Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Shooting the bull on historic motor racing and motorsport history.
User avatar
ERC
World Champion
Posts: 5016
Joined: Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:29 am
Location: Auckland, North Shore
Contact:

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Post by ERC »

Yup. It was the closest I could get to the track and with no long lens, many of my pics have to be severely cropped. Once free of parental shackles (dad borrowed a firm's car now and again) and/or public transport, I used to get there early, do the paddock then park myself at the hairpin for the rest of the day. Oh how I wish I had today's long lens and DSLR back then... but I have said that before!
[CENTER]
I have no idea where or why there is a green stripe across these negs. That darned Russian camera (Kiev) wasn't exactly 100% reliable. (1979)
179_0510_14 Daimler.jpg


179_0510_15 Riley.jpg


179_0510_16 Triumph.jpg


1982

Remember we had a garage 2 doors way ('Chick' Wheelhouse) and he expanded to more modern premises in Old Basford, with the opening performed by Lewis Collins. Sadly, not a very sharp pic... Not at all professional quality.
182_0222_24 Lewis Collins.jpg


Out back was this Bitter.
182_0222_25 Bitter.jpg


The Nottingham Sports Car Club ran a training day at Curborough sprint track March 1982 and part of the training was for flag marshals and St Johns Ambulance staff, which in the UK is 100% volunteers. Most of the younger ones were fairly new to dealing with seatbelts of any sort and here, NSCC Chief Flag Marshal Mike Mayfield, shows the full harness belts and probably the kill switch fitted to John Stonard's Piranha AFTER he had been extracted by the more experienced personnel!
182_0328_030 Mayfield Hobson.jpg

[/CENTER]
User avatar
ERC
World Champion
Posts: 5016
Joined: Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:29 am
Location: Auckland, North Shore
Contact:

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Post by ERC »

[CENTER]
Still at the NSCC day. Alvis Special. I bagged a passenger ride in this. The 900 yard Curborough course isn't really long enough to fully enjoy that sort of unique experience.
182_0328_033 Alvis.jpg


The Howitt Printing European F2 meeting at Donington, July 3rd or 4th, 1982.
At least these clockwork Frogs are Turbo, so a bit more exciting than the standard article we were lumbered with at Hertz, when they switched from Ford Fiestas.
182_0703_118 Renault.jpg


182_0703_119 Renault.JPG


182_0703_121 Renault.JPG


182_0703_123 Renault.JPG


Car 23 Philippe Streiff - AGS JH19/BMW and car 32 Thierry Boutsen Spirit 201/Honda. Mike Thackwell was also in this race, but sorry, no pic.
182_0703_126.JPG

[/CENTER]
User avatar
ERC
World Champion
Posts: 5016
Joined: Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:29 am
Location: Auckland, North Shore
Contact:

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Post by ERC »

Not the sharpest of pics - but not the best of cameras - or photographers...

Car #1 was Kenny Acheson, #2 Dr Jonathan Palmer in Ralt Hondas
[CENTER]
182_0703_128 Maurer Bellof.jpg


182_0703_129 Ralt Palmer.jpg


182_0703_132 Ralt.jpg


182_0703_134 Spirit Boutsen.jpg


182_0703_135 Ralt Palmer.jpg


182_0703_137 Ralt.jpg

[/CENTER]
User avatar
ERC
World Champion
Posts: 5016
Joined: Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:29 am
Location: Auckland, North Shore
Contact:

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Post by ERC »

Same meet as above. Round 7 of the Tricentrol British Saloon Car Championship.
[CENTER]
Jeff Allam Sanyo Rover V8
182_0704_199 Rover.jpg


Steve Soper leads Alan Curnow and Richard Longman in 1300cc Austin Metros. (Not turbos...)
182_0704_200 Metros.jpg


182_0704_201 Metro.jpg


Duckhams and Outspan Minis
182_0704_203 Minis.jpg


A rare outing (display only) for the Rover-BRM
182_0704_204 Rover-BRM.jpg

[/CENTER]
Michael Clark
Semi-Pro Racer
Posts: 584
Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:40 pm
Location: Drury

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Post by Michael Clark »

The next season Steve Soper went from Metro to Rover Vitesse and was instantly the man to beat
seaqnmac27
World Champion
Posts: 1193
Joined: Sun Jun 19, 2011 8:24 am
Location: Yandina, Queensland

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Post by seaqnmac27 »

ERC wrote:Not the sharpest of pics - but not the best of cameras - or photographers...

Car #1 was Kenny Acheson, #2 Dr Jonathan Palmer in Ralt Hondas
[CENTER]
[ATTACH=CONFIG]45374[/ATTACH]

[ATTACH=CONFIG]45375[/ATTACH]

[ATTACH=CONFIG]45376[/ATTACH]

[ATTACH=CONFIG]45377[/ATTACH]

[ATTACH=CONFIG]45378[/ATTACH]

[ATTACH=CONFIG]45379[/ATTACH]
[/CENTER]


#7 is Stefan Bellof in the Maurer?
User avatar
Steve Holmes
World Champion
Posts: 12255
Joined: Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:25 am

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Post by Steve Holmes »

ERC wrote:[CENTER]
Still at the NSCC day. Alvis Special. I bagged a passenger ride in this. The 900 yard Curborough course isn't really long enough to fully enjoy that sort of unique experience.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]45324[/ATTACH]

The Howitt Printing European F2 meeting at Donington, July 3rd or 4th, 1982.
At least these clockwork Frogs are Turbo, so a bit more exciting than the standard article we were lumbered with at Hertz, when they switched from Ford Fiestas.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]45325[/ATTACH]

[ATTACH=CONFIG]45326[/ATTACH]

[ATTACH=CONFIG]45327[/ATTACH]

[ATTACH=CONFIG]45328[/ATTACH]

Car 23 Philippe Streiff - AGS JH19/BMW and car 32 Thierry Boutsen Spirit 201/Honda. Mike Thackwell was also in this race, but sorry, no pic.
[ATTACH=CONFIG]45329[/ATTACH]
[/CENTER]


Ray, was that a one make series for Renault 5s? They look like the same versions that were rallied.
khyndart in CA
World Champion
Posts: 3286
Joined: Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:20 am
Location: Los Olivos, California, 93441

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Post by khyndart in CA »

It is ironic that Stefan Bellof crashed his # 7 Maurer at Eau Rouge corner at Spa in 1982 at almost exactly the same spot where he died 3 years later in 1985 after colliding with Jackie Ickx while racing in a Porsche 956.
He was one of the most promising driver's of his day but many felt he often drove over the limit as may have happened here.
Ray, that is a neat photo you took of him.
Beloff in 1982.jpg

Spa. 1982 at Eau Rouge Corner.


(Ken H)
User avatar
ERC
World Champion
Posts: 5016
Joined: Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:29 am
Location: Auckland, North Shore
Contact:

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Post by ERC »

Correct Ken. The #7 is Bellof (correct spelling) in the Maurer. (If on Windows, run your mouse across the pic and it should show.) I have never been much of a single seater fan from that era and find it frustrating that I often have to do some research to find out where some of the cars were manufactured. I keep a separate file block for British so non-British race cars are just filed as not-British. Road cars by country.

Correct Steve, it was a series for Renault 5 Turbos. "Coupe d'Europe Renault 5 Turbo Elf" Round 5 1982. Apart from the slicks, it looks as though they could very well be roadcars. With a 40 car grid, it was obviously well supported. Once again, I have one car not listed in the programme... Car 48.
User avatar
ERC
World Champion
Posts: 5016
Joined: Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:29 am
Location: Auckland, North Shore
Contact:

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Post by ERC »

Back to the more mundane Ellerslie Concours of 1983 and 1984.
[CENTER]
The first time I'd seen a De Joux Mini - and it was in the car park. Like the monthly Caffeine & Classics meet at Smales Farm, those informal meets where anyone can just roll up, are much enjoyed.
183_0222_022 De Joux.JPG


183_0222_023 Riley.JPG


1984
183_0222_24 Jaguar.jpg


184_0212_17 Riley.jpg


And the end of the day at Whenuapai 1984, the meeting I missed thanks to family commitments - though it was my birthday.
184_0226_204 Jaguar.JPG

'
I think this is a Riley, but I have been wrong before. Many, many times.
184_0226_205.JPG

[/CENTER]
User avatar
ERC
World Champion
Posts: 5016
Joined: Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:29 am
Location: Auckland, North Shore
Contact:

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Post by ERC »

More from Whenuapai - end of the day course runs 1984.

[CENTER]
184_0226_200 Ferrari.jpg


Some say there are more Ferraris per capita in NZ than any other country...
184_0226_201 Ferrari.jpg


184_0226_202 Ferrari.jpg


184_0226_203.jpg


184_0226_206 Jaguar.JPG


184_0226_208  Jaguar.jpg

[/CENTER]
User avatar
Steve Holmes
World Champion
Posts: 12255
Joined: Thu Apr 07, 2011 6:25 am

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Post by Steve Holmes »

ERC wrote:Correct Steve, it was a series for Renault 5 Turbos. "Coupe d'Europe Renault 5 Turbo Elf" Round 5 1982. Apart from the slicks, it looks as though they could very well be roadcars. With a 40 car grid, it was obviously well supported. Once again, I have one car not listed in the programme... Car 48.


Thanks Ray, they sure are neat little cars. As far as one-make classes go, thats one of the more interesting I've seen. Was it a French series that had a round in the UK, or a British series?
User avatar
ERC
World Champion
Posts: 5016
Joined: Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:29 am
Location: Auckland, North Shore
Contact:

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Post by ERC »

[CENTER]
184_0226_209 Jaguar.jpg


184_0226_210 Ferrari.jpg


Yes, still at Whenuapai 1984. The car must have run as it has the TACCOC race numbers. Pity I missed it - and the ERA running.
184_0226_211 Morris V8.jpg


On to December 1984 at Pukekohe. Holden, not BMW as per the original label...
184_1216_099 Holden.jpg


184_1216_102 Daihatsu.jpg


184_1216_105 BMW.jpg

[/CENTER]
John McKechnie
World Champion
Posts: 2672
Joined: Sat Jun 30, 2012 6:24 am

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Post by John McKechnie »

Ray,-#1652
thank you for posting such a neat picture of the Sports Sedan Association early days from 1984.
That banner still exists and we had it at Hampton Downs January last year.
And the Marina and Graeme still going strong 33 years later........................
Keep up the great work ,you Historian you.
User avatar
ERC
World Champion
Posts: 5016
Joined: Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:29 am
Location: Auckland, North Shore
Contact:

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Post by ERC »

Thanks John. I'm absolutely thrilled that the time and effort taken to scan and publish is appreciated by what appears to be a fairly wide audience of enthusiasts, who pop into this site and this thread on a regular basis. Pity it takes about 2 or 3 minutes to scan each single negative, so a set of 8 often takes over 20 minutes - then the scanner throws a wobbly and doesn't scan one or two in focus, so they have to be redone anyway - or ignored and deleted.

More to the point and your comment about 'Historian' struck a nerve - though I don't put myself in the same category as Michael!

After a recent health issue, we attended an 'Advanced Care Planning' session at North Shore Hospital last week (Google it...) and I realised that if I were to keel over tomorrow, there would be a whole heap of stuff for the surviving family members to deal with.

A fair bit of that would relate to disposing of what I have accumulated over the years, ranging from prewar race programmes to modern race programmes, models - die cast and slot cars - most in mint condition and boxed, car and motorsport memorabilia, 1000's of car magazines, books (some of them now quite valuable), 1,000+ CDs and old LP records, a garage and an office full of stuff. Whilst the wardrobe could be emptied in minutes, to the benefit of a charity shop, I'd hate it if all the other stuff just ended up in a skip!

Filling in the ACP template - or my version of it, I have to make some serious decisions and there is no time like the present, so if anyone is interested in acquiring the UK 'Classic & Thoroughbred' magazine right from when it started in 1973, to the middle of 2015 for a fair price, (only a few issues are missing, usually thanks to Gordon & Gotch, the local wholesalers stuffing up!) PM me.

Chaindrive might also be interested in a box of the old UK 'Model Cars' magazines and also 'Miniature Auto' many of which contain car plan drawings and also cover slot cars of the era. I think that a partial magazine clearout has to be the place to start as it occupies the most space. There are also several years' worth of NZ Classic Car magazine (up to the middle of 2015) and the monthly MGCC MaG for MG enthusiasts. The MG MaGs are free to anyone who wants them.

That will still leave a massive pile of random magazines, local and UK, and even the odd rarity and collectible...

All magazines are in 5 ream A4 paper boxes.

I still have the Octane magazine and Classic & Sportscar, plus Practical Classics each month on subscription (though I am almost a year behind reading them, thanks to the annual cruising addiction...), I wouldn't be averse to selling off older issues.
User avatar
chaindrive
Semi-Pro Racer
Posts: 211
Joined: Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:33 am
Location: Christchurch

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Post by chaindrive »

+Ray, Thank you for the thought. Your pics are keeping me out of the home for the bewildered!
Tony (chaindrive)
khyndart in CA
World Champion
Posts: 3286
Joined: Thu Oct 17, 2013 5:20 am
Location: Los Olivos, California, 93441

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Post by khyndart in CA »

Ray,
Just remember two things ; # 1, Don't EVER leave us.
# 2, I will never be able to visit you as I would never make it out of your garage or I'd go broke if I did !
You have done this site a wonderful deed with all your contributions and may it continue for a long long time.
Thank you.
Ken Hyndman
User avatar
ERC
World Champion
Posts: 5016
Joined: Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:29 am
Location: Auckland, North Shore
Contact:

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Post by ERC »

Thanks guys. I'm genuinely touched. I'll be battling on with the older stuff for a while yet (still on negative film - more slides to be done) but Laguna Seca is on my new bucket list.
[CENTER]
184_1216_106 BMW.jpg


184_1216_108 BMW.jpg


184_1216_109 Ford.jpg


184_1216_113 BMW.jpg


184_1216_114 Ford.jpg

[/CENTER]
User avatar
ERC
World Champion
Posts: 5016
Joined: Thu Jul 05, 2012 4:29 am
Location: Auckland, North Shore
Contact:

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Post by ERC »

[CENTER]
184_1216_116 BMW.jpg


184_1216_117 BMW.jpg


184_1216_119 Holden.jpg


184_1216_120 Chrysler.jpg


184_1216_121 Toyota.jpg


184_1216_122 BMW.jpg

Far more interesting than today's tightly regulated almost identical under the bonnet offerings...
[/CENTER]
Michael Clark
Semi-Pro Racer
Posts: 584
Joined: Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:40 pm
Location: Drury

Re: Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

Post by Michael Clark »

Those early days of Group A were great weren't they?

Falcons, Mustangs, Commodores, 635CSIs, Vitesses, Volvos etc. - Ray these photos are like turning on a tap in the memory bank...
Post Reply