Lost Race Cars

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Not really mate, we sat on the outside of the Rothmans sweeper one practice day for a Bay Park meeting and Pennington did LOTS of laps and understeered ALL day, much to our intrigue. Lovely car, and a good pedaller too I reckon.
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A couple of older Pukekohe photos - Red Dawson, John Riley and John Curtis among others :
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A bit of chaos on the opening lap after Alwyn Marshall spun in the Lotus Cortina. Ivan Cranch goes through in the Consul Jaguar and Colin Lumsden takes avoiding action in the DeSoto.

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Just to fit in with the thread's theme I suppose most of these cars are now lost - except for the Lotus Cortina which has probably turned into three "genuine" period cars :confused:
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RogerH wrote:A.

Just to fit in with the thread's theme I suppose most of these cars are now lost - except for the Lotus Cortina which has probably turned into three "genuine" period cars :confused:


Roger I believe the Marshall Lotus Cortina still exists down in Tauranga,the 57 Anglia I think is Bryan Faloon and if so I believe that car still exists down in the Manawatu area Alwyn Marshall was a brillant engineer and made up a few good bits along the way for that car
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Thanks Bob - good to hear that a couple of these cars have survived and the Cortina has not morphed into more than one version. Here is the "before" photo of Alwyn Marshall spinning with most of the pack behind him.
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OK, so here is a bit of a curve-ball. David Howes raced this phenominal AMC Javelin in the 1972 and '73 British Saloon Car Championship. Unlike the American Trans-Am Javelins, which were limited to 5,000cc, the engine in Howes Javelin was out to 6,390cc. It was also fitted with much wider wheels, I'd say 15" wide in the rear. The BTCC Group 2 regulations were far more relaxed than those of the Trans-Am.

The Javelin suffered a serious of reliability issues in the '72 season, but managed to notch up several top 10 results. Then in '73, was much closer to the pace, and finished an excellent 2nd in the Saloon car support race at the '73 Silverstone Grand Prix event, behind Frank Gardners SCA Camaro, according to Frank de Jongs excellent website: http://www.touringcarracing.net/

Then the Javelin appears to have vanished.

Does anyone know anything about this car? Was it built in the UK, or was it a Trans-Am car fitted with the larger engine? Does it still exist?
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Terry Allans amazing big block Camaro, when advertised for sale in late 1970, but has since vanished. What happened to it?

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Hello, just joined this site. amazing. I was helping out Steve in those days and doing a little bit of Waikaraka Park (drove Capri after Rod had finished with it). Steve Millen drove the Escort when John Scott owned it painted white and i can recall the first time he drove it he found out what real bump steer was. John sold it too Ian Knight who changed colour to red and ran car for a while. Sorry but that is a far as i can recall its history.
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Rod, its great to have you here, will look forward to your contributions.

Is this the Fuller Escort you're referring to? Do you have any info on the engine etc they were running? I believe Warren Steel sold it as a roller. Any photos of it at any stage of its career?
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Hi Steve, This a great site. Yes I am talking about the Fuller Escort when John Scott owned it. And John Scott with his father Ash did have a truck and contracting business in Mt Wellington. I ran into John a few years ago and think i have contact for him somewhere. I don't have any photos but recall the car well and John Scott testing the car at Pukekohe and saying it was scary and asking Steve to test it and the look on Steves face after a couple of laps. We did a bit to the suspension and got it to handle a bit better, but weight was hard to work around in those days. I think John had fitted a Chev 283 for 4.5 class and Ray Chatfield was looking after it. There is another clever fabricator.
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Thanks Rod, that is some great info. Do you recall roughly when John owned it, and how long he had it for? And roughly when was it sold to Ian Knight?
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Will do some research.
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Not sure how many "Lost " ones here Late 80's Pukekohe Club Circuit

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This was a Club meeting late 80s,on the club circuit ,with some of the cars ready to go out for a practice session The mk 1 Escort with the big flares was Rod Bergren (he gave me this photo ) Grimmy might remenber who some of the others are
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This was a Club meeting late 80s,on the club circuit ,with some of the cars ready to go out for a practice session The mk 1 Escort with the big flares was Rod Bergren (he gave me this photo ) Grimmy might remenber who some of the others are



The said Mr Knight was in the Corvette know that. And a short fast fella in the neat little Escort on pole.
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This one is still around but I believe that it is used as a road car now (Ray Larsen)
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Does anyone know what happened to this Galaxi. Photographed at Pukekohe
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Fairlane, in fact. And that Jag doesn't look quite the same as it did after disappearing backwards through the fence at BayPark's Beach hairpin...
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kiwi285 wrote:Image

Does anyone know what happened to this Galaxi. Photographed at Pukekohe

[color="blue"]Yes, it was burnt in a car shed fire near Invercargill, then bought as an insurance write off by PJW @ Charlton Auto Ltd, & the shell later buried in the yard when additional land was aquired from NZR & filled. The main case from the top loader was put to good use to repair one I bought in from the USA with a cracked case & missing mount lugs, I also rebuilt & used the front rotors & calipers for use on both my OSCA Cortina race cars.[/color]
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GD66 wrote:Fairlane, in fact. And that Jag doesn't look quite the same as it did after disappearing backwards through the fence at BayPark's Beach hairpin...


A scan of my photo from NZ Hot Rod.

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Sports car race at Puke with Scott Wiseman's Jag - who was the Honda in the bottom photo?
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I think it was David Slater.

#25 : Baron Robertson in the Heron ?
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