Historic Sport Sedans

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Great time this weekend at Manfield for the MG Classic meeting, great turn out of cars
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Great shots Paul, what a neat variety of cars and colours. So good to see them back on the track together.
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And that's Brent Bullivant standing next to his old Capri (now 118 Graham Barnes driven) in post # 1095
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From Manfeild last weelend.

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Hi Milan, sorry we missed you at the weekend. I must make better meeting arrangements next time.

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Bruce302 wrote:And that's Brent Bullivant standing next to his old Capri (now 118 Graham Barnes driven) in post # 1095


Did anyone ask his opinion on the Capri? He was very young when he built it, still a teenager. Obviously a really talented guy, but was heavily under-funded.
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Steve Holmes wrote:Did anyone ask his opinion on the Capri? He was very young when he built it, still a teenager. Obviously a really talented guy, but was heavily under-funded.


We had drinks with Brent and spoke at length about the car and his builds, there were 3 iterations, improving as it went along until it was the tubed car it is now. Obviously yellow would be nice but it is what it is. Brent was working with Jim Richards at the time and later he went across to Australia and worked with Jim again for about 3 years, his efforts were partly responsible for the success of the big Falcon coupe that Jim ran as well as other cars. Real nice guy and has a great memory.
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Bruce302 wrote:We had drinks with Brent and spoke at length about the car and his builds, there were 3 iterations, improving as it went along until it was the tubed car it is now. Obviously yellow would be nice but it is what it is. Brent was working with Jim Richards at the time and later he went across to Australia and worked with Jim again for about 3 years, his efforts were partly responsible for the success of the big Falcon coupe that Jim ran as well as other cars. Real nice guy and has a great memory.


Yes thats right Bruce, it started off with a Ford motor before switching to SBC. I think it first appeared in 1975, and evolved until 1979. By this time Brent was working for Richards. I know when Richards raced the Falcon hardtop in NZ in early 1979 in the Open Saloon series, Brent was both preparing the Falcon and racing his Capri in the same series. There is a photo somewhere on this site of the Falcon in NZ and with "Prepared By Brent Bullivant" listed on the door.

Would have been interesting to see what he could have achieved with a healthy budget. I believe his tyres were four year old hand-me-downs.
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Steve Holmes wrote:Yes thats right Bruce, it started off with a Ford motor before switching to SBC. I think it first appeared in 1975, and evolved until 1979. By this time Brent was working for Richards. I know when Richards raced the Falcon hardtop in NZ in early 1979 in the Open Saloon series, Brent was both preparing the Falcon and racing his Capri in the same series. There is a photo somewhere on this site of the Falcon in NZ and with "Prepared By Brent Bullivant" listed on the door.

Would have been interesting to see what he could have achieved with a healthy budget. I believe his tyres were four year old hand-me-downs.


Brent got Jim's cast off tyres, so they were definitely used. The SBC was from Dexter Dunlop's F5000.

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"Would have been interesting to see what he could have achieved with a healthy budget. I believe his tyres were four year old hand-me-downs."

Brent told me the car owed him $45,000 back in mid 70s ,-that was a healthy amount back then.
he sold it as it was a one way money pit.
Not a cent of that was spent on tyres.
And he was rapt to see his old Capri running with Bunces (Team Cambridge ) old Monaro in the weekend, and remembers the last time they were on the track together was April 1975 at the Paul Fahey Flying Farewell
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$45000 back then was 2 decent houses! Someone said after a few years had past they could have bought it for $5000 less engine.
Whole lota car there. Brent is a really clever guy, it was great to listen to his story.
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A mans greatest fear is that his wife will sell his car for what he told her it owes him.......sound familiar Paul ?
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Robin Tanner was telling me today about a guy racing back in the mid 70's, English car, Chev powered, owed him $ 30 K, but was still slower than the $ 12 K Firebird Robin was running. The other guy persevered, spent more money but didn't get any faster.

That would not be an isolated story.

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If you do it in your early life, thats OK.
Its only when you do it in your 60s, that you start to worry if you have actually learned anything in your lifetime

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Paul B wrote:$45000 back then was 2 decent houses! Someone said after a few years had past they could have bought it for $5000 less engine.
Whole lota car there. Brent is a really clever guy, it was great to listen to his story.


We all only come this way but once, good on him for doing it while still young..............and now he's a bit of a legend. Dale M
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John McKechnie wrote:A mans greatest fear is that his wife will sell his car for what he told her it owes him.......sound familiar Paul ?


And the moral of the story is: Always tell your wife what your race car will be worth when its finished and what a great money making investment it is..... Tui add?
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Great pic Roger---what year?
Steve Pearson with his Renault - 81.
Looks like Jen Mossman in front-28.
Whose the hidden red car?

This from Roger-The rear comer of the commodore you see is the Mack Workman, Lindsay Willis built Commodore.
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In relation to Red Renny, this from a memory-

The Rimp -Imp with twin turbo engine-was crashed heavily at Taupo, then fixed, , and then a huge crash at turn 1 at puke, then dumped,
all the mechanicals put into Red Renny Renault body.
That was later crashed (not sure where, taupo or baypark ??) and pretty sure it was dumped,
and then he built the rover.
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