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Re: Modified 70s and 80s Saloons - Picture Thread
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 2:20 am
by Jac Mac
Steve Holmes wrote:Re the Mustang speedway car, Bruce Boulton bought that car in the 90s, raced it as a 66 Mustang for a short time, then cut the body off and fitted a modern Mustang body. The Woods 66 fastback body was then buried in one of the Boultons farm paddocks. Too bad really, it was a genuine steel '66 fastback and a neat piece of speedway history that had somehow survived the 70s. There is a picture of the car when Bruce Bolton had it here:
http://www.boultonracing.com/Click on 'History', then '881 Bruce Boulton'.
This will get the excavators out then.... Woodsies Mustang was made from a GT Fastback that had spun out & rear ended a powerpole or tree. Now in order to build the car Woody found another fastback in the States which he cut in half & brought the rear half back with which to rebuild the shell, just in case he needed it he brought the front half back the following year ( there was some import rule at the time about parts versus whole cars that made this necessary at the time )..... so what you say,... the 'CAR' that they cut in half in the states was a genuine Shelby GT350 Fastback , most of the interior was stripped etc, but it came with the Hi-Po 289 & Alloy sebring ratio T10, I dont think we ever had to replace the GT front with the Shelby front during Peters time with the car which would have effectively re-united the Shelby shell halves, but we modded the spring towers pickup points as per the Shelby front anyway.
Re: Modified 70s and 80s Saloons - Picture Thread
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2011 11:58 pm
by Steve Holmes
Jac Mac wrote:The MKIV car is now owned by Anthony Prendergast-Ashburton- he also has my other MK2 Cortina car which he & Herbie Hayward? have rebuilt & I believe now have running for the OSCA 40th. Anthony currently has my photo album etc with old pics of both cars which as yet I have not picked up & since he now has the MKIV he might want for a bit longer. Dont know about the 'Drag Motor' that Rod may have used, but with Murray Baker/Ron Collet doing most of the engine work for Rod its possible that might have been the case. Rod was one of the 'original' HQ holden racers after OSCA & I also remember him pairing up with Steve Vigurs in a OSCA Capri for one of the Southern 200 races, unfortunately they were soundly beaten by a couple of other OSCA racers.
Thanks Jac, any chance we could get Anthony on here to share the restoration progress?
Re: Modified 70s and 80s Saloons - Picture Thread
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 12:00 am
by Steve Holmes
Jac Mac wrote:This will get the excavators out then.... Woodsies Mustang was made from a GT Fastback that had spun out & rear ended a powerpole or tree. Now in order to build the car Woody found another fastback in the States which he cut in half & brought the rear half back with which to rebuild the shell, just in case he needed it he brought the front half back the following year ( there was some import rule at the time about parts versus whole cars that made this necessary at the time )..... so what you say,... the 'CAR' that they cut in half in the states was a genuine Shelby GT350 Fastback , most of the interior was stripped etc, but it came with the Hi-Po 289 & Alloy sebring ratio T10, I dont think we ever had to replace the GT front with the Shelby front during Peters time with the car which would have effectively re-united the Shelby shell halves, but we modded the spring towers pickup points as per the Shelby front anyway.
Yeah I'd heard stories about a Shelby ending up on the speedway, wasn't sure how true they were. Its great you can confirm this. But yes, you're right, sounds like this is that car. Too bad the Boultons felt the need to bury it. They own a farm, so you wouldn't think they'd be short on space.
Re: Modified 70s and 80s Saloons - Picture Thread
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 1:50 am
by Jac Mac
Steve Holmes wrote:Thanks Jac, any chance we could get Anthony on here to share the restoration progress?
Not sure that Anthony is into this internet thing, I dont have email contact info for him..{ sometimes doubt I should be with my typin skills 
} I was emailed a heap of pics of the MK2, went looking for them last night, but must have lost them somewhere, I will have a look in Donnas PC tonite in case I saved them there as this one was out of action for a bit.
Re- the stock car body, it would be a massive mission now & since any VIN #s would probably have been on the front half threfore you would have to track that down if it even still exists....not for me, I like the replica stuff these days, at least the 'new' steel etc might last a bit longer..
Re: Modified 70s and 80s Saloons - Picture Thread
Posted: Tue Aug 16, 2011 11:14 pm
by Steve Holmes
The speedway car would have only been any good being restored as the Woods speedway car. Way too far gone to ever be a road car again. But now its too far gone to even be restored as a historic speedway car. One of the Boultons told me a few years ago that some speedway historic enthusiasts tried to dig up the remains, but there wasn't really anything salvageable.
Re: Modified 70s and 80s Saloons - Picture Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:53 am
by Jizim
The RX2 Mazda...(back on page 4 or 5 of this thread?...) belonged to Ross Morman. It had a small block chev in it....never really fired a shot. They always had a problem with it. Ross is currently owner/operater of the Shell Gas Station work shop at Kumeu. He worked for Gulf Mazda which was later to become North Shore Mazda. Rotary maestro Kevin Elmsley worked there since day one and still is as far as I know. (nicked named affectionately as Joe Ninety because of his close looks to the cartoon character...). And Jenny Mossman was a good fast racer in the days when it was a mans domain. She actually raced a Consul 315 that by memory had a 6 cylinder motor in it..(Holden?)...These were the days when Jim Short tried every trick in the book to beat me in my RX2 Mazda that had current registration and warrant of fitness....(spoke to Jim just two days ago when he rang me up for more driving tips...)... and I am sure he will be contibuting to this site after I burred him up!! Very nice guy that is Short by name and Shorter by nature! Kindest regards, Tony Rutherford.
Re: Modified 70s and 80s Saloons - Picture Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:00 am
by Steve Holmes
Thanks Tony. That V8 RX2 actually isn't a bad looking car, it just has a bit of a busy paint scheme. Do you know what happened to it?
The Mossman Consul is for sale, I think. I believe it is this car:
http://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/specialist-cars/competition-cars/auction-396640055.htm
Re: Modified 70s and 80s Saloons - Picture Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:05 am
by Rod Grimwood
That modified VW of Jim's was pretty quick and he drove it well also. Now there is another gentleman of the sport.
Ross had a secret weapon with the Mazda V8, if you got too close or tried to pass he would eject a piece of the car into your path, usually a piece of exhaust or bit of front air dam, remember Osborne had just passed me on front straight of Puke when he came upon a piece of exhaust slidding down the track, he swerves a bit but goes over it and then it exits at speed of sound out side of his Mazda RX7/V8 and pass's some how across the front of my car, brake a bit and move and whats left of exhaust powers into pit wall and back across track behind me. I looked in mirror and there are cars going every way and tyres smoke all the drama so it was a pretty effective weapon as it most probably caught out five of the eight on the straight.
Re: Modified 70s and 80s Saloons - Picture Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:14 am
by Steve Holmes
Ha ha ha ha ha, brilliant!
Re: Modified 70s and 80s Saloons - Picture Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 3:15 am
by Steve Holmes
Jizim wrote:The RX2 Mazda...(back on page 4 or 5 of this thread?...) belonged to Ross Morman. It had a small block chev in it....never really fired a shot. They always had a problem with it. Ross is currently owner/operater of the Shell Gas Station work shop at Kumeu. He worked for Gulf Mazda which was later to become North Shore Mazda. Rotary maestro Kevin Elmsley worked there since day one and still is as far as I know. (nicked named affectionately as Joe Ninety because of his close looks to the cartoon character...). And Jenny Mossman was a good fast racer in the days when it was a mans domain. She actually raced a Consul 315 that by memory had a 6 cylinder motor in it..(Holden?)...These were the days when Jim Short tried every trick in the book to beat me in my RX2 Mazda that had current registration and warrant of fitness....(spoke to Jim just two days ago when he rang me up for more driving tips...)... and I am sure he will be contibuting to this site after I burred him up!! Very nice guy that is Short by name and Shorter by nature! Kindest regards, Tony Rutherford.
Jim is a member here, though mostly seems to lurk in the shadows.....
Re: Modified 70s and 80s Saloons - Picture Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 5:36 am
by Rod Grimwood
Some things don't change Ah Steve. We need to put lights on and get rid of those shadows. Jim has a wealth of knowledge and in days gone past I would drop into the cycle and mower shop for a quick cuppa and then it was time to go home, another day of stressful work completed.
Re: Modified 70s and 80s Saloons - Picture Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 6:46 am
by AMCO72
Right, I know Jim very well. We go back a long way.....Jaguar Drivers club etc.etc,etc, But I can tell you that Jim is a talker rather than a writer. Someone needs to sit Jim down and get him talking about 'the good ol' days' and I can guarantee you will have hours of stuff to sift through. We get together occasionally, he is back living in Tokoroa, me in Cambridge. We can have a good old yak about stuff that some fellas out there think they know about, but DON'T. Enough said. Anyway at the moment Jim is probably restoring his kitchen or his bathroom, instead of concentrating on the important things in life.......like Historic Motorsport.
Re: Modified 70s and 80s Saloons - Picture Thread
Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 10:02 am
by TonyG
Thanks for that Tony. The pieces fit again. I could not remember for the life of me who raced that RX2 V8.
Re: Modified 70s and 80s Saloons - Picture Thread
Posted: Thu Aug 18, 2011 12:14 am
by Rod Grimwood
AMCO72:- So right he sure loves a tongue wag and as i mentioned previously a real gentleman and sure has some knowledge stored up. I used to enjoy the company of Jim and his dry humour. I can imagine it would be a couple of packets of bikkies and a big pot of tea when you 2 get together. I would love to make contact with him again.
Re: Modified 70s and 80s Saloons - Picture Thread
Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:48 am
by Jizim
Rod Grimwood wrote:AMCO72:- So right he sure loves a tongue wag and as i mentioned previously a real gentleman and sure has some knowledge stored up. I used to enjoy the company of Jim and his dry humour. I can imagine it would be a couple of packets of bikkies and a big pot of tea when you 2 get together. I would love to make contact with him again.
Come to my place Rod...I will bet he will be "lurking" in the background somewhere picking up driving tips etc... I too have just about finished my kitchen ( something very new to me)....I will move on to the bathroom when I fix the two leaks that have appeared out of nowhere ....I have extended an invitation to Jim to come and ride shot gun with me at any of the Puke or HD meets that arent National Championships....so I am hoping he will be about the tracks soon....
Re: Modified 70s and 80s Saloons - Picture Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:54 am
by TonyG
Who was it that used to race a Mk3 Cortina with Coachman Steakhouse written on it ? It was red in colour from memory Was it Bruce Bellis ? or a name like that.
I had a B&W pic somewhere here of it along with another of the Rhubarb sportscar at Puke but do you think I can find them now that I want them Grrrr!!!
Re: Modified 70s and 80s Saloons - Picture Thread
Posted: Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:06 pm
by kiwi285
Re: Modified 70s and 80s Saloons - Picture Thread
Posted: Sun Aug 21, 2011 12:05 am
by TonyG
Re: Modified 70s and 80s Saloons - Picture Thread
Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2011 5:43 am
by Rod Grimwood
Found this stacked away, love the angle.
Re: Modified 70s and 80s Saloons - Picture Thread
Posted: Wed Sep 07, 2011 10:56 am
by TonyG
There were 3 Algie brothers, Ian with the Alfetta, Barry with the Orange Monaro and another younger? brother that had a brown Monza. Any idea if the Monza is still around ?
I also remember a car that I saw at Puke a couple of times, I think around the time of the Petch BP Sierra Sports Sedan that was a little Suzuki ? and it had a Motorbike engine in it. Was like a bullet down the back straight but it kept throwing the chain drive off especially as it came over the top of the hill. Sorry can't even remember the colour, just the car because it was different.