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Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Sat Oct 03, 2015 10:19 pm
by Kiwiboss
The 3 HMC directors from left, Tony Roberts, Myself(Dale Mathers) and Steve Holmes, Steve drove all the way from Carterton just for this event plus so the 3 of us could get together to continue to plan the future of HMC, we have an unwavering commitment to making sure HMC works, and with the attraction of new racers/people coming on-board and other cars in the pipeline we can see a great future ahead for this and historic racing in NZ. Missing from this picture is Bruce Dyer the new HSC director.
Another great Phil Noble photo.
Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 1:28 am
by Steve Holmes
Great pics Dale, was a fun day. The sun even made an appearance!
Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 4:28 am
by John McKechnie
Historic Sports Sedans didnt run at Puke due to the noise and not having the long back straight.
We have been offered a place at the next TACCOC meeting at Hampton Downs November 1 and we are inviting only HMC cars, to join us for a joint outing .
Should be a neat fit and this Historic Tintop outing should be a ton of fun.
Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 6:41 am
by Kiwiboss
touringcarfan wrote:I am going to go out on a limb here.
Maybe `Icebreaker` is not prestigious enough, whereas the `Festival` is. Imagine that HMS were invited to race at the Supercar meet each year. I have a fair idea how that entry list might look!
Also there was a very visible difference in car speed at HD on the weekend. Maybe some guys don`t fancy getting beaten by a country mile?
Dale, I appreciate what you out there trying to achieve, however can you definitively state that ALL your registered drivers are out to achieve the same?
Anthony Sampson
Hi Anthony, thanks for posting your thoughts on here mate, and its always great to see you, dad John, mum, Gareth and Scott yesterday!! the Sampson family are very passionate historic saloon car racers and great for HMC, and its great to hear the red Capri will soon be back on track with its correct 4 speed fitted and COD application done, luv the commitment.
This is what most saw at yesterdays wet TACCOC event
Dale M
Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Sun Oct 04, 2015 7:17 am
by Spgeti
Between the Alingham and Sampson Families it certainly shows their passion and love of motorsport. Both Families made me so welcome and leaves such a good feeling in HMC/HSC. Thank you Guy's. Cheers, Bruce
Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:04 am
by Steve Holmes
Historic Muscle Cars are finally branching out to other parts of the North Island, with plans to run alongside Historic Saloon Cars at the 2016 MG Classic, at Manfeild. Lots of time to prepare, and drum up interest, and, more importantly, put on a great show for those in the lower North Island who haven't yet seen HMC. Watch this space.
Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:25 pm
by Kiwiboss
Here's the latest pictures of Nigel MacDonald's ex Dawson Shelby Trans Am Mustang. He's still waiting for the engine but I can confirm he will be racing it at the Festival in January and the other good news is the Neil Tolich will also be racing the Fleetwood Mustang, how long has it been since these two dinosaurs raced together?
Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 7:30 pm
by Kiwiboss
The Tolich Family Fleetwood Mustang, HMC is the class designed for to bring these monsters to life

Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:52 pm
by John McKechnie
And all going well we can sights like these out there again
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Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Thu Oct 15, 2015 8:54 pm
by Shoreboy57
Kiwiboss wrote:Here's the latest pictures of Nigel MacDonald's ex Dawson Shelby Trans Am Mustang.
Doesn't that look great!
Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Fri Oct 16, 2015 6:18 am
by GD66
Kiwiboss wrote:Here's the latest pictures of Nigel MacDonald's ex Dawson Shelby Trans Am Mustang. He's still waiting for the engine but I can confirm he will be racing it at the Festival in January and the other good news is the Neil Tolich will also be racing the Fleetwood Mustang, how long has it been since these two dinosaurs raced together?
Probably 1968, after Bryan crashed in the wet at Bay Park at Easter, Red bought the car not long after that.
BTW, without wishing to be a rivet-counter, the outlines on the gold 35 on the doors were bright yellow...
Mike Feisst pic.
Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:23 am
by Andrew Metford
GD66 wrote:…….BTW, without wishing to be a rivet-counter,….
Nothing wrong with being a rivet-counter, I get accused of being that regularly with my motorcycle restoration I'm doing

Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 4:12 am
by Spgeti
Kiwiboss wrote:Here's the latest pictures of Nigel MacDonald's ex Dawson Shelby Trans Am Mustang. He's still waiting for the engine but I can confirm he will be racing it at the Festival in January and the other good news is the Neil Tolich will also be racing the Fleetwood Mustang, how long has it been since these two dinosaurs raced together?
Congratulations Dale on attracting these 2 significant historic NZ Mustangs to the grid for the upcoming Festival. What a fantastic addition. I look forward to this and hope that we can attract a few more historic cars to our joint HMC/HSC grid. To the owners thank you in having trust in Dale and his team and we will treasure and respect your cars.
Cheers and Thanks
Bruce
Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:34 am
by Kiwiboss
GD66 wrote:Probably 1968, after Bryan crashed in the wet at Bay Park at Easter, Red bought the car not long after that.
BTW, without wishing to be a rivet-counter, the outlines on the gold 35 on the doors were bright yellow...[ Mike Feisst pic.
No problem GD66, numbers would have been painted on back then so Nigel understands it wont be "totally" correct with modern day stickers an all, but its close enough for viewing that when out on the track racing most of the public wouldn't know the difference, i guess we can all agree(sorry, not everyone) that at least its the real car, so how good is that

Dale M
Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:37 am
by Kiwiboss
Spgeti wrote:Congratulations Dale on attracting these 2 significant historic NZ Mustangs to the grid for the upcoming Festival. What a fantastic addition. I look forward to this and hope that we can attract a few more historic cars to our joint HMC/HSC grid. To the owners thank you in having trust in Dale and his team and we will treasure and respect your cars.
Cheers and Thanks
Bruce
Yes Bruce, imagine if John gets the Monaro going and Bruce turns up in the Pontiac and then Tony Auntonovich rocks along in the ex Marwood Camaro, yeah OK "slap slap" stop dreaming Daleboy

get yar hand off it!!
Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:32 am
by John McKechnie
Dale, Dale, Dale- there is no IF with the Monaro.
One bad choice cost me a year and a fistfull to get it right.
It will be there.
The cars you mention all have the possibility of being on the track together.
No comment on the unmentioned one(s).or your hand being on it.............assume you mean the stick shift
After all it was not that long ago people used to dream of seeing Sports Sedans running again.
Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 9:48 am
by GD66
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Freakin' awesome mate, and to see it roll out beside the Fleetwood car should bring a tear to the eye of any Red Dawson fan. He wasn't everyone's cup of tea by any means but he was very spectacular, a tough bugger and much loved in the crowd in spite of his less-than-effusive nature. For years a good solid rev-out of a motor was known as a "Red Dawson tune-up" to many and it was a shame to see his career wind up after that terrifying crash at Manfield. So big thanks to both owners and all involved in getting the two cars back out there.
Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:59 pm
by 928
John McKechnie wrote:Historic Sports Sedans didnt run at Puke due to the noise and not having the long back straight.
We have been offered a place at the next TACCOC meeting at Hampton Downs November 1 and we are inviting only HMC cars, to join us for a joint outing .
Should be a neat fit and this Historic Tintop outing should be a ton of fun.
John,
I understand not racing at Puke without the long straight but what exactly is the noise issue you mentioned please?
Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2015 8:40 pm
by ERC
For the last year or two, apparently there have been a couple of moaning locals (one of whom inherited their property) and they enforce a 95db noise reading TRACKSIDE, not at the boundary.
This has caught out a few people who had to either silence their cars further or go home. Sadly, 95db is not particularly loud and is a level that is enforced on road cars going through the LVVTA system, so you can imagine the problems with a race car. My V8 Magnette road car is exactly 95db at 3,000rpm.
The fact that open air music concerts can often be between 110db and 120db doesn't help. Most motorsport is done and dusted by 6pm anyway and we all know that a 12 minute race with 3 or maybe 4 races an hour, often with road cars that are relatively quiet, means that the noise is neither constant nor likely to ruin anyone's evenings or sleep, but there we are.
There is no such restriction at Hampton Downs and famously, Tony Roberts had a 24 hour monitoring at Hampton Downs and the loudest noise recorded was the dawn chorus of dickie birds at 6am, not the cars!
Hampton Downs apartment owners have a condition in their purchase agreements that they cannot object to either the noise on the track, the prison or the landfill.
Re: New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2015 12:12 am
by John McKechnie
928.......Sports Sedans dont have mufflers and therefore are loud
. TACCOC said that some cars even with mufflers were still excessive at recent events at Pukekohe.
HSS have never really planned on running at Puke, but are very grateful for TACCOCs offer to run at Hampton Downs which have no restrictions.
Simply put, no point in the guys spending a lot of money to maybe comply for only one day a year.