BUILD THREAD For 1964 Falcon Sprint to Monte Carlo Rallye FIA spec'

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Bruce302 wrote:You bring the car, i'll bring the coke and hookers....


Your showing your age there Bruce....book me a seat !
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Spgeti wrote:Your showing your age there Bruce....book me a seat !


sounds like we have the makings of a looong boys weekend away
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It might take me 2-3 years to build the car!
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Since I am bringing a Falcon for you on the 10th Bruce, can I have the coke and hookers................
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The Monte Carlo cars came with twin fuel tanks the main tank which was about 60 liters and a auxiliary tank around 42 liters, mounted in the boot directly above the diff.
This is a picture of a 1963 Monte carlo car. I have seen a picture of a 1964 they had a round tank But I have since misplaced it - Check out the ballast in the boot!
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This system had a Stewart Warner Fuel pump that pumped fuel from the main tank
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I have a round 42 liter tank coming for the car
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So you need a spade and rope as well to help get out of the kitty litter....?
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John McKechnie wrote:Since I am bringing a Falcon for you on the 10th Bruce, can I have the coke and hookers................


You will have to get in line...!
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Spgeti wrote:So you need a spade and rope as well to help get out of the kitty litter....?


And the winch too!!, plus 2 spare wheels to change my tyres on the side of the track
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John McKechnie wrote:Since I am bringing a Falcon for you on the 10th Bruce, can I have the coke and hookers................


If you share....
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Its not as if I am bringing a Chevvy............
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Well Christmas comes early in our house, (just about all year round!) the first of the xmas pressies are here.
1 set of Koni classic shocks
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These are the same fit as mustang but the front shock top mount is pressed out and is replaced with a bolt & nut. These are correct for the 1964 Monte Carlo Falcon

These go with heavy duty front and rear springs, which are still a work in progress, Front springs should arrive in January.
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Great clip from 1969 NASCAR


[video=youtube;78q5hnkK9fg]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78q5hnkK9fg[/video]
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Paul B wrote:Well Christmas comes early in our house, (just about all year round!) the first of the xmas pressies are here.
1 set of Koni classic shocks
[ATTACH=CONFIG]48122[/ATTACH]

These are the same fit as mustang but the front shock top mount is pressed out and is replaced with a bolt & nut. These are correct for the 1964 Monte Carlo Falcon

These go with heavy duty front and rear springs, which are still a work in progress, Front springs should arrive in January.


Those are very nice, mine are ready for paint and new 'water slide' decals.
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Mr fussy strikes again!
I was not happy with the structure of the front fenders, I just had to do it right. So they have now been reinforced with a flexible structural fiberglass mesh. This has maintained a good race weight but increased the flexible strength of the fender significantly.
This is a shot from the inside
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So now this has all been correctly fitted up and 80% of the door and front fender gapping is complete
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What weight are they Paul ? They look super light weight.

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Paul B wrote:Well Christmas comes early in our house, (just about all year round!) the first of the xmas pressies are here.
1 set of Koni classic shocks
[ATTACH=CONFIG]48122[/ATTACH]

These are the same fit as mustang but the front shock top mount is pressed out and is replaced with a bolt & nut. These are correct for the 1964 Monte Carlo Falcon

These go with heavy duty front and rear springs, which are still a work in progress, Front springs should arrive in January.


Wow, where did you find these?
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Hi Steve,
These are still available as a brand new item, and manufactured (in Holland) to the same specification as they were.
They come with 3 period stickers, Including the classic sticker, as shown. Not cheap, once you pay freight, land them & GST
I needed these as they are correct for the Rally Sprint

https://konimarket.com/products/1968-1969-chevrolet-camaro-with-multi-leaf-spring-koni-classic-shock-rear-573

Or your specialist GM aftermarket supplier may have them
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Bruce302 wrote:What weight are they Paul ? They look super light weight.

B


The steel fenders are 22 lb and the fiber are 11.5lb,with the extra fiberglass structure added and had to make the new reinforcing panel. Paint preparation with polyester filler & paint on the fenders which may add another 1lb
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Paul,
When I came to work today I saw this fine 1964 Falcon 260 Auto Station Wagon sitting in the parking lot. Although the roof has a slight rust issue I thought you could have something like this as your tow / support vehicle. What do you think ?
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That's cool Ken, Thanks for posting it.
Funny, I have been looking at a few Falcon woody wagons lately. It looks fairly rust free apart from the roof, as you mentioned.
It looks like it has a set of early American racing rims fitted. Guess it has a 2 speed auto.
Is it for sale?
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