Just A Mix Of Pics - Ray Green Collection

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My favourite, The Riley Moth. Missed it on the hill...
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Having owned Minis continuously since February 1967, a staggering 50 years, I really don't recognise anything under this Mini bonnet! Beautifully done though.
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I hope they run a strut tower brace on that mini
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928 wrote:I hope they run a strut tower brace on that mini


Is it needed? Looking at the photo the loads on that coilover are vertical?? The top wishbone is not much above crank pulley, isn't that where all the other loads will be? The lower end of the coilover is on a swivel on the top wishbone, so I think the strutbrace wouldn't have too much function. Often wrong though.
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Oldfart wrote:Is it needed? Looking at the photo the loads on that coilover are vertical?? The top wishbone is not much above crank pulley, isn't that where all the other loads will be? The lower end of the coilover is on a swivel on the top wishbone, so I think the strutbrace wouldn't have too much function. Often wrong though.


Looked well engineered to me, would be very little side load on mounting,toyota 4age with corona F.W.D. box hence lack of oil leaks.
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Last batch from Leadfoot.

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Now back to sorting, cropping, naming and filing the Festival pics...
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Finally managed to finish filing pics from the January meetings. Phew!

As mentioned elsewhere, a lot of research is sometimes required and this batch is yet another that has been or had been in one of the the 'UNDATED' folders. Slowly but surely, some gaps are being filled in as others build their websites. Just one dated pic added to one website, can provide the key to dating many others, so there is a lot of going backwards.

Identifying current pics is a breeze in comparison, but as others have found out, it can still be very, very time consuming.

Donington UK, all Pre 1983. Dates to be confirmed.

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The MGCC T type series - and I apologise if I have posted any of these before. I believe the car at the front came to NZ - for a while - under the stewardship of Neville Marriner, but I never saw it here.

What I find fascinating is that modern Tier 1 races often seem to struggle to get 14 cars on a grid, yet back in the 1980's, a single make series for 30 year old cars not only got the numbers, but the crowd loved it! I'm no fan as a rule of single make/model series but there are exceptions.
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A Marcos owners club meeting by the looks of it. Little did I know back then.
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This is a real mix!

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I have absolutely no idea where this was taken or when. One of Dad's old negs, but on sheet film, not glass. I'm guessing its a Bugatti, or a tatty Bugatti lookalike, but other than that, absolutely zero details and very little to go on, so this may live permanently in the undated folder.
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Brands Hatch 1976 and your's truly's only single seater experience, which was totally over-shadowed by a run in the passenger seat of the instructor's Escort Mexico.
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Formula Ford tangle, possibly 1980 but definitely Cadwell Park.
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What happened to the Tuatara? Whenuapai.
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Mal Clark's Zephyr ute (Rover V8 power?) which I think was sold to Japan. Richard Atkinson's plywood chassis V6 Marcos in the background, now owned by Phil Foulkes of Formula Ford fame. Possibly for sale.
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This part restored Greeves is for sale. New seat cover, new shocks, new rectifier and just about all bits to finish it, but most in unrestored condition.

Engine has supposedly been checked and has been kicked over regularly. Still on the UK system with the plate 55 CEW - which is probably worth way more than the bike over there! Approximate valuation of the plate has been around £4000 - if the bike is returned to the UK and has an MoT. Any serious offer considered. Just send me a PM.

I'm obviously not going to get it finished and as it is shared with my brother, who is still in a UK hospital after being bowled over on a zebra crossing in Spain, just before Christmas, would be nice for him to get a few dollars.
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Models

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Donington Collection's BRM P25 model.
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There was a time when Scalextric Models were fairly basic, but I have shifted from 1/43 scale overpriced models, to collecting the occasional 1/32 Scalextric Models as they seem to me to be better value and the detail is just fantastic.
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My budget doesn't run to these models.
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Maserati factory 2012.
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Dad's ERA E type model kit.
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This plated BRM model I think, was produced for Marks & Spencers.
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Love those models
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Yup. I just wish there were more reasonably priced kits around.

Has anyone managed to get to grips with scanning and then using a 3D printer?

I'd love to do a 1/32 or larger model of the Marcos Volvo 3L but to the best of my knowledge, apart from slot cars of the later wide body LM500/600 and the 1/43 Corgi V6, there is nothing!

I could probably modify a bonnet of the Corgi V6 but the model is also of the plywood chassis car rather than metal chassis and the tail lights are also different. Upscaling with 3D software shouldn't be too difficult after a scan, nor modifying before print, but not many people have got to grips with it as yet.
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Just scanned these. Somewhat random...

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First 2 might give someone apoplexy. First was probably taken about 1970 and the rights to reproduce these cars is now held by a Nottingham firm. Ironically, this particular car probably still exists, as it is shown on their website gallery, now with a black roof - and my pic was taken not too far from their current works.
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Another rarity from the Donington Collection. Is this still there I wonder? (I'll name them both later...)
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Club circuit Pukekohe 1983
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September 11th 1986
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September 11th 1986
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Intrigued by this pic, as I thought it was probably taken at the same time as the Marina V8, but as this is still in its plastic mount, it is stamped January 1987. That means I have no idea when it was actually taken!
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ERC wrote:Just scanned these. Somewhat random...

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First 2 might give someone apoplexy. First was probably taken about 1970 and the rights to reproduce these cars is now held by a Nottingham firm. Ironically, this particular car probably still exists, as it is shown on their website gallery, now with a black roof - and my pic was taken not too far from their current works.
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Another rarity from the Donington Collection. Is this still there I wonder? (I'll name them both later...)
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Club circuit Pukekohe 1983
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September 11th 1986
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September 11th 1986
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Intrigued by this pic, as I thought it was probably taken at the same time as the Marina V8, but as this is still in its plastic mount, it is stamped January 1987. That means I have no idea when it was actually taken!
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The Bellasi F1 car raced by Silvio Moser, IIRC in 1970, and the Capri was driven by Terry O'Brien ( I think).
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Thanks Sean regarding the Bellasi F1 car.
Don't you think it certainly looked a lot like the Lotus 70 F5000 car ?
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I can see the similarity, without the nostrils that the Lotus has... However, it has a very interesting story behind it!!
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ERC wrote:
September 11th 1986
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The Brent Willis machine?
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Silvio Moser purchased the Brabham BT24 that Piers Courage drove for Frank Williams in the 1969 Tasman series, re engined it and competed with it in F1 in 1969, earning a single point at the USGP at Watkins Glen. By that stage he knew he would need a monocoque chassis to replace the tubular framed Brabham, thats where Guglielmo Bellasi came in.

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Taking the Brabham as a base, Bellasi created a monocoque using the tubular frame as a sub frame, unfortunately, the result was nowhere near as competitive as the Brabham had been, Moser drove it through 1970 failing to qualify for all its appearances in 1970 except the Austrian GP, then returning in 1971, he only entered the non championship Argentinian GP and as a final appearance, the 1971 Italian GP.

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Yes it is Andrew
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seaqnmac277
correct Terry O'Brien in Capri had nice 302 from jet boat in it, motor duel use. later car was white. oh and it was quick.
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Well done Guys. Bellasi Cosworth.

The first pic was of a Mini based kit car, the Peel Viking, manufactured originally in the Isle of Man. Some of you will remember when Jeremy Clarkson drove a micro car into the office. That was a Peel 50. Same company.

Somewhat surprising that the new owners are prepared to re-manufacture. It was never a particularly attractive car in the way a De Joux, Unipower, GTM, Landar or even the Jem was.
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Gee. Scanning slides is a pain! Takes just over 2 minutes per slide just to do the initial scan, without cropping or colour correction and often two or three minutes to confirm the date (if known). Going through a massive drawer of slides but I know I won't get too far. Many are mounted in glass, (and have been for over 30 years) so often the scanned image isn't quite as clean as it should be, as taking them apart and cleaning the glass also takes an age.

Currently on the sports and GT section, with about 200 sorted and sequentially numbered, some of which have already been scanned.
Also a pile of unmounted slides - usually in singles, plus a pile still to be categorized.

Still several meetings where the date is unknown, UK and NZ.

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Prescott Hill Climb May 2nd 1970
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The John Pope Special 1977 at Croft.
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Cadwell Park, possibly 1980.
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Donington paddock, again, possibly 1980
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Tom Scott, Whenuapai probably 1994. Tom and family are well known to most local competitors as Tom drives one of the FIV vehicles, wife Anna is often Chief Marshal, daughter Debbie CoC, Son in law Martin also often an FIV driver, grand daughters Shiane now part of the race control team and Caitlin dummy grid marshal. Where would we be without them?
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Digital... Goodwood 2009
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