Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

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Martin Brundle

Note the windscreens. Rowan Atkinson's car on the right has a one piece screen

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Friday:

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Sunday:

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Sadly, another from the Whitsun Trophy practice, reinforcing my comment that you will see far more cars on track Friday than any other day, even allowing for more track sessions.

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One of my absolute favourite categories - 50's sports or sports racing cars. Tojeiro Jaguar

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Great photo as always ERC,

Interested in this group photo of " Production Saloons " at Goodwood - all from the late 1950's early 1960's and appear not to have Roll Cages.
Allan Dick was recently lamenting that these cars in New Zealand, are not seen without all the " modern " safety features.

Would be interested to know the Rules for the class of racing.

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Roger, you ask about the rules for the saloons. As I now supply several of them with product I asked that a while back. There is no simple answer, it depends on which events you want to run.
FIA rules for example on an A40 has to run lever arm rear shocks as that's what they had. Goodwood cars are allowed more latitude. Some series specify the tyre, others only the size. A number of my clients have multiple cars so that they can participate in several categories.
I can see cages in all those cars, just not the jungle gym that MSNZ specifies in their need to be better than what the rest of the world under FIA accepts. Diagonal is visible n both the A35 and Zephyr.
High back seats are visible too. Driver safety is a very important thing in this part of the world.

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Thanks Rhys. I have always maintained that safety is the responsibility of the driver, so MSNZ's attitude isn't conducive to getting more cars on track. Applies also to rules regarding protective clothing.

Those pics from the Pre 1958 St Mary's Trophy saloons means a great variety of cars and the occasional roll over hasn't to the best of my knowledge, ever resulted in a serious injury, with or without a cage. The cars are steel bodied, not space frames with fibreglass panels, but MSNZ doesn't accept that as a valid reason for a different requirement for a cage. Yet, ironically, you can still run a standard car in NZ without a cage, regardless of its performance, but modify even an A35, and the rules change.

Rare AC Barchetta

Awkward design features - especially the rear?

[Roger Dowding]

Roger, you ask about the rules for the saloons. As I now supply several of them with product I asked that a while back. There is no simple answer, it depends on which events you want to run.
FIA rules for example on an A40 has to run lever arm rear shocks as that's what they had. Goodwood cars are allowed more latitude. Some series specify the tyre, others only the size. A number of my clients have multiple cars so that they can participate in several categories.
I can see cages in all those cars, just not the jungle gym that MSNZ specifies in their need to be better than what the rest of the world under FIA accepts. Diagonal is visible n both the A35 and Zephyr.
High back seats are visible too. Driver safety is a very important thing in this part of the world.

" Those pics from the Pre 1958 St Mary's Trophy saloons means a great variety of cars and the occasional roll over hasn't to the best of my knowledge, ever resulted in a serious injury, with or without a cage. The cars are steel bodied, not space frames with fibreglass panels, but MSNZ doesn't accept that as a valid reason for a different requirement for a cage. Yet, ironically, you can still run a standard car in NZ without a cage, regardless of its performance, but modify even an A35, and the rules change.
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Thanks, Rhys and Ray,
I couldn't pick up the roll bars, and as said probably used to the " extreme " Cages applied to Sports Cars in the USA and in New Zealand.
" Yet, ironically, you can still run a standard car in NZ without a cage,"
I am out of touch.

Appreciate the information.

Thanks again
Roger

PS ERC, the 100S photo - with another Healey " 3000 " and an MGB in the background - RWD323 is well known, must go and look it up.
" Borrowing the photo.
Cheers
R

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Seems that there are no more 'Caffeine & Classics' for Smales Farm. Shame. One of the best ever monthly events and usually a huge turnout. Conveniently close just ten minutes from home. Many thanks to Protecta Insurance though. A golden opportunity for someone else to pick it up?

Major Arthur Mallock would be so proud - Ray Mallock. For those of us old enough to remember Formula Junior in period, the Mallock always looked a bit out of place amongst the more traditional racing car offerings from Lola, Cooper, Lotus and the Italian makes.

The Alex Buncombe/Jensen Button Cobra. Entrant: Racing Snakes...

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Yet another Whitsun Trophy car needing some assistance.

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Richard Attwood

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Should really be at Pukekohe today, but the restrictions under our current setting didn't make it an attractive proposition

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Saw an early Porsche coupe on the road yesterday. First one seen for over 20 years. When we lived in ChCh a neighbour had a TD and a early Porsche walled in under theur haouse. The quakes brought them out.