Austin-HealeyÂ’s and the Austin Healey Car Club of NZ and Others
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Pukekohe - 1964 an entry list with Austin Healey's 100's and 1000's 3000's that is
From Graham Woods archives - unsure which meeting but could be either the ACC meeting in December 1964 or was it the GP meeting at the beginning of the year. Posts of other races from 1964 and 1965 have been on " Old New Zealand Motor Racing " Fb page recently by Graham ..
The W [ Bill ] Dunster 3000 - now with BMC BOY, and Trevor Sheffield in his Daimler SP250 too !!
Charlie Conway in his 100 and J Kingdon in a 100/6
R Speedy in a 100 [ 4 ] and D Curlett in a 3000.
The AH 3000 with 4000cc engine P McLoughlin - I do not know of !!
I do now .. more on this car has been posted [August 2020 ]
Will pass the item on to the NZ Healey Club - may get some answers ..
The W [ Bill ] Dunster 3000 - now with BMC BOY, and Trevor Sheffield in his Daimler SP250 too !!
Charlie Conway in his 100 and J Kingdon in a 100/6
R Speedy in a 100 [ 4 ] and D Curlett in a 3000.
The AH 3000 with 4000cc engine P McLoughlin - I do not know of !!
I do now .. more on this car has been posted [August 2020 ]
Will pass the item on to the NZ Healey Club - may get some answers ..
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Roger Dowding wrote:From Graham Woods archives - unsure which meeting but could be either the ACC meeting in December 1964 or was it the GP meeting at the beginning of the year. Posts of other races from 1964 and 1965 have been on " Old New Zealand Motor Racing " Fb page recently by Graham ..
The W [ Bill ] Dunster 3000 - now with BMC BOY, and Trevor Sheffield in his Daimler SP250 too !!
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Charlie Conway in his 100 and J Kingdon in a 100/6
R Speedy in a 100 [ 4 ] and D Curlett in a 3000.
The AH 3000 with 4000cc engine P McLoughlin - I do not know of !!
Will pass the item on to the NZ Healey Club - may get some answers ..
That's from the Auckland Car Club meeting at Pukekohe on December 12, 1964.
The race was won by Jim Boyd (Lycoming), from Ian Green (Tojeiro Jaguar) and John Donnelly (HWM Thuderbird).
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Milan Fistonic wrote:That's from the Auckland Car Club meeting at Pukekohe on December 12, 1964.
The race was won by Jim Boyd (Lycoming), from Ian Green (Tojeiro Jaguar) and John Donnelly (HWM Thuderbird).
Thanks, Milan.
I sent the entry list to Trevor as he is mentioned, and have asked BMC BOY and Mark Donaldson - President of AHCCNZ, if they know of the Healey's especially that one from Thames shown as 4000cc " Austin Healey 3000 M I " .. Don't think the Healey-Valiant had been built in 1964.
Graham Woods has posted the entry list for most of the races and the Presidents Letter for the December 1964 meeting.
I will put them on the Pukekohe thread soon.
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This was in a publication called Classic Car Weekly that I picked up in the UK.
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Originally posted by Roger Dowding
......Don't think the Healey-Valiant had been built in 1964.....
A 'Healey-Valiant' would have to be powered by a Slant 6, they were about 3.76-litres but could stand a lot of boring out.
But would the engine have been installed as a slant, or vertically? As a slant it would have made it terribly difficult to work on.
And what might an earlier '4000' have carried under the bonnet?
Perhaps a Princess R engine like the factory 4000s? Or is that too much to ask?
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Ray Bell wrote:A 'Healey-Valiant' would have to be powered by a Slant 6, they were about 3.76-litres but could stand a lot of boring out.
But would the engine have been installed as a slant, or vertically? As a slant it would have made it terribly difficult to work on.
And what might an earlier '4000' have carried under the bonnet?
Perhaps a Princess R engine like the factory 4000s? Or is that too much to ask?
Ray Bell the Princess R motor was my thought too !!.
Tha Valiant Healey " Healey Valiant " did have the slant six - I don't have a photo of the original Valiant motor when fitted but do have this photos of the current installation. On a slant with the lovely Webers sitting flat ..
Photo by Milan Fistonic - rebuild by the current owner - who had to take out the non-compliant V8
One of the Owners [ Grant McKenzie ] photos of the car from Mark Donaldson at the All British Day in Auckland last year I think
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Milan Fistonic wrote:This was in a publication called Classic Car Weekly that I picked up in the UK.
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Thanks Milan - Interesting that they would pair the two cars - the 100 SIX, actually had a smaller motor 2639 cc compared to the 4 with 2660 - was less powerful and longer and heavier - Still I would like any Big Healey these days.
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Bill Bolton's Healey Racer Corvallis Oregon
Learn't a bit more about this car from another guy that both Bill and I know - Rex Urban from Salem Oregon was a Sprite and small BMC Cars Man Austin A30's A40's -[ which were pretty rare in the USA ] Rex and his mate Paul Lawry and Mini's ran " Mini Motors " for many years - Rex Urban is still restoring and rebuilding cars.
The photo again.
a bit of the story on the car;
" Rex Urban – who restored the car in White ; it was restored as it raced in the can-am racing series. White.. I'll look for pictures. It had very interesting mods. Lots of alloy and no vent in the bonnet. Light doors and boot. Brings back memories of 1980s.
Dave Birchall; That would make it the 1961 Canadian Championship winner? With alloy body. Driven by Grant Clark?
Rex Urban : reply to Dave Birchall ; Yes!!! That's it!.. Bill made sure that the numbers were exactly correct. Wonderful car. Lots of mods to the engine. Very driveable
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Bills other two racers - ABL6 the Modsport type car and UJB141 the ex Sebring 1960 works car part of a Team of 3, UJB143 did Le mans as well in 1960. UJB141 had a huge rollover at Sebring.
Both these cars have been sold by Bill, the Modsport ABL6 is in the UK, UJB141 and the above racer I am unsure
Rex Urban will look for photos of the car and its rebuild.
Interestingly a couple of ex North American racers have made their way to New Zealand - unsure if they have been rebuilt restored yet - one arrived in the 1980's and owned by Mark Donaldson.
The photo again.
a bit of the story on the car;
" Rex Urban – who restored the car in White ; it was restored as it raced in the can-am racing series. White.. I'll look for pictures. It had very interesting mods. Lots of alloy and no vent in the bonnet. Light doors and boot. Brings back memories of 1980s.
Dave Birchall; That would make it the 1961 Canadian Championship winner? With alloy body. Driven by Grant Clark?
Rex Urban : reply to Dave Birchall ; Yes!!! That's it!.. Bill made sure that the numbers were exactly correct. Wonderful car. Lots of mods to the engine. Very driveable
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Bills other two racers - ABL6 the Modsport type car and UJB141 the ex Sebring 1960 works car part of a Team of 3, UJB143 did Le mans as well in 1960. UJB141 had a huge rollover at Sebring.
Both these cars have been sold by Bill, the Modsport ABL6 is in the UK, UJB141 and the above racer I am unsure
Rex Urban will look for photos of the car and its rebuild.
Interestingly a couple of ex North American racers have made their way to New Zealand - unsure if they have been rebuilt restored yet - one arrived in the 1980's and owned by Mark Donaldson.
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I'm pretty sure you posted that Slant 6 pic before, Roger...
And I think I commented then how difficult it must have been to get to the distributor. But there's room for carbies and that's all good.
And I think I commented then how difficult it must have been to get to the distributor. But there's room for carbies and that's all good.
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The AH 3000 with 4000cc engine P McLoughlin
Following up with Ray Bells comment on the 4000 cc engine.
More information on the " Austin Healey 3000 M I capacity 4000 "- entered in the Auckland Car Clubs December 1964 Race meeting at Pukekohe. by P A T McLoughlin.
The entry list again from Graham Woods archives;
P A T McLoughlin was one of the McLouglin Brothers who owned the Austin Healey in 1964.
have gleaned some of the story from BMC BOY [Ross C ]and the cars current owner and restorer Myles Hick [ son of the late Gavin Hicks - well known in Classic Car and Restoration circles in Auckland and indeed New Zealand.
Myles observes ;
" Interesting it’s listed as 4000 as most of the programs had it entered as 4200.
The original motor would had been 4000, so they must have done the enlargement after this date "
Ross writes about the car ;
" I think the McLaughlin car is the Ruddspeed Healey that belongs to Myles Hicks (do you remember Gavin Hicks father of Myles and Justin. He passed away recently)
It was fitted with a 4000 big Austin motor and the original Ruddspeed was fitted into a A95 Sedan which I think hit a bridge and killed one of the McLaughlin brothers.
When Gavin bought the Healey the 4000 was still in the car and they could drive it.
The A95 was parked in damaged condition under a tree with the Ruddspeed engine out beside it.
Myles is currently finishing the car which had only about 40000 miles on it and in very nice condition bodywise for its age. Old English white over black as original with a black works hardtop.
It has a lot of mods fitted from Ruddspeed including an original 100S oil cooler.
It’s a 1959 3000 BT7 from memory. No doubt it will go overseas to get the sort of money cars built to the Hicks’
standard can be found.
They found a buyer with a Jensen 541 who wanted a modified 4000cc Austin 6. Probably the only person who would want one of those boat anchors!
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Spelling of the name McLaughlin or McLoughlin - will clarify as we know spelling in entry lists is often incorrect - the organiser / secretary having to decipher " Boys "handwriting.
Have other entry lists from meetings around this time at Pukekohe,being from Thames it may be the only track they raced on but could well have been at Matamata, Mt Maunganui and other middle North Island Race Meeting.
Myles no doubt has more information on the car - Probably met him back in the 1970's when involved with the Austin Healey Club - I have met and seen Gavin at many meetings of AHCCNZ or other Classic Clubs TACCOC, Jaguar Drivers when competing.
More to follow.
More information on the " Austin Healey 3000 M I capacity 4000 "- entered in the Auckland Car Clubs December 1964 Race meeting at Pukekohe. by P A T McLoughlin.
The entry list again from Graham Woods archives;
P A T McLoughlin was one of the McLouglin Brothers who owned the Austin Healey in 1964.
have gleaned some of the story from BMC BOY [Ross C ]and the cars current owner and restorer Myles Hick [ son of the late Gavin Hicks - well known in Classic Car and Restoration circles in Auckland and indeed New Zealand.
Myles observes ;
" Interesting it’s listed as 4000 as most of the programs had it entered as 4200.
The original motor would had been 4000, so they must have done the enlargement after this date "
Ross writes about the car ;
" I think the McLaughlin car is the Ruddspeed Healey that belongs to Myles Hicks (do you remember Gavin Hicks father of Myles and Justin. He passed away recently)
It was fitted with a 4000 big Austin motor and the original Ruddspeed was fitted into a A95 Sedan which I think hit a bridge and killed one of the McLaughlin brothers.
When Gavin bought the Healey the 4000 was still in the car and they could drive it.
The A95 was parked in damaged condition under a tree with the Ruddspeed engine out beside it.
Myles is currently finishing the car which had only about 40000 miles on it and in very nice condition bodywise for its age. Old English white over black as original with a black works hardtop.
It has a lot of mods fitted from Ruddspeed including an original 100S oil cooler.
It’s a 1959 3000 BT7 from memory. No doubt it will go overseas to get the sort of money cars built to the Hicks’
standard can be found.
They found a buyer with a Jensen 541 who wanted a modified 4000cc Austin 6. Probably the only person who would want one of those boat anchors!
"
Spelling of the name McLaughlin or McLoughlin - will clarify as we know spelling in entry lists is often incorrect - the organiser / secretary having to decipher " Boys "handwriting.
Have other entry lists from meetings around this time at Pukekohe,being from Thames it may be the only track they raced on but could well have been at Matamata, Mt Maunganui and other middle North Island Race Meeting.
Myles no doubt has more information on the car - Probably met him back in the 1970's when involved with the Austin Healey Club - I have met and seen Gavin at many meetings of AHCCNZ or other Classic Clubs TACCOC, Jaguar Drivers when competing.
More to follow.
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"Boat anchor" would probably be a good description if it's the truck motor...
They were also used in the A125 Sheerline and big Princess models of the late forties and early fifties, they would have put an enormous load on that Healey front end.
It was, in fact, the six from which the Healey four was derived. Built on a pre-war truck engine which started out, IIRC, at 3500cc.
Rex Law used one briefly in his Regal...

...but replaced it with a Cadillac V8. His was 3500cc from a military ambulance.
They were also used in the A125 Sheerline and big Princess models of the late forties and early fifties, they would have put an enormous load on that Healey front end.
It was, in fact, the six from which the Healey four was derived. Built on a pre-war truck engine which started out, IIRC, at 3500cc.
Rex Law used one briefly in his Regal...

...but replaced it with a Cadillac V8. His was 3500cc from a military ambulance.
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Ray Bell wrote:"Boat anchor" would probably be a good description if it's the truck motor...
They were also used in the A125 Sheerline and big Princess models of the late forties and early fifties, they would have put an enormous load on that Healey front end.
It was, in fact, the six from which the Healey four was derived. Built on a pre-war truck engine which started out, IIRC, at 3500cc.
Rex Law used one briefly in his Regal...
...but replaced it with a Cadillac V8. His was 3500cc from a military ambulance.
They where a pretty reliable truck engine in there day, only the odd burnt valve [typical of that head design] but not many other problems, would never think you would be able to get a lot of performance out of one though, the McLouclan brothers were in the TVCC, around the same time as I was.
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The Mcl brothers and the Healey 4000.
Kevin Hirst wrote:They where a pretty reliable truck engine in there day, only the odd burnt valve [typical of that head design] but not many other problems, would never think you would be able to get a lot of performance out of one though, the McLouclan brothers were in the TVCC, around the same time as I was.
Kevin, Hi,
I remember we [ teams of cars from Northern Sports car Club ] used to compete in Trials run by Thames Valley Car Club, as part of the Mercury Trophy series in the mid 1970's.
The mention of Thames - do you know Lloyd Gleeson ?, a Thames Boy who now lives in New Plymouth, he still has his Morgan Plus 4 that he bought new in the UK around 1970. he is a good mate of my Neighbour in Omokoroa, also a Thames Boy, named John Mitchinson - John and I went to Pukekohe for one day of the " Supercars " recently.
Ray Bell
The A125 / A135 Motor - yes, believe that it was a version of the A70 A90 AH 100 motor - which was a Truck motor of around 3 1/4 to 3 and 1/2 litres [ the A70/90 was the same block just cut down to a 4 cylinder - good stuff and thanks.
Myles Hicks is going to find some photos of the AH 3000 / 4000 and send them to me.
- watch this space.
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Look forward to that...
The first usage of the 4-cyl version of that 6, the reason it was built, was as a replacement for Jeep engines made locally so they didn't take up shipping space.
Then:
Austin 16 (is that right?)
A70
London cabs
A90 Atlantic
Nuffield tractors
Morris Commercial trucks
Austin Healey
100S Racing Healeys
Healey LSR cars
As for the six, it was out to 4-litres by 1947 or so for the A125 (or 135?) and also in trucks. Another two racing Specials I know of using them in Australia was the Sheerline Special (built by the Wylies) and the Stewand of Norm Andrews. In the latter it was a replacement for... a Jeep engine!
Here it is in Austin-powered form:

The first usage of the 4-cyl version of that 6, the reason it was built, was as a replacement for Jeep engines made locally so they didn't take up shipping space.
Then:
Austin 16 (is that right?)
A70
London cabs
A90 Atlantic
Nuffield tractors
Morris Commercial trucks
Austin Healey
100S Racing Healeys
Healey LSR cars
As for the six, it was out to 4-litres by 1947 or so for the A125 (or 135?) and also in trucks. Another two racing Specials I know of using them in Australia was the Sheerline Special (built by the Wylies) and the Stewand of Norm Andrews. In the latter it was a replacement for... a Jeep engine!
Here it is in Austin-powered form:

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McLoughlin brothers
Kevin Hirst wrote:They where a pretty reliable truck engine in there day, only the odd burnt valve [typical of that head design] but not many other problems, would never think you would be able to get a lot of performance out of one though, the McLouclan brothers were in the TVCC, around the same time as I was.
Spelling of surname was always McLoughlin in programmes I have from 1960's. They also ventured into single-seaters a year or two later, not with much success, cars a bit long in the tooth by then - 2.5 Cooper and Lotus 18 - Peter (not Pat) and Roger I think.
Stu
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NZ Motor racing site (Sargent) shows him in the 1967 GP as "Pat Loughlin Cooper T53 Climax 2495cc".
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Allan wrote:NZ Motor racing site (Sargent) shows him in the 1967 GP as "Pat Loughlin Cooper T53 Climax 2495cc".
Yes, only knew him as Pat, & Roger his brother, I thought A70 & A90 where different castings 2.2 ltr & 2.6, first used as2.2 in austin 16 about 1948 Roger, no did not know the guy's you mentioned from Thames, cheer's
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Different castings for the larger bores...
I wonder if they had 'siamesed' cylinders like the later engines when they were ultimately enlarged?
Externally similar, of course, dimensionally identical except for bore sizes.
And as I posted above, first used as a replacement engine for Jeeps during the war.
Oh, and I forgot that they were used in Austin Gipsy and the civilian version of the Austin Champ.
I wonder if they had 'siamesed' cylinders like the later engines when they were ultimately enlarged?
Externally similar, of course, dimensionally identical except for bore sizes.
And as I posted above, first used as a replacement engine for Jeeps during the war.
Oh, and I forgot that they were used in Austin Gipsy and the civilian version of the Austin Champ.
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McLoughlin brothers and the Ruddspeed 3000 Austin 4000 Healey.
stubuchanan wrote:Spelling of surname was always McLoughlin in programmes I have from 1960's. They also ventured into single-seaters a year or two later, not with much success, cars a bit long in the tooth by then - 2.5 Cooper and Lotus 18 - Peter (not Pat) and Roger I think.
Stu
Stu, thanks for the info about the name - I will check with Myles Hicks on the Christian names [ the Pat came I think from the initials P. A. T. perhaps ]
Thanks Kevin too about the motors - have received nearly a dozen photos from Myles Hicks and a lot more on the History of the car.
Interestingly just got a Message from Ken H -he knew of a John Mitchinson when in Kiwitahi - at school who was around the same DoB as his brother 1944 !! - Small World ?? perhaps
This montage shows the car several photos and the burnt out wreck of the A95.
More photo to follow am trying put them in order - from the Rego plates white on deep red 1956-61 and then black on yellow the last series.
Number plates ;
1956 - 61 - Car was a very early 3000 built in 1959. so had a set of these first.
Then these 1961 -64.
Plates 1937 to 1965/66 year
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And the A99 discs on the A95...