Bucklers!

[Waznot]

The car at Silverstream before shipping to Oz

Car in shipping container over the top of 1971 3L Marcos

Car having to be steam cleaned to clear quarantine

Car picked up before Jag stolen.

original chassis

Rebuilding Chassis

[Oldfart]

Welcome Waznot.
You definitely (as you know, have a deJoux body. The chassis doesn't match any of the Buckler drawings/plans which I have, but still looks a whole lot better than many I have seen.
The AX number plate would date from 1964 (or is it 65) when the old types were phased out and the silver on black brought in.
I am confident that someone will chime in on here with more. Unfortunately almost all the period photos I have which might have helped identify it have the older style plates(pre 65).

[ERC]

What 3L Marcos? Pic please!!!!

[Waznot]

Thanks for responding, the info about the plates helps. I was told that the body was made in 1956, by someone who should know, I just wish I could remember their name. When I first saw the car it had a windscreen frame and roof on which may have been how it originally ran ?.

[Waznot]

After Rego in Aus,

NA4169 in Silverstream before shipping.

Marcos is now in Perth, Western Australia.

[Oldfart]

I think the timing is approximately correct for the beginnings of the de Joux bodies, the first dated one I have a record completed is 1957. It's possible the person you are thinking of is Bruce Sutcliffe. It was quite common for de Joux bodies to use the rear screen of a Humber 80, that may be what you have.That hard top looks very much like Healey.
I have no photographic evidence to show any raced with a hard top, doesn't mean they weren't though, and of course if was a road car, which the cast head and such may suggest possible, then finding evidence if it's needed may be a bit difficult.

[ERC]

Thanks for that. Ex Alan Stott NZ. Now painted red.

[Waznot]

Alan and Pam Stott, have only known them since I was 10 years old, brain fade as I'm getting older. Do'ah

[Roger Dowding]

Alan and Pam Stott, have only known them since I was 10 years old, brain fade as I'm getting older. Do'ah

Waznot, great to see your pics of the before and as Oldfart says, others will know more about the car .. you should join the Facebook Group " Buckler Cars and Karts " run by David Montgomery in the UK, " Oldfart " is a member and in the UK too !!
Good luck Mate,

Cheers

Roger D

[Bjonkers]

Waznot, you have a beautiful car. Worth restoring! I believe yours may be the blue ‘mystery’ car in this thread posted in May 2017. Has a license plate starting certainly with AX and what follows MIGHT be 69, although it’s really hard to tell. Oldfart, Roger - would you agree?

BTW- i have also found some video footage somewhere of this blue AX car.

[Bjonkers]

Hi guys, i finally figured out how to join TRS. For those who’ve not seen my name before, i’m Bart, the dutch owner of ex NZ Buckler 90/1.

[Bjonkers]

[Roger Dowding]

Hi guys, i finally figured out how to join TRS. For those who’ve not seen my name before, i’m Bart, the dutch owner of ex NZ Buckler 90/1.

Bart.. well done and welcome.. I have posted a few of your recent photos as mentioned on Buckler Cars and Karts.. keep the photos coming..
Roger D

[Roger Dowding]

I recall the Orchid as being light blue. I'm pretty sure that white and red car is Andrew Buchanan's Buckler (ex-Mayo/Gill)

Just going back through this thread and have a B and W photo of the Orchid Special, believe the car is now in Europe [ Switzerland ] with a Michael R Rohrmoser. Have seen a recent photo of the car on Facebook.

This was in the paddock area at Pukekohe in April or May 1966.. along with a Buckler or two and other Sports Cars.
Cannot help with the colour, except must have been a dark colour !!

Please ignore the spelling and details on the photo, as when edited I didn't even know about the " Orchid Special ", thought it was a Buckler - the De Joux style body used.

[Oldfart]

Waznot, as you have the reg plate (or did have) you might be able to get Land Transport NZ to do a search for you. If it's the car posted a pic of then you would possibly find evidence of the pale blue.
AX plates were, I believe, issued in Northland when the change to permanent plates occurred, and Northland car club was a real hot bed of specials. Without being too sure, what you might have is a Billington car. Roy went on to be (Sir) Jack Brabham's lead mechanic, so that would be great providence.
FWIW I am not in the facebook group at this time, nor any other FB.

[Waznot]

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Interesting if we can find further photos of this car, a closer photo of car when found, look at colour under peeling top coat in doorway and in hollows in bonnet when sanded.

Still in my possession.

[Oldfart]

I was sent a scan of a whole page of Northland car club photos, one page I was told are all Billington. They don't copy well to media. Old B & W photos from Brian Skudder. The Billington car doesn't show a scoop.
There are quite a few minor differences between the light blue car and what photos you have posted Waznot, eg the position of the front indicator/park lights, hood scoop. Of course they could have been changed along the way, but why would anyone do that?

For a bit more on the blue car, refer to post #42 which says who owned it, info from the photographer who is named and was a friend of the Northland club members. (I knew I had it somewhere and was too lazy to look)

[Waznot]

Are you sure the car (128) in post 42 is the same car as above in post 167, different bonnet scoop, wing mirror, screen, I don't have access to my car at the moment, stored next to my workshop so cant have a look at bonnet to see if any indication of a bonnet scoop at some point. I am intrigued that mine was blue earlier though.

[Oldfart]

Simple answer to that question Waznot is no I'm not sure! Bonnet scoops were changed, particularly if an owner changed to an Elva head as the carbs went to the other side. I'm not saying that happened with that car but just another thing that makes being totally definitive a risky place to be.
With over 60 years having passed the colour might not be too helpful! The peeling paint looks a bit more metallic to me than what was around in the early 60s? As you point out a number of differences.

[Waznot]

My photo is a scan from my photo album done when I got the car, from memory the blue isn't metallic, will climb over the fence and see if I can get some new digital photos. lost a whole lot of digital ones from 7 years ago when my computer died with no backup. I would be very surprised if 2 De Joux bodied cars have a AX6? number plate though