Dunedin Street Races - revival meeting January 1984

[Milan Fistonic]

so was this a one off meeting in 1984 or part of a new wave of meetings please folks?

I have programmes for meetings in 1992,1995, 1996 and 1998.

[stubuchanan]

[quote="Roger Dowding"]



another corner with a Morgan in the sandbank while a couple of 500cc single seaters and a Cooper go past.

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Unusual to see Railway Station Tower in Dunedin road race photos. The sandbank seems to have been a fixture at all Wharf Circuit races; probably the only place on the track where cars were likely to hit a building. The building by the Morgan perched on the sandbank looks like a former pub on Google Street View - has a door exactly on the corner of Tewsley St where the cars turned right and back towards start/finish. Maybe that's one of the patrons leaning on the upstairs window sill.
Other years the track turned right towards railway and then left along Thomas Burns St.

Could car 14 be Merv Neil in the Cooper Climax he had just bought from Brabham?

Stu

[Roger Dowding]

This from " Dunedin Photo Review " - which must be like the Town Photo News publications like " Nelson Photo News ".

Graham Woods found this piece and the source led me to a Website on Museums of New Zealand.
I could not find the actual Magazine on the site.

Map of the Track 1959 and details of the event. from OSCC Wheelspin Magazine - courtesy Graham Woods.

Must get back to the Jim Bennett story and his FURI cars. its been a while.

[Roger Dowding]

Watched a Doco on TV3 CRC Motorsport about the 60th Anniversay meeting at Waimate - for the Waimate 50,the programme from 2019 was a replay but had been edited with a Tribute to Clark Proctor at the end.
The cars were great - a few favourites -
- the Lycoming Special,the Stanton Corvette, the recreation of the John Miler Dauphine Corvette and one of the Guys they interviewed was Joss Timms who raced there in 1959, and in an Austin Healey too - Joss later had the ex Fred Lossee Austin Healey 100S.
Well worth another look ..

[Roger Dowding]

wrote this comment a couple of years ago on this thread;
" Further to September 2018 - Am going to use this thread for photos and news that doesn't fit into the Austin Healey or Northern Sports Car Club thread- will cover Specials and other events I come across that should be shared..
Roger 17th December 2018 ".

Have gathered more photos from Matamata, Waharoa Mt Maunganui, Northland events and was thinking of a new thread but -perhaps I should get this one renamed and used for " Lost Events " " Specials " that as mentioned don't fit with the AH or NSCC stories.
Also somewhere to put photos from Caffeine and Classics, Greerton Vintage Fayre and other shows I get to

Best get Steve Holmes or his Admin guys to retitle the thread - the photos don't really fit with lost race tracks !

--- " Dunedin 1984, other events, Lost Events and Specials and Shows "

perhaps.

Have started to post the Matamata photos on this thread and will follow with the Waharoa Grass Track races too !!

[Roger Dowding]

The Scott - Given archive photo's - apparently the negatives were with Kenny Smith who gave them to Myles Hicks as he has the " Ruddspeed 3000 " Austin Healey, which was the Austin 4000 Healey by the time of the Matamata events. Car #34 in an entry list I have and #28 in the photographs

Here are the first set. #31 - #37 [ #34 missing ? ]

Saloon Cars - the Start
Front row - Anglia #44, #71 Mini, #85 Anglia
Second row - Mini and Mini
Then Anglia Mini A40 and at the back, Mini and A40 ?

Sports cars - the Start - under the Bardahl Banner.

Ford Consul 315 - Classic #36 D Jurie

Zephyr, De Soto Colin Lumsden and a couple of Anglias - Cleaver Motors corner - where Alan Boyle took his photos - photos to follow

Small capacity Saloons the start A40 Devon and VW in front - under the Bardahl Banner - 1965 as look like new plates Aluminium letters Black background !

Humber 80, Fiat 1500, Anglia and Mini - Cleaver Motors corner [ says Hillman on the photo now corrected on the original scan ].

Photos may be from different years as Start Line is different - see first two photos.
The Daimler in photo 2 stated as Trevor Sheffield - I need to verify this.

Will add details later as cars are identified from entry lists and note the year of the race(s) - have added some detail today 22/08/2020

More to come [ around another dozen - plus a couple more pages of entry lists from Keiron Guinness - who still lives in Matamata. He and his family were neighbours of my nephew who now lives in Brisbane - that small world again.

Reposting the Alan Boyle photos too - Alan was in the Showroom of Cleaver Motors.

Details added from comments recently by Rhys " Oldfart " and Kevin Hirst - whose Uncle took the photos as we have now discovered.

[Oldfart]

My memory is playing games, the first photo is in Broadway, and I don't remember a start line there at all. As usual could be wrong, but perhaps a dummy grid, as it's not too far from the pits exit?
Colin Lumsden in the often mentioned De Soto behind the #35 Zephyr?

[Milan Fistonic]

The start finish line in 1964 was in Hohaia Street just before the Tawa Street intersection. In 1965 it was still in Hohaia Street but was moved to just past Tawa Street.

In 1964 the pits were in a corner of the Domain opposite the Brethren Church in Meura Street. In 1965 they were moved to the opposite corner of the Domain bordered by Hohaia and Huia Streets.

[Kwaussie]

WOW Great new photos!

[Oldfart]

The photo with a front row of Anglia, Mini, Anglia is absolutely Broadway, the 2 story building showing above the 4 men on the right is the "Wesley Building" where most Friday nights was what would later be a disco. It was where most teenagers in town spent Friday evenings. Being Wesley, it was obviously non drinking. The building is on the corner of Tainui and Broadway.
Obviously Broadway didn't have the median centre islands which were already in the middle of town as far as Tainui St intersection.
Likewise my memory says that going to the start was along the "non track" part of Meura Street while finished cars returned via the driveway about where the tennis courts are now. As always, memory caveat.

[Roger Dowding]

" Oldfart " - Rhys and Milan,
- Thanks for your notes. It helps with identifying the locations, the cars and their drivers. It will enable me to better date the photos.
I put " 1964 " on many of them - which may be incorrect.

Programme Covers from 1964 - Keiron Guinness archives, and 1965 Myle Hicks [ from the McLaughlin brothers ] archives.

1964

1965

More photos to come later - they were initially posted by Ross Cammick in three sets of 5 or 6 photos on " Old New Zealand Motor Racing " Facebook page - Have been in touch with Ross about " borrowing " them.

Will be repeating some photos that have been on other threads.
This will get them together in a group fairly close to each other.

Roger

[Roger Dowding]

The start finish line in 1964 was in Hohaia Street just before the Tawa Street intersection. In 1965 it was still in Hohaia Street but was moved to just past Tawa Street.

In 1964 the pits were in a corner of the Domain opposite the Brethren Church in Meura Street. In 1965 they were moved to the opposite corner of the Domain bordered by Hohaia and Huia Streets.

Milan, Thanks for this information - you had previously posted this Map which will help with locations - this show the pits in Huia Street so 1965.
From your previous comments track was the same layout and direction

Angled for North

Current Map [ per Google 2020 ] angled for North

[Roger Dowding]

More photos from the Scott - Given archives - thanks to Ross Cammick - via Myles Hicks and Ken Smith.

Again date may be incorrect - having issues definatively sorting out Race Numbers and Cars with events.
Need the full programmes from all years - Can anyone assist with that.
Jaguar 3.8 MK II C Keegan #55 , Chev Coupe, Ford B V8 Garth Souness, De Soto Colin Lumsden [ had race #61 and #63 according to entry lists - different years ? ]

Kato Special Race #18

Sports cars Daimlers and a Lotus 7 style car others ;

Willys Corvette I W "Red Dawson #59, and Humber 80 - followed Ford Zephyr and Ford Consul 315 D Jurie has Race #36 in another photo.
- Alan Boyle and Ron Brown with others are in the Car Dealers Building - the big window - you can just see the people.

Sports Car R Smith Austin Healey 100 Race #27

Sports cars Steve Oxton Daimler #24, AH Pat McLaughlin #28, TR3 M Lucas #94 and a Daimler #26 ! [ T Sheffield ]
The McLaughlin AH 4000 has Race #34 in the entry lists I have

More to come - including a couple of extras from Bob Homewood and Ross Cammick that were not part of the original post.

[Roger Dowding]

More of the Scott - Given archives - They were a photographic Studio in Matamata at the time.

Steve Oxton in the Daimler

1964 Saloons Fiat 1500 #34 and Mini Cooper #109 - 1961 - 64 Number Plates

1964 Saloons - Souness Ford B V8 Coupe #155, Humber 80 [ not Hillman] Zephyr and Fiat 1500 - 1961 - 64 Number Plates.

Mistral !

1964 Saloons - Ford Zephyr Mk2 #30, Anglia #33, Humber 80 , Mini - 1961 -64 Number Plates

Sports cars TR3, Daimler

That is the rest of the sets of photos - a couple of the late Kerry Grant in a Triumph to follow

[Roger Dowding]

Ross Cammick archives from the Scott - Given photos.
Kerry Grant #31 Triumph Spitfire - features in an Alan Boyle photo in a group 1964 races

A Bob Homewood photo of the Spitfire #31 - 1961 -64 Number Plates

The 1964 Report - results from Graham Woods archives - probably from Motorman.

The 1965 Report - again results from Graham Woods archives.

To follow - The Alan Boyle photos - taken from that Car Dealers Showroom - some from inside some from outside.

[Roger Dowding]

Posted before [ I think ] - puts them all together.

Zephyr MK1 2553cc #144 J Armstrong and Chev 6 Coupe 3700cc #54 P Clarkson

Plymouth Coupe

Sports cars - Kerry Grant Spitfire, an Austin Healey, Daimler and TR3

Coupes having an..Oops ! Ford Coupe #141 Chev Coupe Rod Coppins

Ford Zephyr that #30 Mark 2

Reposting the first photo as have lightened it - enabled me to see the car Race numbers

[Roger Dowding]

The Single Seaters - These from Keiron Guinness archives - unsure who was the photographer !.

Race #7

Race #4

Race #18

Front engined - an older car can't see the Race number

Keiron also had this a handwritten list of entries for race #13 The Matamata Festival Road Race;

Unsure if the same event /year
Experts on the single seaters - please comment

[Oldfart]

The front engine car is, I believe, the Lola FJ car, according to Keiron Spencer Black (Spinner), although I thought it was Histed at the time. I have no documents to confirm or deny.
I would say these photos of Keiron's are taken from a little further down Tui St from where Alan Boyle's ones were taken, the building opposite almost on the corner, was originally a car sales, according to Google Earth now the Pancake House.
Now I'll make a guess, I know Milan will correct me.
18 Dawson? 7 is a Lotus, maybe 4 is a Lola?
If Boyd is in the Lycoming, that list is 65, the previous year the results in post 230 say he was in the Valour.

[Kevin Hirst]

More of the Scott - Given archives - They were a photographic Studio in Matamata at the time.

Steve Oxton in the Daimler
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Saloons Fiat 1500 and Mini
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Saloons - Souness Ford Coupe, Humber 80 [ not Hillman] and others
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Mistral !
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Saloons Zephyr Mk2, Anglia, Hillman/Humber, Mini
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Sports cars TR3, Daimler
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That is the rest of the sets of photos - a couple of the late Kerry Grant in a Triumph to follow

Morrie Given photographer was my uncle

[Roger Dowding]

Kevin Hirst - what a small world mate. Good you get to see the photos
" Oldfart " Thanks for the information on the streets, and helping with the year.
I am actually at Te Poi at the moment only 15 minutes from Town - may have to visit tomorrow and take photos of the streets and corners.
Staying on a farm that was owned by Cyril Tuffey, now with his son Jeff, Cyril has lived around Matamata for many years and now lives in " Town ". As well as dairy farming, Cyril was also a Spraying Contractor in the Hauraki Plains [ Kerepehi ] and Matamata area.
He may well remember the Races.