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Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:23 am
by ERC
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Google the number plate for this one...
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Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 9:25 pm
by ERC
Back to the slides...

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Low drag E Type at Shelsey 1967
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The fact that this next group is at Whenuapai but two without race numbers leads me to guess it was the Saturday practice before the Sunday meeting, possibly 1986? Any date confirmation would be appreciated.
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Sister car to the trailered car in #1382. The only 2 Volvo 3 litre cars in NZ, out of the 198 produced. Dave Walker's car now owned by Brian Jones. Always kept in nice condition.
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Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:57 pm
by Jac Mac
[color="#0000FF"]Somewhere around 84/86 should be right, Im going by the ex Fahey, Riley, Armstrong, McElrea Mustang which had been restored back to Fahey condition before it was sold on to Bowdens in OZ.[/color]

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2017 1:01 am
by ERC
Thanks Jac Mac. I have had to go back to several pics scanned earlier, once new info comes to light and rename them! Frustrating but also rewarding. I'm not a perfectionist by any stretch of the imagination, but I do like accuracy in filing!

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Ardmore 1989. How I wish I hadn't been restricted to just one marshal's post for the weekend.
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Ellerslie 1991.
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Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 12:22 am
by ERC
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Ardmore 1989
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Whenuapai 1991
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Stepson's crumpet puller...
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GTD Ford GT 40
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Real Ford GT40
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Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:12 am
by Milan Fistonic
It looks like some of these shots are from the 24 February 1985 meeting at Whenuapai.

The entry list should help you identify them.

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Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 4:27 am
by John H
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1WFZKcYH-uw who is this guy? very interesting anyhow.

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 6:13 am
by Dale Harvey
According to the comments below the video it's Jim Smith.
Dale.

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:07 am
by ERC
Thanks again Milan. That is a great help.

Not quite sure why the above has been posted in this thread...

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 11:26 am
by seaqnmac27
ERC wrote:Thanks again Milan. That is a great help.

Not quite sure why the above has been posted in this thread...


Ray, I would suggest you revisit post #1384 and Jac Mac's reply #1385

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 5:27 pm
by khyndart in CA
I found this article on the Phil Rudd Ford GT 40 and being prepared by Geoff Manning for the new owner at the time in 1990. Ted Rollason.
I can scan it in if anyone is interested. Where is this car P 1078 at today ?
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Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Sat Mar 04, 2017 7:30 pm
by Jac Mac
Sean, I think Ray was refering to the post 1389 by John H & 1390 by Dale in regard to thread relevance?

In Milan's programm post Rod McElrea is listed as driver in Mustang #104.

GT40 1078.. quick search on GT40's .com suggests that Claude Nahum, Switzerland is last known owner 2010, car is now painted Guardsman Blue. Claude also owns/races a MKII FE powered car in historic events.

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:28 am
by ERC
Thanks guys. Yes, the genuine GT40 was with Ted Rollason, great friends with the late Geoff Manning. (Looks like Geoff driving the GT40 in the NZ Car magazine cover?)

Spent some time with Ellerslie Car Show slides and as usual, a bit of detective work goes a long way.

One of the clues to road-going cars is the colour of the NZ rego sticker. Someone posted a link some time ago to an image with colours by year, but that only went up to about 1986.

Can anyone please list the NZ rego sticker colours (with years!) from then until they went to computer printed?

I'm wondering whether or not it is worth a thread, or even a website, that lists events by date? Maybe the Programme cover and entry lists too? I contacted the Ellerslie Concours organisers, but even Stan Edwards only has the years and not the exact dates. I can guess, as it was usually the second Sunday in February and never obviously clashed with Whenuapai. Some I know to be correct as I have my diaries.

For myself, the annual events are a great start but the various circuit events, year by year may be of use. I haven't got time to do it at the moment, but may well kick it off at some stage - unless someone else does.

In the days before transponders and when most race numbers were just allocated, it does make life a bit easier, especially when many drivers were regulars. It just takes time... However, non-competitive events such as shows, it is a bit more difficult. No, make that a lot more difficult.

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 3:32 am
by khyndart in CA
Yes Ray, that is Geoff Manning driving the GT 40 through the streets of Auckland about June 1990.
I can remember seeing this car parked by the store near the wharf in Omokoroa in 1990 as I think Phil Rudd lived near there at that time.
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(Ken Hyndman )

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 11:42 pm
by ERC
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I think, 1983
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Thompson junior
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Thompson senior
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Could be 1994
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Definitely Whenuapai 1994. Note that at that stage, marshalling contact was via the North Shore CB radio club!
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Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 1:20 am
by Milan Fistonic
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Definitely Whenuapai 1994. Note that at that stage, marshalling contact was via the North Shore CB radio club!
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Ray, did you change the colour of your car at some stage? The reason I ask is that in both the November 1994 and the February 1995 programmes your car is number 30 but the colour is listed as silver. You were again number 30 at the March 1997 meeting but colours are not listed in that programme.

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 1:35 am
by Paul Wilkinson
Ray bought a yellow Marcos off Richard Atkinson and painted it silver but that's a picture of a TVR....

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 1:59 am
by Milan Fistonic
Paul Wilkinson wrote:Ray bought a yellow Marcos off Richard Atkinson and painted it silver but that's a picture of a TVR....


That explains it. That's Rod Hemmings at the March 1994 meeting.

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:46 am
by ERC
Yes. It was originally tangerine when first built, September 1970, but Richard Atkinson painted both of his yellow. The other (the plywood Ford V6) was silver blue. Phil Foulkes now owns that car. Both might have been imported from the UK at the same time and there was some dispute over the actual years of build, but I have a copy of the original build papers so it was corrected on the system.

Both Rod Hemmings and I wanted number 30, (3.0 litre 3000M) so I can understand the confusion! When I restored mine, 1993/94, I had it painted silver and eventually went for number 70 on a permanent basis, which occasionally had to be 170, before transponders allowed the series numbers to be carried permanently. I think the early Hampton Downs Festivals, I had to run with 170 as they were not series rounds and preference was given to others.

The day before my 50th birthday I ran with 149...

As an aside, the GT40 was because it was 40" tall. I think the Marcos is 43" tall, but one's nether regions actually sit below the side chassis rails/sills, by a couple of inches making the seating extremely low - and they would not pass the police "4" from the floor test, as applied to the boy racer cars.

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:11 pm
by Steve Holmes
ERC wrote:Back to the slides...

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Low drag E Type at Shelsey 1967
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I am enjoying these photos so much Ray. Keep them coming.

This one in particular is just epic. These low drag E Types are such stunning cars. Although registered 738 EUT, this car is the former CUT 7 E Type, the famous Dick Protheroe lightweight. Protheroe ran three E Types using the CUT 7 registration at various times, but this was the only low drag version.

When this photo was taken it was likely owned by Mike Wright who used it a lot for doing hillclimbs.

This is the car as it looks today. You likely snapped pics of it during one of your Goodwood Revival visits Ray.

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