B&W Photos 1968 - 1970; From Baypark to Amaroo Park by Ken Hyndman

[khyndart in CA]

So what area of the track was I at when I took this photo of Allan Moffat and Pete Geoghegan having a wonderful battle on July 7 1970 at Warwick Farm ?

( Ken Hyndman photo. )

[Terry S]

So what area of the track was I at when I took this photo of Allan Moffat and Pete Geoghegan having a wonderful battle on July 7 1970 at Warwick Farm ?
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( Ken Hyndman photo. )

Corner 12 I believe

[seaqnmac27]

Corner 12 I believe

So that would be coming off the causeway Terry?

[Ray Bell]

Sure is, the back of the pits...

Polo looms ahead of them, the fence there separates the traffic coming across the Northern Crossing from those heading into Polo, way in the distance is the Shell Bridge right in the middle of the esses.

[Ray Bell]

Originally posted by khyndart in CA
Grant,
You do have a good memory. If you look at posting # 106 you will see Mrs Matich at the back of the Fairlane along with her
young daughter..

His memory isn't so amazing, Frank had three daughters (not two)...

The youngest is the one sitting in the boot near Joan, that's Lee, probably about nine at that time. The others were Kim and Katrina. And the mechanics with the car and later pushing it are Peter Mabey and the late Graeme (Lugsy) Adams.

Any chance of knowing the car with No 10 on it in the pit late just behind Frank might be?

[khyndart in CA]

I went to the "Farm" for the first time in May 1970.

I expected Frank Matich to run away with the sports car race but when the practice sessions started this beautiful machine came racing around.

K Hyndman photo )

The Neil Allen Elfin ME 5 Chevrolet was the star of the day and won the main race.

( Oldrace photos from Imgrum.org. )

I found this interesting article regarding this Elfin ME 5.

http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/archive/article/june-1997/84/whizeer-oz


(Ken Hyndman )

[Terry S]

His memory isn't so amazing, Frank had three daughters (not two)...

Any chance of knowing the car with No 10 on it in the pit late just behind Frank might be?

Ray, I know my eyes are slowly fading but I can't see a car # 10 behind Frank.

Which post are you referring to?

[khyndart in CA]

Terry,
Ray was referring to this photo I took and I may have cropped too much out.
(Looks like stiff competition for the M10B !)
Sept. 13. 1970. Amaroo Park. NSW.

(Ken Hyndman photo )

[Ray Bell]

If I get through the day okay I'll post a photo of the compliance plate the McMillen/Marwood Eisert later wore in Nebraska...

And now as I look more closely that's a '30' on that car. I wonder if it's the Graham Wood Cooper-Climax?

By the way, that's a great photo of Niel Allen in the ME5, and it looks like its his old Lotus 23B behind him.

[seaqnmac27]

If I get through the day okay I'll post a photo of the compliance plate the McMillen/Marwood Eisert later wore in Nebraska...

And now as I look more closely that's a '30' on that car. I wonder if it's the Graham Wood Cooper-Climax?

By the way, that's a great photo of Niel Allen in the ME5, and it looks like its his old Lotus 23B behind him.

Defi0nitely #30. The Eisert in Dennis Marwoods hands:

[SPman]

What eventually happened to the Eisert?

[khyndart in CA]

I found this entry in "oldracingcars.com."
Eisert;
" The 1965 car remained in New Zealand until 1970 and was then shipped back to the US where it was sold, possibly via Pierre Phillips, to Bill Tempero (Ft Collins, CO) and fitted with wedge-style bodywork. He raced it in F5000 in 1971 and 1972 after which it was converted for street use by brothers Wayne and Steve Huntley in Nebraska. It was also used as a show car by Fred Bosselman in the late 1970s or early 1980s, probably at his Bosselman Truck Plaza in Grand Island, Nebraska. In the early 1990s it was acquired by Bill Wiswedel (Holland, MI) who has restored it to 1965 colours but still with the later, squarer bodywork. Still with Wiswedel in September 2014.

Bay Park. Oct. 1969.
(Ken Hyndman photo )

[Ray Bell]

Here's the Eisert in its present abode... at Holland in Michigan...



There've been some changes since its early days. The car has always worn a Chev V8, both in F5000 and in Indy form.

Owner Bill Wiswedel is something of a collector and has a wide range of cars, hot rods to ex-Foyt Indy cars. Here he is with Jerry Entin and the Eisert, which by 2016 was undergoing a bit of resto work:



And the strangest part of the Eisert's life? The two brothers in Nebraska owned it and put it on the road!

[Ray Bell]

That Motor Sport story could do with a lot of cleaning up...

Niel Allen's name is constantly mispelled, the car never won the Hordern Trophy (which was for Racing Cars) but the RAC Trophy. It was never intended to do Can-Am and Can-Am rules are very different to those applying in Australia.

For the record, from memory, Niel was about 5' 6". Age has cut him down further as he declines into dementia, so unfortunate. A really nice guy who gave so much to Australian racing. Even when he bowed out, as the fluctuations of his business forced him to do a couple of times, he made sure he sold his cars off at a price which would help others get a good start with them.

[khyndart in CA]

Ray,
I remember when I first worked at Trojan Works in October 1972 that there was an inverted McLaren M10B tub under covers in the workshop and one person said that was an ex Niel Allen tub that had been returned for repairs. Another said no it was one that Warwick Brown had used for the 1972 Tasman and 1972 Australian races. The sign written name had been removed but the unique # 10 style and BP sticker helped me while searching that it was the car driven by Warwick Brown but it had originally started as a spare tub for Niel Allen so I guess the Trojan people were both correct. Race car history did not mean much to me back then and I forgot about until I started out on TRS a few years ago.
I certainly appreciate all of you who put the facts straight as the memory does get a bit faded over the years.

Inside Trojan workshop. October 1972. Note inverted M10B tub with # 10 and BP sticker.
(Ken Hyndman photo ) p.s. In the background is where every non factory McLaren tub was produced 1965 until late 1972. Formula Two, Formula 5000 and Can Am.

The same car as driven by Warwick Brown in 1972 Tasman Series.

This M10B had quite a complex history as per this Oldracingcars.com summary. (I did get to touch the dark blue sides in 1972 !)
McLaren*M10B
400-19

"
Spare chassis supplied to Neil Allen. According to Trojan records, it was numbered 400-19 and delivered 28 Jul 1970. The car does not appear to have had a chassis plate and is believed to have shared the number '400-02'. Built up as complete car by Allen and Peter Malloy and, after Allen's retirement, advertised 31 Mar to 7 May 1971 - Allan Hamilton: Australian Gold Star 1971 - Pat Burke Racing for Warwick Brown Tasman 1972. Also March, April, May, Aug, Oct, Nov, Dec 1972 (Brown gets T300 Jan 1973); Trojan Racing for Bob Muir Tasman 1973; Team Target for Warwick Brown (Aus) Gold Star from Oct 1973. Suspension and other parts used for Bryan Thomson 's VW Sports Sedan which debuted at Calder in January 1974. The M10B tub was later rebuilt into a complete car and went via Peter Bick, Paul Trevethan and George Parlby to Llynden Riethmuller.
Note that the Formula 1 Register books record 400-19 as being the replacement M10B used by Keith Holland 1971-72 (from R3 Brands onwards, replacing car crashed at R1 Mallory). See 400-06(B) above.
After Riethmuller's death in July 2009, both this car and 400-02 were acquired from Riethmuller's family by Alan Hamilton in May 2011. However, one of the cars, presumably 400-19, was described as "an unpainted tub with enough bits to complete the car less a transmission".
When Alan Hamilton's two M10Bs were restored, one was dark green with an orange nose and the other was red with a green nose. Alfredo Costanzo raced the green M10B 400-19 at the Phillip Island Classic in March 2013, at Historic Sandown in November 2013, at the Phillip Island Classic in March 2015, and at Phillip Island Classic in March 2016. By 2016, it was owned by Giuseppe 'Joe' Ricciardo.
Driven by: Alan Hamilton, Warwick Brown and Bob Muir. First race: Lakeside (AGS R1), 6*Jun*1971. Total of 19 recorded races. "

(Ken Hyndman)

[Ray Bell]

And it looked fantastic coming out of Paddock Bend at the Farm onto the Pit Straight, tail out slightly, nose up, Warwick enjoying himself at the end of a test session overseen by Peter Molloy...

[khyndart in CA]

Ray,
Would not the car be coming out of Leger Corner onto the Pit Straight or do I have the wrong direction ?

My view of turn one in May 1970.

(KH photo. )

[khyndart in CA]

Some photos of the McLaren M 10 B (400-19 ) in action.

In 1971 with Alan Hamilton driving. (Looks like a fun car to drive.)

Primotipo.com quote;
Alan Hamilton cornering his McLaren 911 style at Warwick Farm 1971, date unknown. Car is chassis ‘400-19’, Niel Allen’s spare built up by Peter Molloy and sold, together with his race chassis ‘400-02’ to Alan Hamilton and Keven Bartlett respectively. Full monocoque aluminium chassis, 500bhp fuel injected 5 litre Chev engine, Hewland DG300 gearbox…much more powerful than a Porsche 906! (unattributed)


1972 at Surfers being driven by Warwick Brown as described by Ray with the nose up.
This is the chassis tub that was at Trojan. Oct. 1972. (Not sure whether it was damaged or being updated for the 1973 season.)

(Ken H)

[Terry S]

Ray,
Would not the car be coming out of Leger Corner onto the Pit Straight or do I have the wrong direction ?

My view of turn one in May 1970.
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(KH photo. )

Yes Ken you are correct, it is Leger Corner into Pit Straight.

Alas poor Ray's memory must be fading him; and he is our resident expert on the Farm.

His memory is seemingly as bad as his eyesight, in post 166 mistaking the number 30 for 10.

[John McKechnie]

Terry S- talking of racing, i liked your recent comment on ten tenths-
Kiwi Domination in VASC- Supercars.
"Of the 9 championship races to date in 2017, Kiwis have won 8, and Aussies only 1."