?
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 6:05 pm
by bob homewood
Yes ,got to agree with that one David ,that was a good drive by Tony that day ,and of course a few months later ,Roy's single seater aspirations were over after he crashed and badly damaged the Brabham at Pukekohe ,strange all the experts knew better ,nobody wanted to listen to me ,there was no way we should have been trying to run those tyres on that type of rim ,there was no safety lip to retain them if the pressures dropped,which is what happened
Re: Who What and Where?
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 8:27 pm
by David McKinney
I wouldn't have minded Roy Lyme's Pukekohe "off" so much if he hadn't aimed the thing at my viewing spot inside Champion

Re: Who What and Where?
Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 10:39 pm
by Grant Ellwood
Roy got badly burned, refuelling the Gemini I think but Jamie would know the details I'm sure. Possibly the reason why there was quite a time gap between running the Gemini and the Brabham.
I recall seeing a photo of Roy's crash at Puke, the fence posts went down like dominos.
Roy said later that Tony B. told him prior to the moment that Champion was flat in that car..... He also said that he had aimed it at David (joking).
David McKinney wrote:I wouldn't have minded Roy Lyme's Pukekohe "off" so much if he hadn't aimed the thing at my viewing spot inside Champion
Re: Who What and Where?
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2011 7:36 pm
by bob homewood
Oldfart wrote:Where?
Tarawera ?
Re: Who What and Where?
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:23 am
by jamie
Yes that is were I think it is also Jamie
Re: Who What and Where?
Posted: Sat Dec 10, 2011 1:40 am
by bob homewood
Down the bottom I reckon Jamie ? ,I could tell a few stories about that area ,but they belong in another thread .Might sound stupid but the tow truck looks familiar ,was that Bakers ? I tried reading the name in the photo but can't