Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

[Roger Dowding]

Ray your comment ;
" One of these Vauxhalls very nearly killed my brother when it took a left hand corner too quickly, spun, then rolled right in front of him, as he was walking to Sunday school. In those days, it was a derestricted speed limit area and in later years, it always puzzled me how anyone could possibly have spun there - but I was driving Minis where corners like that weren't an issue. It was pre MoT/Wof days too, so maybe the tyres were rubbish? Rather put me off Vauxhalls. "

They had that wonderful Knee Action front suspension so when you hit the brakes hard the front rose rather than squatting, very disconcerting, and also meant you made more damage as you went over the bumper of the car in front .. back in the day when Bumpers were just that to Bump.. and many were spring loaded, none of this Plastic and deformable structure nonsense.

A Mate of mine had an LIP Velox in the late 1960's in Northern Sports Car Club,had triple carbs, and inline shifter and Escort Flares on the back to cover the " Jolly Wide " widened wheels, went like stink in a straight line !! Wish i had a photo of it..

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Two of the 3 number 17's... I have no idea who was driving, thanks to the useless programme.

This could well be Troy Guise.

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Sunday. Took the Magnette to Caffeine and Classics, but there was another (free) show/meet up at Orewa, so not as many attendees as usual, but as always, some interesting stuff and plenty of people wanting to chat! February 25th will be a big one though.

Peter's Trekka was featured in Saturday's Herald 'Driven' section.

[Andrew Metford]

Sunday. Took the Magnette to Caffeine and Classics.... February 25th will be a big one though.

What is the occasion? Might have to go, took the bike last month and saw your 'F, but couldn't find you.

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I think it is another anniversary Andrew. I generally go early and leave early, in time for the daily coffee at Kings Plant Barn, Porana Rd about 11am! Usually seen most cars by then. Hopefully I will have made a bit more progress with the Magnette, but the last two items to be fitted will be the woodrim steering wheel and the MG radiator badge. Still trying to get a really good fit with the bonnet(s) so a lot of grinding, re-glassing, filling, sanding and fettling at the moment, with not a lot to show for it!

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Back to the Bathurst meeting.

*Once again, the pictures have disappeared... Reloaded 10 noon

The Mortimer Surtees with a new livery.

Chris Watson's McLaren Gardos

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[John McKechnie]

Looking at the red Torana with the fence around it reminds me of Bob Jane when he saw his restored Championship winning Camaro on display also with a neat fence around.
He ordered the fence to be taken away so people could get close to it as the fans always did.
Cant see this ever going on a race track

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Agree John. If they are going to put a barrier around a car, then at least consider those of us who like to take an unobstructed photograph of it! Having now travelled to many motor museums (and I will continue to do so whenever and wherever I can), some are no more than storage areas, whilst others appreciate the point of a bit of space around the exhibits or an interesting backdrop.

Can someone please ID this car for me? Not in the programme...

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[John McKechnie]

Angus looks so docile in a white XJC

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Not too docile John. First pic in the above set has the inside front almost in the air - pretty good for an XJS I would have thought - and this was quite early on.

This pic also taken at 10:18am... One wheel up.

[John McKechnie]

Nah, he could see you with the camera and gave you a good moment...hes an excellent host.
Hope Les was watching.

[4dnut]

Just got back home(Sunday)I too had an interesting day as well, quite a few people asked where HMC and HSC were and in fact most thought we were supposed to be apart of the program and stunned to find us not there, I explained that after last years mismanagement, disorganization and been left out of any formal information until a month out, we(like F5000, FJ, HSS, ERC/Arrows) decide it wasn't us anymore..........let alone this years massive proposed entry cost been asking around mid last year, just to find out that the SI Touring car group were subsidized or they wouldn't come..........bizarre.

I got told yesterdays crowd(Saturday) was larger but to be quite honest I thought in reality there was really no one there in proportion today...........a very piss poor crowd considering the advertising and high profile........I can see some marketing people getting hauled over the coals id say....LOL

Still, for me after 7 years of back to back weekends every January plus organizing Australian Trans Am over four times I was more than happy to wander around, chatting and having NO part of any of the organizing or any racing group.........I felt really good and enjoyed my day. Was also great to catch up with Jim Richards, Charlie O'Brien and others too.

Also an interesting note, most I spoke with knew little about the Taupo event too........based on that I'm not expecting it to be a spectator haven...........oh well next week will tell.

PS: didn't know Hampton was for sale again, certainly no talk about it from anyone today!

Hi Dale, The Touring car grid also declined this at the AGM last year due to proposed high entry fees. I still struggle how when organising a 'Bathurst' festival this group wasn't organised to be part of it. Anyway it was only at the 101 when I was chatting with one of the guys from Hampton over a beer he said that they needed them, and due to the last minute nature of it they offered a carrot.

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I also contacted the producers of the programme. It was HD who provided the information - or lack of it.

I'm not sure about others, but I hate it when the entrant list (such as it was) is scattered all over the programme.

Will anyone at HD seek feedback or listen to the grizzles? Was the programme detail supplied by secretarial staff or someone who understands the purpose of a race programme, or has any interest at all in the sport?

Has planning started yet for 2019, before the various race groups do their own calendar and will any lessons have been learned from 2 generally unsatisfactory Festivals?

All vey well offering a carrot at the last minute, but they needed a bunch of carrots, as I for one will probably skip next year, for the first time - and ditto, the October 101. One hiccup is a hiccup, two less than satisfactory Festivals on the trot looks, grim, so unless the game is lifted sky high for 2019, support for the January Festival is going to evaporate totally, and that is very, very sad.

[Andrew Metford]

Will anyone at HD seek feedback or listen to the grizzles?

No.

They didn't listen before either, long before the track was sold. They sent out an email survey / questionnaire after the festival 3 or 4 years ago, asking a string of questions, and then the last section you could write whatever you wanted. I gave them a good list of the problems I saw, and an idea to fix each one. Never heard boo back from them, and each subsequent Festival has never had any of the problems even addressed, let alone rectified. As I said in the other thread ( What's the answer? ), this was the first festival I haven't been to. I used to come back from Perth especially for them, this time I was home ( for good ). It's going to need a pretty spectacular turn around of a lot of things to get me back to another one as well.

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A quick skip back to break things up a bit. Apologies if any have been posted before.

Triumph Dove GT.
The internal pre '66 GRRC members car park at the Goodwood Revival, is trackside, but not too large and always worth a good look. I missed it in 2016 as there is no tractor stop there! In 2009, I had my youngest brother in tow (he's the slim one on the right) and I didn't really have the time to dawdle.

Triumph Italia. The external public pre '66 car park at the Goodwood Revival often has some real gems. Hopefully this year, I'll somehow or other manage to walk around a bit of it instead of just passing through - though my feet do get rather tired with so much standing and walking!

[Roger Dowding]

A quick skip back to break things up a bit. Apologies if any have been posted before.

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Triumph Dove GT.
The internal pre '66 GRRC members car park at the Goodwood Revival, is trackside, but not too large and always worth a good look. I missed it in 2016 as there is no tractor stop there! In 2009, I had my youngest brother in tow (he's the slim one on the right) and I didn't really have the time to dawdle.
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Triumph Italia. The external public pre '66 car park at the Goodwood Revival often has some real gems. Hopefully this year, I'll somehow or other manage to walk around a bit of it instead of just passing through - though my feet do get rather tired with so much standing and walking!
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A " Triumph - ant " collection, have owned a GT6 [MK3 ] and a TR4A Targa/ Surrey top Roadster, believe there is /was one TR4 Dove in NZ a few years ago, never ever seen it.

[John McKechnie]

Roger.....Dove featured in NZ Classic Car Mag a couple of years ago. Frank is the owner, was here for years.