Historic Sport Sedans

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maybe 1989 ish
yes Steve Pearson in the renault,
cant recall the datsun Coupe,
Jennifer, in likely the first Run in the ex Brett Willis Smith Steel Commodore, as it retains the VK front at this stage.
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Red Renny-
Hi l had a big crash at Bay Park back I'm the day the v8 motor went in a stock car some parts in the Rover some I still have the Bent up body I stored for years then dumped cheers Steve

So looks like Red Renny is gone and not up for restoration.
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Our next event for our long hot summer season is Taupo F5000 Historic Grand Prix and Tourist Trophy Meeting.
Entry forms are now being send out to all our drivers and need to be in by Dec 22
January 20 , 21, with Friday being a fun practice day- not part of the event itself.
We all remember how neat it was at Taupo in April with our first visit and look forward to another fun event.
This is Wellington Anniversary Weekend - so make it a long one.
Good places to stay..if you need more info -contact me, but get in early as this is Taupo in Summertime

In appreciation of the distance drivers have to travel to race, Taupo have a ZERO entrance fee.
Thank you Chris Abbot and his Team for this wonderful offer.
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interesting project here-
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-parts-accessories/vintage-parts/other/auction-1478262398.htm?rsqid=7KhRcMlMx0G3sqPgwMX3hw

ex barry vujk sunbeam stiletto........look great in our feild
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rogered wrote:[ATTACH=CONFIG]47980[/ATTACH]


Looks like a 120Y, its #29 sponsor on windscreen looks like Toolcraft
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John McKechnie wrote:interesting project here-
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/car-parts-accessories/vintage-parts/other/auction-1478262398.htm?rsqid=7KhRcMlMx0G3sqPgwMX3hw

ex barry vujk sunbeam stiletto........look great in our feild


It would, but theres no Chassis/body... from my understanding.

Here it is driven by Bryan Bate in January 82
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seaqnmac27 wrote:It would, but theres no Chassis/body... from my understanding.

Here it is driven by Bryan Bate in January 82
[ATTACH=CONFIG]48121[/ATTACH]



Go back to this thread, and this tells the rest of the story

http://www.theroaringseason.com/showthread.php?72-Lost-Race-Cars/page19
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John McKechnie wrote:In relation to Red Renny, this from a memory-

The Rimp -Imp with twin turbo engine-was crashed heavily at Taupo, then fixed, , and then a huge crash at turn 1 at puke, then dumped,
all the mechanicals put into Red Renny Renault body.
That was later crashed (not sure where, taupo or baypark ??) and pretty sure it was dumped,
and then he built the rover.


Crashed at Baypark heading onto the back straight
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rogered wrote:Go back to this thread, and this tells the rest of the story

http://www.theroaringseason.com/showthread.php?72-Lost-Race-Cars/page19


Hi Roger, there has been more told on this since then. I will find the details.
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seaqnmac27 wrote:Hi Roger, there has been more told on this since then. I will find the details.



The way I heard it is that it sat under a hedge for a while before the Impwerks guy (Brian Bradshaw?) bought it. I was told he stripped it and dumped the carcass as he felt it was beyond repair. Some years ago he had a Stiletto body on Trademe and was advertising that he could turn it into a replica/rebuild if a client with suitably deep pockets wanted....
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Paul Wilkinson wrote:The way I heard it is that it sat under a hedge for a while before the Impwerks guy (Brian Bradshaw?) bought it. I was told he stripped it and dumped the carcass as he felt it was beyond repair. Some years ago he had a Stiletto body on Trademe and was advertising that he could turn it into a replica/rebuild if a client with suitably deep pockets wanted....


Yes you are right Paul, I reviewed the article and images and that is exactly as per Russ Cunninghams comments as per Roger's comment. The thing for me, as I said back then, I have a familial connection with this car as my uncle was mechanic for Bryan Bate and Nev Brickley. He helped Bryan and Bob Homewood change the power plant
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Manfield 12 Nov 2017
Reunited at the race track again, last time together was April 1975.
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On behalf of John Mc
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Just a reminder to all HSSIA and other drivers competing at a National event of new clothing safety rule, all competitors will have been notified by MSNZ email of this last year.-

HMC/HSC newsletter-
*As of the 1st April 2018 the clothing standards for racing have been updated.
Please check this now and make sure that all your clothing is compliant with the new regulations. All our races come under National Race...not club.
Of special note is the regulation on race suits and undergarments which are now compulsory. Socks must be mid-calf, and undergarments full sleeve and long legs. No tee shirts or shorts.
Our last race meeting of the season is on the 7th April and the new regulations will be in force so please make sure that you have this sorted as you can believe it will be checked by the scrutineers*

So scants ,briefs,thongs, budgie smugglers will now NOT be acceptable as underwear, or the only thing you can wear under a one piece race suit.

Under a one piece race suit must be long-johns, and upper torso must be waist to neck, wrist to wrist--.
Effectively 2 layers now.
No synthetics allowed, check for materials detail in MSNZ rule book-

https://www.motorsport.org.nz/sites/default/files/motorsport/manual/Live%2035%20App%202.01%20Sch%20A_0.pdf

So do not roll up to Taupo without these as the scrutineers will be wanting to see them.

I am so glad it is not the group coodinators Responsibility and Liability to do a personal check on each driver to make sure they comply..........
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John McKechnie wrote:Just a reminder to all HSSIA and other drivers competing at a National event of new clothing safety rule, all competitors will have been notified by MSNZ email of this last year.-

HMC/HSC newsletter-
*As of the 1st April 2018 the clothing standards for racing have been updated.
Please check this now and make sure that all your clothing is compliant with the new regulations. All our races come under National Race...not club.
Of special note is the regulation on race suits and undergarments which are now compulsory. Socks must be mid-calf, and undergarments full sleeve and long legs. No tee shirts or shorts.
Our last race meeting of the season is on the 7th April and the new regulations will be in force so please make sure that you have this sorted as you can believe it will be checked by the scrutineers*

So scants ,briefs,thongs, budgie smugglers will now NOT be acceptable as underwear, or the only thing you can wear under a one piece race suit.

Under a one piece race suit must be long-johns, and upper torso must be waist to neck, wrist to wrist--.
Effectively 2 layers now.
No synthetics allowed, check for materials detail in MSNZ rule book-

https://www.motorsport.org.nz/sites/default/files/motorsport/manual/Live%2035%20App%202.01%20Sch%20A_0.pdf

So do not roll up to Taupo without these as the scrutineers will be wanting to see them.

I am so glad it is not the group coodinators Responsibility and Liability to do a personal check on each driver to make sure they comply..........


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Hi John and others,

Please be aware that MSNZ issued Manual Amendment 35105 on 25 Jan 2018 stating that "Garments (underwear) manufactured to this standard in a ‘short sleeved and/or ‘short pant’’ version can be accepted" - this is applicable for all levels of competition in New Zealand [color="#FF0000"]EXCEPT FOR Premier Championship Races and Championship Rallies[/color].

The manual amendment can be viewed here:
http://www.motorsport.org.nz/sites/default/files/motorsport/manual/amendments/35105%20Sch%20A%20clothing%20Amendment.pdf

Chicane Racewear sell both long and short versions here:
http://www.chicane.co.nz/products.asp?CategoryID=4

In case this suggests that I'm directing competitors towards Chicane, Harris Race Radios sell compliant underwear too (it complies with the top level requirements but costs a bit more than the Chicane products):
http://www.freemracewear.co.nz/nomex-fireproof-set.html

Remember that you still need to buy the clothing that complies - this amendment does not make your brand new 100% cotton tee shirt and boxers acceptable.

Cheers,
Alan Hyndman.
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Item 1-
Underwear-
Garments
designed to be
worn between the
overall and
wearer’s body
entirely covering
the wearer except
for head, hands and feet

Am I blind as I see nothing here that Alan says about short clothing.
Please attach quote , NOT where to find it
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(4) SFI 3.2A/1˂ means SFI Quality Assurance Specifications 3.2A/1 and 3.2@A/3. The SFI 3.2A Spec label will be found on the left arm or the collar

(5) All cotton garments must have a manufacturer label stating 100% Cotton (No ‘Spandex or Synthetics).

(6) Garments manufactured to this standard in a ‘short sleeved and/or ‘short pant’’ version can be accepted.


From the amendment quoted John.

As a former 50% owner of Chicane for ten years (2000 - 2010), please note that buying from a reputable dealer is crucial. There have been several instances of counterfeit suits being sold, which has had major negative repercussions for genuine FIA approved NZ and Australian manufacturers. When your own label is copied by some underhand individuals, not manufactured to the same high quality standards, lives are put at risk.

Getting FIA approval is a very protracted and expensive process and for a company the size of Chicane, which on a world scale is very small, there are no economies of scale in manufacturing. If you see this as a plug for Chicane, fine, but with over 30 years in the NZ clothing trade, I'm passionate about local manufacturing whenever possible.

As an aside, race suits are NOT fireproof. They are fire resistant only - and for a limited amount of time.
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Ray and Alan Hyndman ....thank you for this ,
and it will be quoted to the scrutineers and hopefully the CAN be accepted will become WILL be accepted.
All I want is no surprises for my drivers on the day.
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Hot off the press.......
Gordon Burr and his Alfetta have just completed 15 consecutive laps in testing at Taupo today...... with no gearbox problems
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I have just spoken to Technical Dept at MSNZ and they have said-
MSNZ online manual- Schedule A Car and Driver safety.-

As from 1 April, Ammendment 35105 page 1
1- Balaclavas must be worn at our National meetings.
2-Gloves must be worn at these meetings.
3 -Sox to mid calf.
4- Short sleeved shirt,,short pants can be accepted
As ours is B, then all these in must be to-
a-SFI 3.3
b-ISA 69/40
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This weekend at Taupo the Historic Sports Sedans and Invited Allcomers are having their last run for the Summer.
Gordon Burr.........................Alfetta V8
Robert Jack.........................Escort V8
Dennis Running...................Mazda RX8.
Roger Davis........................Torana SLR5000.
Neil Deighton......................Chavenger.
Bruce Goodwin...................Mk111 Zephyr V8.
Jamie Coyle-Bennenbroek...Torana XU1 V8.
Bruce Thompson................Falcon XA Coupe.
John McKechnie.................Team Cambridge Monaro.
Richard Quin......................Ex Crowe Starlet.
Peter Hooper......................Shellsport Starlet.
Cam Neil...........................1939 Chev Coupe.

Up for grabs will be our annual Barry Algie Memorial Trophy. and , like our Historic racing, is not awarded for performance.
We welcome everybody to share and enjoy a wonderful weekend.
And of course we are running with our fellow Historics- HMC/HSC.
Its been a tough season for many, however this field will be rewarding to watch and be in.

The great news is that the ex Ian Algie Alfetta Milodon V8 will be there and running.
Gordy has completed 15 laps of testing
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