Historic Sports Sedans & All-Comers . Taupo 2018 and beyond.
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When I first started going there it was always full circuit.
And I was there the day in 1970 my Monaro equaled the outright lap record on the full circuit.
As overheating seemed to be an issue for these cars..looking at Morrari ...then maybe 3 laps of 2.2 miles was suitable
What we have now at Puke is not interesting to me
And I was there the day in 1970 my Monaro equaled the outright lap record on the full circuit.
As overheating seemed to be an issue for these cars..looking at Morrari ...then maybe 3 laps of 2.2 miles was suitable
What we have now at Puke is not interesting to me
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John McKechnie wrote:The Aussies were racing their "Humpties" ,Ray
Only Aussie car here was Graeme Harveys "Golden Holden", also a Humpty.
Falcons were not seen as racing then, EH-S2, HD-X2, HR-X2 were raced over there, but not here
Some standard model Holdens were in B&H
Carlos Neate won in a Nissan Skyline GT here though
Really no Aussies till 1968- after Allcomers- Grady Thomson winning the Heatway Rally, then Glenvale 100
Just some small corrections John,the Old Holdens were known as Humpies not Humpties. The EH model you are thinking of was S4 not S2. You are correct with HD-X2, and the HR was 186S not X2. Sorry to be so pedantic. Hope this helps.
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John McKechnie wrote:also note the race distance is only 3 laps............
At 5 Pound for the winner they were not in it for the money !
That would not be enough money to pay for the fuel for 3 laps !
They must have provided good "spirits" to all entrants after the racing was over.
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petrol was 35 cents a GALLON then, Ken, unlike the miserable litre you get now.
Dauntsey Teagle told me in 1993 he made money from prizegiving running his Formula Ford in the 1970s
Dauntsey Teagle told me in 1993 he made money from prizegiving running his Formula Ford in the 1970s
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Dale, Humpies in Oz, Humpties (Dumpties) in NZ. Just like Austin Somersets were Summersaults. 

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I thought Ellis may pick that one up if incorrect...he has a humpy, nah....humptie is better
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John McKechnie wrote:All Cortinas and Mini Cooper S s compliant, but I thought that MSNZ was looking to FIA Group 5 for 1968
Great field of wild Zephyrs and Anglias
So Kevin.......how was your A90 eligible to race and to get points and the Cortinas and Minis not, was it your multi carb non factory set up?
John, my car was only racing in allcomer's, was not allowed in group 5, could only do car club stuff after that.
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John McKechnie wrote:All Cortinas and Mini Cooper S s compliant, but I thought that MSNZ was looking to FIA Group 5 for 1968
Great field of wild Zephyrs and Anglias
So Kevin.......how was your A90 eligible to race and to get points and the Cortinas and Minis not, was it your multi carb non factory set up?
John, have you taken note of the size of Kevin (Hirstys) hands. one of them around your ear and he could race, do what he liked. just a thought.
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Clip from Auckland Star, 1964.
As long as the term "allcomer" remains on saloon car racing programs, drivers will continue to take drastic measures to devise a car ,which,although bearing little resemblance to its original state, is immenseley fast on the track
Another newspaper clip -April 1967=
ACC is putting on the Dunlop meeting at Pukekohe .
*Monsters Roar for the Last Time
This will be the last major race for allcomer cars since R.Frost introduced the class at Levin 8 years ago
Prize money will total more than &200. more than any other saloon car class in NZ except Wills 6 hour*
As long as the term "allcomer" remains on saloon car racing programs, drivers will continue to take drastic measures to devise a car ,which,although bearing little resemblance to its original state, is immenseley fast on the track
Another newspaper clip -April 1967=
ACC is putting on the Dunlop meeting at Pukekohe .
*Monsters Roar for the Last Time
This will be the last major race for allcomer cars since R.Frost introduced the class at Levin 8 years ago
Prize money will total more than &200. more than any other saloon car class in NZ except Wills 6 hour*
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This is a great Terry Marshall photo of an Allcomer race at Waimate in 1966.
You folks will get the names correctly.
Is that Paul Fahey on the left and Dave Simpson on the right of the front row in their Anglias (Are they fastbacks here or did that come later? ) Rod Coppins is looming at the rear.
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You folks will get the names correctly.
Is that Paul Fahey on the left and Dave Simpson on the right of the front row in their Anglias (Are they fastbacks here or did that come later? ) Rod Coppins is looming at the rear.
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Winter of 1965 Jack Nazer, modified Anglia body-cutting down roof height, front smoothed with radiator intake lowered.
Dave Simpson copied, but Jack didnt race in 66
Simpson and Fahey both appeared Nov 65
At the same time Custaxie was being created.
Allcomer racing had become so popular, and was being the main draw card.
Renwick was the first on the SI calendar , and the prize money was bigger than ever before.
Dave Simpson copied, but Jack didnt race in 66
Simpson and Fahey both appeared Nov 65
At the same time Custaxie was being created.
Allcomer racing had become so popular, and was being the main draw card.
Renwick was the first on the SI calendar , and the prize money was bigger than ever before.
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A day at the beach in NZ in the 1960s.
Compared to a day at Daytona Beach, Florida, in the early years !
Compared to a day at Daytona Beach, Florida, in the early years !
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Allcomers and the Fastback Anglia's
Quote from an article by Allan Dick entitled "The Fastback Anglias " in issue #75 of NZ Classic Driver
" Call them ' fastback ' or ' breadvan ' these remarkable racing Anglias are a New Zealand motor racing institution "
Two twincam Anglia's appeared at Pukekohe in the November 1965 meeting , with " very similar streamlined noses "
Paul Fahey # 104 and David Simpson #54
" ... Then three weeks later, at the seasons second meeting both cars appeared with major and unusual body modifications " the December 1965 meeting at Pukekohe.
.... " both teams worked in total secrecy,thinking they were going to spring a surprise on the other Both cars appeared with roofline extensions that filled the gap between the revers-angle rear window and the end of the boot - to stop turbulence in that area ".
The December meeting must have been Dunlop sponsored as Dave Simpson put a strip of masking tape over the Firestone stickers .. his car had a logo Lotus Anglia on the nose ..
April 1966 meeting Paul Fahey
May 1966 meeting Dave Simpson now race # 36
another one this time Frank Radisich who had moved on from the Humber - Zephyr, later Humber Jaguar the January 1968 GP meeting if my notes are correct [ maybe Jan 1967 ]
" Call them ' fastback ' or ' breadvan ' these remarkable racing Anglias are a New Zealand motor racing institution "
Two twincam Anglia's appeared at Pukekohe in the November 1965 meeting , with " very similar streamlined noses "
Paul Fahey # 104 and David Simpson #54
" ... Then three weeks later, at the seasons second meeting both cars appeared with major and unusual body modifications " the December 1965 meeting at Pukekohe.
.... " both teams worked in total secrecy,thinking they were going to spring a surprise on the other Both cars appeared with roofline extensions that filled the gap between the revers-angle rear window and the end of the boot - to stop turbulence in that area ".
The December meeting must have been Dunlop sponsored as Dave Simpson put a strip of masking tape over the Firestone stickers .. his car had a logo Lotus Anglia on the nose ..
April 1966 meeting Paul Fahey
May 1966 meeting Dave Simpson now race # 36
another one this time Frank Radisich who had moved on from the Humber - Zephyr, later Humber Jaguar the January 1968 GP meeting if my notes are correct [ maybe Jan 1967 ]
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Fastback Anglia's leading the field - the Elbow Pukekohe Jan 1966
Whose is the Mustang ?? was it an Australian import ?, Fahey then Simpson in the Anglia's Rod Coppins in the Zephyr Corvette
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That looks like the GP Roger (number of spectators) In which case is Geoghegan in the Mustang?
Whose is the yellow #38 at the beach? Reg number doesn't match any of the other 3 shown.
Whose is the yellow #38 at the beach? Reg number doesn't match any of the other 3 shown.
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Yellow Submarine was DA 6070
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Oldfart wrote:That looks like the GP Roger (number of spectators) In which case is Geoghegan in the Mustang?
Whose is the yellow #38 at the beach? Reg number doesn't match any of the other 3 shown.
Rhys...good question as Fahey Mustang also had stripe on the side, thick in the middle, thinner stripes above and below. Being a Shelby meant it has a scoop in the bonnet at that time..104
http://www.theroaringseason.com/showthread.php?145-Jack-Inwood-B-amp-W-images-of-60-s-motor-racing/page2
However that looks like the red and blue 2 stripes you can see on Geoghegan mustang google images.
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Oldfart wrote:Whose is the yellow #38 at the beach? Reg number doesn't match any of the other 3 shown.
Rhys,
The Anglia fastback at the beach, reg. EW1287 # 38 belonged to Jack Nazer.
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khyndart in CA wrote:Rhys,
The Anglia fastback at the beach, reg. EW1287 # 38 belonged to Jack Nazer.
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Thanks, before the front and top chops! I never saw it before those!
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An Allcomer / Open Saloon modification.
This early Terry Marshall photo which includes his brother, shows Spinner Black's Mk 1 Zephyr at an engineering shop in Tatuanui, east of Morrinsville, getting the rear fenders cut out to allow for the wider tyres. Some good Kiwi ingenuity in very basic conditions.
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This early Terry Marshall photo which includes his brother, shows Spinner Black's Mk 1 Zephyr at an engineering shop in Tatuanui, east of Morrinsville, getting the rear fenders cut out to allow for the wider tyres. Some good Kiwi ingenuity in very basic conditions.
(Ken H)