Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

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Very impressed with the interior of this this new Fraser.

[Spgeti]

Yes, up early as the block layers were working on a wall at just after 7am so I had to be up.

It's an interesting one Bruce, and where I fell out with the system. The Riley Elf and Wolseley Hornet never came out with anything other than a 998cc, single carb engine as you well know. Transplanting a period 1275cc or even a 1320cc Cooper S engine is a straight swap, and no doubt was done in period.

The local system is such that it is OK to stuff a V8 Ford engine into a Capri and call it a Perana or a Twin Cam engine into a Cortina, or even a Ford V8 into an Escort because it WAS done in period.

The Late Jim's Wolseley 1500 ran a 1950cc crossflow head as it was a modification that COULD have been done in period, but to the best of my knowledge, only ever raced in period with a 1500cc (+rebore) but not the 1800cc MGB engines.

Equally, you can construct a single seater out of period bits and call it a special and it is accepted.

However. you can't build a saloon out of period bits and call it a special. It is an anomaly as it COULD have been done in period. Yet we have people sticking 700bhp engines into cars that never had anywhere near that sort of horsepower in period.

Funny old world.

I actual have had the privilege to view Jim’s COD and it would be one of the most complete COD’s I have witnessed with all details given as it should be.
He built the car in 1974 and it states that it was to replicate the period of Allcomers from the mid 60’s.
I know there is a lot of scepticism re the COD for this car considering Jim was a member of the then Commission....
However he does use “period” parts in the build of the car including the Derrington Head which near on a 1000 were cast in the mid to late 50’s for use on the B series engine.
I am personally glad the car still survives and is owned by an enthusiast who I know will keep it as it was.

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The real joy of Caffeine and Classics is that every month, there are cars/vehicles I haven't seen before.

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I went along to the MGCC Autocross Sunday, Colin Dale Motorsport Park. Start time was moved later as bad weather was expected earlier. That may have put people off and combined with the road works on 20b, making access difficult, not many entrants, but interesting to note that the grass was so long, the ground so firm, that for the time I was there, they never got through the grass to any dirt!

Club Captain, Paul Walbran laying out the course in 'Joseph', possibly one of the most famous MG's in the country, and the last 'B' to compete in a World rally Championship.

Den Williams has swapped the 8 MG 8 plates from the Maestro Turbo (which he still has), to this one.

[khyndart in CA]

I guess my 1962 Austin Mini Cooper would look out of place amongst some of these Minis (or part Mini) at Caffeine and Classics gatherings.
To prove mine has not been thrashed or done too many hand-brake turns, it still has the original rear brake drums after 58 years !
(Note the date in raised numbers. (19-1- 62) The car was assembled in Feb. 1962. (A bit rusty like the owner.)

(Ken H.. )

[Allan]

970, 997, 998, 1071, 1275 or 1293 ?

[Roger Dowding]

970, 997, 998, 1071, 1275 or 1293 ?

Allan, many forget the " 1071 " Cooper S, used when there was a 0 - 1100cc class - the " 970 " for 0-1000, and big motors for the 1001- 1300 class..
997 and 998 were of course Cooper, not Cooper S.

My good friend, the late Nell Holdstock / Donaldson had a 997 long stroke Cooper, from memory also a 1962 model, here in NZ,as well as her 1961/62 Austin Healey 3000 Tri-carb which she brought from Canada in the 1980's - Healey is still here, Unsure what happened to the Cooper.

Here is Nell, with BMC BOY, looking at the Cooper Formula Junior single seater that Nell owned but sold to Ross BMC BOY many years ago, It is being rebuilt/restored. The Historic Formula Junior recently did a Garage Crawl looking at projects under way.

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Spent some time with Nell when flag marshalling, probably Whenuapai and Pukekohe. Lovely lady.

Ken, the joy of Caffeine and Classics is that there is zero snobbery. The mix, as you may have gathered from the many pics published on this site, varies from the pure to the outright bonkers, rare or one offs, to common.

European, American, Japanese, commercials, motorbikes, even Karts. It is exactly what it appears to be. A monthly meeting place for car enthusiasts. Your car would be very welcome and the Mini turnout also covers the mint and original, to the bonkers! (See #3665)

Just for a change, a run of replicas - some almost impossible to tell they are replicas and others are loosely based on another car. This also covers re-creations. (Recreations?) I failed English at school.

[khyndart in CA]

970, 997, 998, 1071, 1275 or 1293 ?

Allan,
In 1962 the 997 cc engine was the only version in Mini Coopers.
Then other sizes came later. The 1071 and 998 in 1963. The 970 and 1275 in 1964.

My car now has a 1986 998 cc engine with a gearbox that goes into 1st while still moving and brake pads that are bigger than a
matchbox ! Also it has a different paint scheme from Tartan Red / Black to Audi Racing Green / White.

Ken H

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Continuing the replicas, re-creations and specials

Hamilton Street race meeting

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November Caffeine and Classics, despite the Beach Hop as a distraction, and the grubby weather, still a healthy turnout, but about half the usual, with no need for the overflow car parks.

Several groups were there in considerable numbers, including Lotus, Early Holden, Ford Cortinas and Corsairs, plus a large group of Italian cars, mainly Alfas. As always, cars I hadn't seen there before and several catch ups with other enthusiasts.

[Roger Dowding]

C and C November.

ERC is the Ford obscured far right a Convertible Mark Two Cortina ?- Crayford perhaps ??.
Your photo.

Found the answer - John Vevers photo - there were 8 Corsairs there as Ray would have seen - Didn't think there were that many in NZ - some recent imports by the Rego's

" Year: 1968
Make: FORD
Model: CORTINA
Colour: SILVER
Submodel: MARK 2
Body Style: Convertible
VIN: 7A86G190709546206
Plate: EWS370
Engine No: HG30746
Chassis: BA92HG30746 "

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Jaguar replicas and specials

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More replicas, kits etc.

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but wait, there's more...

I do get a bit miffed when a recreation isn't noted as such in a race programme. This is a classic case. Some of the Leadfoot entrants are also guilty of supplying slightly misleading information for the programme. Don't get me wrong, it is brilliant seeing cars like this or a sharknose 1961 Ferrari, but a bit of up front honesty wouldn't go amiss. Apparently there is even talk of a couple more V16 BRMs. No one is ever going to complain about hearing one of those on full song!

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ERC,
have a look at the nostalgia forum, on there they are saying that Hall & Hall are working with one of the owen family to build 3 v16 BRMs is this the start of another F250 saga i wonder.

[Remi110984]

Great to see all those cars through your photos. Thanks!
You can read more about the BRM recreation here:
https://www.goodwood.com/grr/race/historic/2020/11/you-can-buy-a-new-v16-brm-f1-car/

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Well, I have booked and paid for my flights to do Goodwood in 2021 so hopefully, there will be at least one V16 running. I have only ever seen one running, way back in 2000. I am also in touch with the Bourne Museum and have arranged a private viewing on the Tuesday before Goodwood - assuming of course that the Goodwood date is the usual one, otherwise I'll have some major reshuffling to do....


PS: Just found out the dates have been announced. Revival is one week later than expected (September 17th to 19th) so I do indeed have to reshuffle everything.

Managed to get the Bognor Regis Premier Inn sorted, so it is now over to my travel agent to change the flights.

Ho hum. So much for planning early.

PPS: The flight back from LAX to AKL now $700 more than I'd paid...

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Groups and grids

2003 Taupo

2010 Hampton Downs

2010 Chelsea

2012 Monaco
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1970 Mallory - some rarities there!

January 2003 - Tracer & Leisuretime (now ERC) racers. I currently own two of the front row. The MGB and the Marcos.

2007
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2016 ladies