Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

[Steve Holmes]

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Is this you Oldfart?

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I think that is Bruce Sutcliffe Steve.

Saw the Robertson at your place Oldfart. Couldn't believe how lightweight that fibreglass was.

Just having a go at the 1994 Hamilton Street race programme. Adding a few more drivers/cars to the database. Oh dear. Someone didn't do a very good job of the final proof of the master entry list in driver alphabetical order... According to that particular list, Kirk Benge's Falcon is 1964 and 1584cc.

[khyndart in CA]

Here is one showing "Oldfart"at speed at Hampton Downs. Roycroft Trophy historic meet in 2013.

Rhys at speed in his Austin Seven Special.
"Classic Driver" April 3013. photo.







(Ken H.)

[Oldfart]

No Steve, I didn't have a Mark 5/6 in NZ, (I do have one here in the UK now) I think "at speed" for my driving is a bit of an exaggeration though.

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I wish I had a programme for this event as I took quite a few photographs. I'm assuming July 19th 1980.

Saturday, Nisan Mobil December 1989. I posted a pic previously of the #2 car.

Sunday 10th.

I'm not sure what this is, but looks as though it is at Ellerslie, but no idea what year either. Either 1989 or 1990 at a guess.

Car and driver isn't a problem, but at an MG Hillclimb, from memory, round about the Hauraki Plains, possibly up behind the Red Fox Tavern but I'd appreciate the location and the date if anyone can help.

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[Oldfart]

NZ2599 is an Alfavee, kit car made in Whangarei with VW beetle "stuff".
The Lotus 30 (?) helmet looks a bit modern for 1980 I thought??

[Jac Mac]

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The Lotus 30 (?) helmet looks a bit modern for 1980 I thought??

When I worked at Charlton Auto Woody was importing full face helmets from ~1973 onwards. xtra, Gurney had one at 1968 Indy 500, Google suggests first made in 1967.

[John McKechnie]

In 1974, I had a BELL full face .

[Oldfart]

OK, wrong again!

[ERC]

Thanks Rhys.

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May 1970... I think that is one of the earliest pics I have of a driver wearing a full face helmet. Not the sharpest or best of pics unfortunately. Ulf Norinder

Another not so good pic. Part of the problem with having to set the distance before shooting - and it was probably accelerating hard! September 1970

Brands Hatch April 1971, Howden Ganley is still in an open face but the driver behind is wearing a full face.

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[khyndart in CA]

I remember Bruce had just started wearing a full face helmet in May / June 1970.

I think that is Brian Redman in the first McLaren M18 F 5000 car behind Howden in the previous post wearing the full face helmet.


(Ken Hyndman )

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first full face helmet I saw was worn by Ron Grable at Bay Park when he drove the spectre. that was a Bell Star. cannot remember which year

[Kenz]

This link re the 50th anniversary (2016) of full-face Bell Helmets is interesting:
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Thanks Kenz. There is a square closing bracket missing from the above link.

Legends - Hampton Downs - practice, March 25th.

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So good to see this car back on track.

It may say Vauxhall, but we all know it isn't a Vauxhall V8!..

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Pete Bromley had electrical issues and although going OK here in practice, missed the first race on Sunday.

Apparently Keith Hamnett had an oil line come adrift in Saturday's race and didn't run Sunday.

Under 2 litre BMW's includes Minis. Good move. Programme states 'David John', but a young (very young) protege at the wheel. One of the few drivers who could physically look up to Ray Williams...

Gordon Legge, now taking an active role in the organizational side of motorsport. BMW E36.

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[John McKechnie]

The gold and white Capri V8 of Rob Brerrigan- in the above pic- has a longer history than we thought.
Rob got it off Bob Grove who presented it as it is now, and had run it for some years.
I looked at the 3 log books that Rob got with the car, turned out it was built in 1993 with a 5000 cc V8
One owner was a B. Chambers
The late Jeff Cooley owned it, was no. 79, had Dave Ward Towing on the front guard
#832 of Historic Sport Sedan thread shows it running at Taupo in 1998 with usual suspects Graham Barnes, Neil Deighton, John Learmonth, Roger Davis, my Torana V8 ,even Dale Mathers was there in my old Mustang Fastback
He -possibly-sold it to a dentist called Babb,who raced it for a year.
then Bob Grove got it.
So here is another car from the past that disappeared and has returned.
If anyone has anymore info on this car please let me know

[ERC]

Interesting. Mark Babb, a tidy racer himself, brought a Capri over from the UK (not a V8). I have a photo of it on the PC. The Berrgren car did run with us once with Bob Grove, but I never saw Mark Babb race it. Rob was disappointed when Ray Williams bought the Neil Tolich Capri!

As someone said to me today, 'Roaring Season can get quite addictive...'

[John McKechnie]

Thanks Ray, will keep an open mind on possible ownership of that name which is not confirmed,, which is why input is so important here.

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Can anyone please identify this? Taken at a Silverstone midweek session in early 1977 and on the same day as the de Cadanet Lola and the F1 Brabham posted earlier. Howard may know!

The very last F1 BRM though sadly, it never raced in a GP. Built as a Jordan-BRM, the P230.

The Arnott, seen here at Whenuapai. I think, 1990.

Whenuapai 1995

It wasn't allowed to happen under Bernie's reign, but de Beaufort's Porsche was totally outclassed in F1, yet added colour and variety. My support for larger grids is well known and I'm sure that despite the 107% rule (or is it 105%?), I believe F1 needs larger grids. Part of the reason for the decline in spectator support over the last couple of decades has been the smaller grids. It may not be apparent on TV, but it certainly is if you have paid to attend.

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I'm now dismantling the glass slides, to clean the glasses before scanning and also trying to identify which sets were taken on the same day! I know the above BRM pic was from an early visit, maybe even as early as the 1970's, (it opened 1973) as the BRM's were later grouped alongside the Vanwall collection.

Some Kodak slide film had a code number at the top which makes that part easier, but others had no markings at all, which may mean it was stock film from Dad!

Makes a slow job even slower... Sooner or later, I'm going to have to just give in and put an approximate date, but I may come across a slide with the same markings that will fix a date. I live in hope.

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June 1976 Mike Wilds driving a Shadow DN3 in the 'F5000' race at Mallory Park. It was open to large engined cars but up to 5000cc.

Martin Pearson's well travelled Datsun Cherry. As Martin lived on the south coast, it must have been one hell of a journey up to Cadwell Park. I did post a similar pic on the grid at Donington. Due to the day's duties, I often didn't get the opportunity to get any action shots and despite Martin supporting many meetings, I never once managed one.

I believe this is a Mistron, and at Pukekohe, but I have no date. Early 1980's.
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One of the Curborough sprint regulars, John Stonard in his Pirahna - though it may have had more well known origins.

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You may have noticed that cleaning the slide glasses has improved the quality somewhat!