Modified 70s and 80s Saloons - Picture Thread

[driftwood]

Thanks for the tip i can now see the wood from the trees
tomorrow while you lot sleep i will look to post some pics of interest to you and some that will keep Steve awake with anticipation !!

Im off to bed now so throw another dawn on your barbie and leave pint out in the sun for a few minutes for me

[Jac Mac]

[color="#0000FF"]Tony Strawson or something like that the name you trying to remember in relation to the first Mick Hill Capri?[/color]

[driftwood]

You might be right on The Strawb having the first Capri I'm sure he had the 2nd car before Birrane had it I will research it

going back to the UK Corvair that Ian Richards had Strawson raced that as his pal Gerry Marshall had bought it off Ian but i am not sure Strawb bought the Corvair
The Corvair was raced at Donington painted white by Martin?? DB Motors
The corvair had McLaren M8 suspension on it and later when all these sold 70's race cars became historic race cars the corvair was stripped of its running gear

[Steve Holmes]

Thanks Steve
its 11 pm here in pongoland quaffing wine munch on cheese n biscuits while i surf the web and have " arf" an eye on some crepe film on tv so while i munch n quaff you lot are having your morning tea break !

I am slowly working my way thru your forum titles of interest to me, I don't know a lot of kiwi racing but i am aware of some names of car owners from Autosport reports
as you like the pommie saloon cars look here for some cars and info also you can look up the pom website 10 tenths for special saloon threads
http://www.racing70s.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/racing70s/menus/carlistmenu.htm

regarding info on myself I'm not that exciting !
I have a very good memory and my father raced special saloons and donington GT series in the 70's and 80's before he went single seaters with F2 March and now has F1 cars
I raced Imp classic historic saloons after karting late 1980s which is how i came to NZ having been contacted by a kiwi on a UK biz trip who was building Imp for NZ hysterical racing.

Regarding posting photos hmm i will need to educate myself on that score !!
Re Mick Hills cars off top of my head and well before my time
1 Capri 1970 this car was sold to another guy so he could build a better car there is a youtube film of this car running round mallory park I also have a cutaway drawing and article from Motoring news i was sent by a UK 10 tenther and on this form is more info on his cars
2 the second capri was bigger n better i think built with a 5 litre motor this car was sold later to Martin Birrane now Lola cars owner circa 1975
3 he then built the VW beetle around F5000 running gear ran this for 2 or 3 seasons
4 Im sure he then built a Skoda with a 7.6 litre surtees can am engine around 1979/80 he race this car but it was burnt in a fire at his garage and he built another car calling it the Phoenix and ran this for a while then he sold this car to build car no 5
5 this was a lola T400 with BMW M1 body on to for Donington GT championship this car doesn't exist anymore as the T400 is now in auckland with Shane but i did visit a man near silverstone 5 -6 years ago who had the bodywork and the motor from the BMW M1 car

I think the Skoda Phoenix car could still exist but the special saloon GT thing started to die out around 1989 and by 91 it was all over as a national championship and really only Oulton Park had a series running and I sold my father lotus Esprit for him end of 89 season so I stopped following what was going on.

Mmmmm, the wine, cheese and biscuits sounds nice!

Thanks for posting that racing 70s link through. I stumbled upon this site a couple of years ago, I think through 10-tenths, but haven't been able to find it again! I am particularly interested in the first V8 Capri of Mick Hill which later became the Tony Strawson car, and which I think might have later become the George Potter car: http://www.racing70s.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/racing70s/Fordcars/capri_01.htm Interesting that the motor of this car is listed as 7.6 litres, but the description is that it is an ex F5000 motor.

Another that interests me is the Chris Meek Capri: http://www.racing70s.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/racing70s/Fordcars/capri_03.htm

I assume the Capri Martin Birrane raced replaced his '70 Mustang?

[driftwood]

Free lesson UK Capris before i hit the sack the next lesson will cost you a war beer !!
Mick Hill Mk1 not sure if Strawb has this car
Mk2 5 litre V8 I'm sure this is Strawson then Birrane and Tony Rosen
Colin Hawker with DFV sold to Doug Niven in scotland and DFV fitted to the DFVW. Later the Capri is sold down south to Gary Charlwood circa 82 who installs V12 Jag motor car is said by Gary to be sold to a guy in my town who put it onto the road circa 87

Vince Woodman raced a pukka Cologne Gp 2 capri in the 70's and still retains to day
There was a Thunderslaoon Capri that raced circa 86 ish with GAA in it I'm sure built by Gartrac ( the rally people built escorts) this was terry Nicholls car but I'm not sure what happened to it

George "welly" Potter has a big engined capri late 70's before he built his 7 litre centre seat Esprit its possible this could be ex Mick Hill car

[Steve Holmes]

You might be right on The Strawb having the first Capri I'm sure he had the 2nd car before Birrane had it I will research it

going back to the UK Corvair that Ian Richards had Strawson raced that as his pal Gerry Marshall had bought it off Ian but i am not sure Strawb bought the Corvair
The Corvair was raced at Donington painted white by Martin?? DB Motors
The corvair had McLaren M8 suspension on it and later when all these sold 70's race cars became historic race cars the corvair was stripped of its running gear

Did the Corvair body/chassis survive?

[Steve Holmes]

post 171 Youtube is Finland special saloon race there is a longer film of the race
I have 1 of the BMW 320 DRM gp 5 cars in my garage that i will get round to restoring to race when i have some money/sold off some of my many other cars , F1 F3000 engines FTFGB gearboxes to get the funds

the BMW M1 is powered by a BMW f1 turbo engine and the car still exists today i saw youtube footage the other day
also in Japan they had a similar car running there 1982 ish but with 6 cyl motor again there is youtube footage of it racing in period and at historic festival in 07 09

Your DRM BMW definitely deserves a thread of its own. What is the history of your car? Have you seen the thread here on the Zakspeed Escort: http://www.theroaringseason.com/showthread.php?375-Zakspeed-Escort-Gp5&highlight=zakspeed

[driftwood]

Free lesson UK Capris before i hit the sack the next lesson will cost you a war beer !!
Mick Hill Mk1 not sure if Strawb has this car or if it was Bill Cox
Mk2 5 litre V8 I'm sure this is Strawson then Birrane and Tony Rosen
Colin Hawker with DFV sold to Doug Niven in scotland and DFV fitted to the DFVW. Later the Capri is sold down south to Gary Charlwood circa 82 who installs V12 Jag motor car is said by Gary to be sold to a guy in my town who put it onto the road circa 87

Vince Woodman raced a pukka Cologne Gp 2 capri in the 70's and still retains to day
There was a Thunderslaoon Capri that raced circa 86 ish with GAA in it I'm sure built by Gartrac ( the rally people built escorts) this was terry Nicholls car but I'm not sure what happened to it

George "welly" Potter has a big engined capri mid 70's before he built his 7 litre centre seat Esprit its possible this could be ex Bill Coxl car

[driftwood]

Steve you may want to delete my double postings I'm not sure if my wireless broadband is coming from NZ as i seem to have a delay in hitting the post NOW button nowt happens then i do it again and by then its on twice and you have replied in between
i leave you space to do some editing whilst i get my beauty sleep and respond as follows to your postings

1 My DRM Group 5 car
When i was young i recall seeing Ronnie Eddie Marc in works cars at Brands 6 hours in the Bimmers and always fancied one but never my must have dream car. I knew of a guy near me who had some bimmers in his workshop and after a coil of years i had some $ so i asked that stupid question "do you wanna sell?" so 48 hrs later my big mouth and empty wallet later i had a car in my "museum"
The car is a privateer car built off the works car that Cheever crashed in quail at R1 of DRM Zolder 77 the wreck was sold to Gustav Fisher and he built up his car for 78 season
he sold the car at end of the year to Gerd Reiss who raced it once or twice then it sat for 2 years till swede Keneth Leim buys it to contest WCM events in 82 silverstone Spa monza as he couldn't fond a porsche 935 to race
Car is sold to his co drivers son who races it locally and in Finland then the car is sold to 2 or 3 there Fins to race thru the 80's and early 90's then car is retired and then comes to UK
There were 3 Gp 5 BMW cars in Finland racing in the 80's

2 Zakspeed car yes im aware of it I know Leif Norberg in sweden nd he owns fit in Malayasia back in the 80's car has now been restored nicely

3 Im not 100% sure of the 70's website data it is inaccurate on some cars Doug Niven car is Colin Hawkers DFV car NOT Mick Hill
Meeks car is not Hill car he had the $$ to build his own cars I'm sure this capri is sold to1 of the other capri racers
Im sure the Mick Hill mk2 car is Birrane/Rosen car i need to see more photos of all the cars to compare but the Strawb car is puzzling a sim sure somewhere the Cox Potter cars are linked too its late I'm tired to keep popping to n fro the photo pages

[driftwood]

Corvair body survive?
allegedly but as a bare entity now I'm sure 10 tenths thread has it still with Matin at DB motors

[Steve Holmes]

Free lesson UK Capris before i hit the sack the next lesson will cost you a war beer !!
Mick Hill Mk1 not sure if Strawb has this car
Mk2 5 litre V8 I'm sure this is Strawson then Birrane and Tony Rosen
Colin Hawker with DFV sold to Doug Niven in scotland and DFV fitted to the DFVW. Later the Capri is sold down south to Gary Charlwood circa 82 who installs V12 Jag motor car is said by Gary to be sold to a guy in my town who put it onto the road circa 87

Vince Woodman raced a pukka Cologne Gp 2 capri in the 70's and still retains to day
There was a Thunderslaoon Capri that raced circa 86 ish with GAA in it I'm sure built by Gartrac ( the rally people built escorts) this was terry Nicholls car but I'm not sure what happened to it

George "welly" Potter has a big engined capri late 70's before he built his 7 litre centre seat Esprit its possible this could be ex Mick Hill car

Yes, no problem re the warm beer! In fact, we had some relatives stay with us just recently from the UK. My partner Helen is originally from Sidmouth, hence the reason we visit the UK quite regularly and lived there for a couple of years in the 90s. I do miss the pubs. Our relatives claim you get more flavour when the beer is warm.

Thanks for the info on the Capri's. I need to examine those photos more closely. Looks like some interesting connections between them. Sounds like quite a few of them have survived. Do you know if the Chris Meek or Gorge Potter cars still exist?

[Racebred]

A mate from Oz owns this super Historic Torana.
It was the 1st HDT Torana which has had some very famous Drivers behind its wheel and raced at some very historic events including Bathurst (misfire problems), Sandown (2nd from Moffat), and it did a couple of 1971 ATCC races before it was turned into Colin Bonds winning Rally car.
After a successful season and 45,000 miles of racing Peter Janson bought the car and replaced the old 186 with a fresh 202 but also had to change the grill and rear panels to make it an LJ to keep it in the production class. In 1972 with 75,000 race miles it had an affectionate nickname which refered to the miles it had covered, Saggy Sarah.

It has been fully restored back into its later Sports Sedan HDT livery and is raced regularly, Laz kept some of its old war paint and it shows well over 20 colours in the one place. I have a great liking of this model Torana and own a very quick 202 powered LC

[Rod Grimwood]

That is history, does it still run 186-supercharged and is it as shown in second photo (with Commodore)

[bry3500]

That is history, does it still run 186-supercharged and is it as shown in second photo (with Commodore)

Yes. still runs a supercharger Rod

[bry3500]

[video=youtube;a5a7fXwJ72U]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5a7fXwJ72U&feature=related[/video]

[Racebred]

That is history, does it still run 186-supercharged and is it as shown in second photo (with Commodore)

202 in it at present and the original Wade supercharger was off the Brock LC XU-1 Rally-X car nicknamed 'The Beast' but it was worn out and replaced with a Godfrey unit before Laz got it, the original brackets were still being used. The body of the beast was totally shagged and dumped so the stuff was just lying around in the HDT workshop so they decided to use it.

It running forged pistons and 8.1 comp using an original XU-1 '72 head with some extras, Dyno'd at 340hp @ flywheel and just on 400 ft/lbs torque on 9lb and I was told that the ex HDT guys reckon it sounds just like the old Beast

The pic with the Commodore in it was taken 27 years after it last saw Sandown

[video=youtube;1yGZQ4eQeTs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yGZQ4eQeTs[/video]

[bry3500]

[video=youtube;h9eCyJeguEQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9eCyJeguEQ&feature=related[/video]

[bry3500]

[video=youtube;5-oQ_hilic8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-oQ_hilic8[/video]

[Rod Grimwood]

The mentioned 'Beast' Driven by Brock and Bond, was just what it was called.

[bry3500]

If you look at racebreds pictures of the roof , you can see where the paintwork has been rubbed pack to reveal the layers of history...very tastefully done..The yellow is very evident