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Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 9:55 pm
by ERC
Classic case of pot calling the kettle black. This Bugatti T50 was just as large as a Bentley, if not larger.
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Silverstone test session , probably at the same time as Howard & the de Cadanet Lola. I think from memory this is a Brabham, but stand corrected.
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As you all love the Super Saloons as much as I do, no aplogies for this.
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I think this was the first time I had seen a Veritas. Wow! What a lovely noise.
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Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:23 pm
by seaqnmac27
Lella Lombardi British GP 1976 for the Brabham BT44B?

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:11 am
by ERC
seaqnmac27 wrote:Lella Lombardi British GP 1976 for the Brabham BT44B?

Many thanks for that.

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:18 am
by Grant Ellwood
seaqnmac27 wrote:Lella Lombardi British GP 1976 for the Brabham BT44B?

Crikey Sean, does your uncle Gordon know that you are so uncannily accurate with motorsport history?

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 12:31 am
by ERC
I can't reference Lella Lombardi's helmet from the pic - and the 1976 GP was at Brands Hatch. This was of course a Silverstone test session and definitely the RAM Brabham BT44B. Google works well but only up to a point as I have found out, as try as I might, I can't get some info particularly on some cars at some race meetings. Easy when you have a programme but even they are not 100% correct.

I curse every time I can't find a race programme to verify dates of pics taken, as occasionally, programmes were just lost on the day - or I was so impoverished that I couldn't afford one, preferring a hot dog instead! When you have a swag of pics taken on a specific day, they have to remain in the "still to be dated" folder until they can be confirmed. Thank goodness we were limited to two or three rolls of film a day, as these days, taking 400 - 500 a day is normal!

Maybe there is an opportunity to establish a website that has the entry lists, but as these days, that appears to be copyright, it might not be so easy. There is a great website for programme covers that I have managed to contribute to, which certainly may help some people - http://www.progcovers.com/motor/index.html

More diversity...

Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2012 11:49 pm
by ERC
Austin 1800 (Land Crab). Apparently so named that from the air, it looked like a crab crossing the desert. For some strange reason, the 1100/1300 and Maxi are often referred to, erroneously, as Land Crabs on some NZ message boards. Taken at Thruxton 1968.
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Goodwood Festival 2004 - digital pics this time. What makes this event so special is not just the action on the hillclimb, but the incredibly variety of cars elsewhere on the site. Cunningham. First time I had seen any Cunningham in the metal, even though I did have a Dinky Toy - up until early 2012 when much of my collection was sold off.
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Diversity also in the form of a Hot Rod display at Goodwood.
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I never collected Corgi diecasts but the Ecurie Ecosse Transporter is one I would have happily added to the collection. Taken at Goodwood Revival, 2009.
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The somewhat less impressive Elva van! Note the period refreshment van in the background. Sadly, prices were anything but period...
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Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:07 am
by ERC
Tony and Mrs Brooks at the ORMA dance 1965.
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'Enery Cooper, Barry Sheene an Nikki Lauda at the Silverstone GP 1977.
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People rather than cars this time

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:14 am
by ERC
Tony & Mrs Brooks at the ORMA dance 1965. I look forward to reading his recently released autobiography "Poetry In Motion".
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The Racing Car Show - my annual pilgrimage to the "The Smoke", January each year.
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Sir Tom Wheatcroft at the first post war car race meeting at Donington. The meeting nearly didn't go ahead due to last minute objections by local ramblers, so it was run as a "Trial". Unfortunately, it meant no single seaters could run. Fortunately, the NSCC (the organising Club) had a lawyer on the board and much time and effort was expended to make sure the meeting ran at all. Clearance was only received late Friday, by which time, many potential spectators feared the worst and cancelled their travel plans.
Sadly, the major sponsors, The Else Motor Group, Lotus dealers, lost a packet on the event and I believe they folded not too much later.
This was taken on the Historic Lotus Grid and Colin Chapman was around too. That race was won by Brian Cocks, Lotus 23 - using the oil cooler borrowed from my Mini, as he'd damaged his cooler!
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Later in 1977, Nikki Lauda being interviewed by Barry Sheene, with 'Enery Cooper looking on. Beatle George Harrison wasn't far away either. British GP 1977, Silverstone pit lane.
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Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 12:21 am
by Steve Holmes
These are amazing Ray!

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 12:25 am
by Steve Holmes
ERC wrote:
I never collected Corgi diecasts but the Ecurie Ecosse Transporter is one I would have happily added to the collection. Taken at Goodwood Revival, 2009.
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This is beautiful! It always intrigues me how old commercial vehicles manage to survive. Once past their use-by date, its not quite so easy to just push them into a corner of the shed and throw and cover over them as it is with an old car. Commercial vehicles, if not torn down when their careers have ended, are usually parked outside, where they get ravaged by the weather. Must be a huge undertaking to restore one of these.

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 12:49 am
by GD66
ERC wrote:I can't reference Lella Lombardi's helmet from the pic - and the 1976 GP was at Brands Hatch. This was of course a Silverstone test session and definitely the RAM Brabham BT44B. Google works well but only up to a point...

Maybe there is an opportunity to establish a website that has the entry lists, but as these days, that appears to be copyright, it might not be so easy.



http://en.espnf1.com/f1/motorsport/race/1661.html

This site's quite handy. :cool:

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:36 am
by ERC
Steve Holmes wrote:This is beautiful! It always intrigues me how old commercial vehicles manage to survive. Once past their use-by date, its not quite so easy to just push them into a corner of the shed and throw and cover over them as it is with an old car. Commercial vehicles, if not torn down when their careers have ended, are usually parked outside, where they get ravaged by the weather. Must be a huge undertaking to restore one of these.

Agree. I like old buses too, particularly the half cab type. I'll post one of the BRM Leyland transporter shortly. I remember visiting the BRM works at Bourne during a factory visit where my buddy and I clambered aboard. It was unlocked of course and somehow or other we hit the screen washer switch. They obviously put some meths into the screenwash...

F1 factory visits. Those were the days... Also managed the Hesketh HQ at one stage, as a passenger aboard a Lotus Elite Climax. Needed ear muffs in that car...

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:36 am
by ERC
Mallory Park again, but I think this might be Jock Russell's Lotus. In itself, nothing out of the ordinary, but it was painted metallic blue and yellow which looked smart, as did their Mini countryman, painted in the same colours!
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Peter Cox's smart Triumph GT6 at the Mallory petrol station. We used to have several Triumph Spitfires on our list (one has just resurfaced) but I can't remember anyone racing a GT6 locally. I much prefer the Mk1 shape to the later version.
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Berkeley 4 wheeler. Love it!!!
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4WD before it became popular. Bugatti of course. Goodwood Festival 1996 but getting a clear view of the track wasn't so easy so the majority of my pics were statics. Colour negative film rather than slides as slides were already on the decline by then.
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Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:46 am
by ERC
Goodwood 1996 again. The digital camera had just about arrived, but the quality of the images was just terrible! Fortunately, I still took good old negative roll film. The original Mk1 BRM V16.
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...and the Mk II. I much prefer the latter for looks, despite the scoops.
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Arguably, one of the most attractive GTs cars of the era - Project Aston Martin.
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Back to the transporter, the famous BRM Leyland Tiger as mentioned earlier. I think this was inside the Donington museum at one stage so I am not sure if Tom Wheatcroft owned it. He certainly owned an example of just about every BRM every made, including the V16. Digital pic from Goodwood Revival 2009
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Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:22 am
by Powder
ERC wrote:I can't reference Lella Lombardi's helmet from the pic - and the 1976 GP was at Brands Hatch. This was of course a Silverstone test session and definitely the RAM Brabham BT44B. Google works well but only up to a point as I have found out


Google 'Loris Kessel' for a match on the helmet.

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:48 am
by ERC
Brilliant! Thanks so much for that. Definitely puts that one to rest. Loris Kessel (someone I had never really heard of) probably trying the car, as he raced the number 32 Brabham later. Most impressed Powder!

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The Riley Moth taken at the Chelsea Climb last year

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:48 am
by Oldfart
How does one vote? Great photo

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 6:07 am
by Powder
ERC wrote:Please Vote! http://gallery.ten-tenths.com/showphoto.php/photo/2307

The Riley Moth taken at the Chelsea Climb last year


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Oldfart wrote:How does one vote? Great photo


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Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:20 pm
by Steve Holmes
Amazing photos! I'm really enjoying them. Agree re the Project 214, just a beautiful car. Too bad they didn't make a few for the road as well. That transporter is incredible. The level of styling that went into transporters in this era is so enjoyable. Its almost like there was a little competition going on behind the scenes to see who could design the best looking transporter.

Who owned the two BRMs?

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Posted: Thu Dec 06, 2012 8:38 pm
by ERC
My guess would be the National Motor Museum and Nick Mason. From memory, there were no less than 4 V16s entered but as I wasn't there for the whole event, I am not sure whether or not they all turned up.