Old Race Tracks

jellywrestler · Post by **jellywrestler** » Mon Apr 13, 2020 1:57 am

found this earlier today, book to big to look for more without 30 others things grabbing my eye

Ray Bell · Post by **Ray Bell** » Mon Apr 13, 2020 12:11 pm

Are you trying to test me out or what?

I said the AGP, to me that means Australian Grand Prix and by the context it means the AGPs for cars, not bikes.

So, to revert to my question, did bikes ever race on the Phillip Island road circuit used for the AGP?

jellywrestler · Post by **jellywrestler** » Tue Apr 14, 2020 5:35 am

Ray Bell wrote:Are you trying to test me out or what?

I said the AGP, to me that means Australian Grand Prix and by the context it means the AGPs for cars, not bikes.

So, to revert to my question, did bikes ever race on the Phillip Island road circuit used for the AGP?

not at all, why would i take the time to photograph stuff, reduce the data and post, the bike meeting is also called the australian grand prix too.

Ray Bell · Post by **Ray Bell** » Fri Apr 17, 2020 7:25 am

But clearly the timing and the context showed I was not talking about a bike race...

jellywrestler · Post by **jellywrestler** » Fri Apr 17, 2020 8:57 am

Ray Bell wrote:Were motorcycles ever raced at Phillip Island? I mean on the circuit used for the AGP...

Ray Bell wrote:But clearly the timing and the context showed I was not talking about a bike race...

it seemed pretty clear to me, sorry I was confused Ray

Ray Bell · Post by **Ray Bell** » Fri Apr 17, 2020 11:10 am

Not wanting to prolong this, but the next paragraph gave the full meaning...

"According to Fast Tracks (admittedly a book primarily about car circuits in Australia), motorcycles raced on a longer 12+ mile circuit which included most of the AGP circuit from a date somewhat later in 1928 than the 100 Miles Road Race, which later became renamed as the Australian Grand Prix."

The circuit the Australian Grand Prix for motorcycles has used is just under three miles. It was three miles, but they shortened the inner section a tad because the ground there was always wet and caused it to break up.

jellywrestler · Post by **jellywrestler** » Fri Apr 24, 2020 4:47 am

i finally managed to get this on you tube. There's some motorcycle footage from twyford 1964 Ahuriri 1956 and some cars at ahuriri later on plus some other stuff too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ITAtA0sHF4&fbclid=IwAR137OzIynO-KSKTZKqngEGPpRxM-u2p3abRU9EU2RMRDUYbP8LBYDaqLpE

Roger Dowding · Post by **Roger Dowding** » Sun Apr 26, 2020 4:21 am

Cars from the Arthur Siddall albums, thanks to Duncan Fox, The Northern Sports Car Club albums
There are several pages of racing at Seagrove - Will put the NSCC related stuff on that thread too !
This is just one of the pages Event in 1947;

Cars a report from an article event in 1949 - thanks to Bob Homewood - another NSCC guy who has a good archive of NSCC early years - not the 1940's but more into the 1950's and 1960's
One page of Arthurs album is from November 1949 - could be the same event.
The article mentions a lot of NSCC members and also mention the " Competitors Car Club of Auckland " holding an event in November 1948 the season opener - was that actually Northern Sports Car Club ?

Bikes - some details of a Motorcycle event at Seagrove in 1947 the Magazine report from December 1947 of an event in November - also from Bob Homewood - this is for " jellywrestler "- have sent it to him separately.

jellywrestler · Post by **jellywrestler** » Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:04 am

today taurangas old photo news went on line, good resource https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10157488865183720&set=oa.952248448522968&type=3&theater

Allan · Post by **Allan** » Mon Apr 27, 2020 8:59 pm

If you go through the rest of the booklet you come across this colour photo. Someone may be able to identify the cars and drivers for us.

Milan Fistonic · Post by **Milan Fistonic** » Mon Apr 27, 2020 10:30 pm

No 7 - Ken Sager Lotus 20

Green & Yellow Cooper-Holden - Brian Rice

No 18 Ken Kaye - Kato Special

Red Car at the back is Ivan Cranch's Maserati-Jaguar

The red car at front left could be John Riley's Lola Mk 1 sports car.

jellywrestler · Post by **jellywrestler** » Wed Apr 29, 2020 8:42 am

bell block 1980's, my understanding is that there were car races there, does anyone know anything about it? thanks

jellywrestler · Post by **jellywrestler** » Sat May 16, 2020 1:46 am

talking to someone today local and asked about a circuit in wingate in lower hutt, he confirmed there was but no more info on dates etc.does anyone here know anything about it? sounds like 1950's

John McKechnie · Post by **John McKechnie** » Sun May 17, 2020 4:13 am

Milan Fistonic wrote:No 7 - Ken Sager Lotus 20

Green & Yellow Cooper-Holden - Brian Rice

No 18 Ken Kaye - Kato Special

Red Car at the back is Ivan Cranch's Maserati-Jaguar

The red car at front left could be John Riley's Lola Mk 1 sports car.

John Courtney owns and runs the Kato Special

Roger Dowding · Post by **Roger Dowding** » Thu May 28, 2020 11:37 pm

An old Airfield circuit - 3 runways with connecting Taxiways in the middle of farmland, near the Rakaia River, at Hororata, close to Rolleston ..

Te Pirita ..
This is an image he sent me.
1st added as a better image..

** 2nd photo - originally posted .the track overlay is in the wrong position.. . oops.

jellywrestler · Post by **jellywrestler** » Fri May 29, 2020 5:38 am

yeah second one didn't have the b and w image scaled to the correct spot. would love to see photos of the racing that took place there, beleieved to be one meeting only

khyndart in CA · Post by **khyndart in CA** » Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:36 am

I recently saw this old race photo from the 1915 San Diego Exposition Road Race and recognized the names of the streets.

When I first arrived in California, I had no money, no job, no tools and no immigration papers but I had a return ticket to London in case the lovely woman I was after, threw me out. Well I found a job near this road circuit working in a British Foreign Car Shop where Jimmy the Scotchman who always had a flask of whisky in his tool box, was a wonderful mechanic and mentor also set me up so I could get settled in and allow me to marry my bride 46 years ago on July 6th, so this area has a special memory for me.

" On January 9th, 1915, the world’s fastest race-car drivers vied to complete 305 miles on a six-mile elliptical circuit of dirt roads for a winning purse of $5,000. Of the eighteen starters, including Barney Oldfield, Eddie Rickenbacker, Earl Cooper, and San Diego’s own “Bad Bill” Carlson, only five cars finished the race, which was won by Earl Cooper."

The # 4 Mercer leads the # 7 Peugeot driven by Eddie Rickenbacker around the corner from Canon St onto Rosecrans St.

The same corner today does not look nearly as exciting but the beer and fish and chips taste good !

(Ken H..to be continued.)

Ray Bell · Post by **Ray Bell** » Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:18 am

Do you have a map, Ken?

khyndart in CA · Post by **khyndart in CA** » Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:00 pm

Ray,
My map is a bit rough but the course circuit was on roads still used today not far from San Diego Airport.

(Note location of the British Foreign Car Shop.)

1915 winner climbing Chatsworth Blvd.

Chatsworth Blvd today from approx. same location.

(Ken H..)

Ray Bell · Post by **Ray Bell** » Thu Jul 02, 2020 11:03 pm

Great stuff...

My lap of the Savannah circuit was interesting:

https://dodgeforum.com/forum/members-rides/426498-ride-along-with-me-4.html#post3459183

21 miles in one version...

The Roaring Season

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