2017 formula junior world tour

[paul lancaster]

Just come home from commentating at levels raceway in timaru, the 2nd leg of 3 for the southern festival of speed.
what a breathtaking field of 50 odd fjs.
a big congrats and thankyou to all involved, will most likely never, ever see this many again , at levels again

[ERC]

See Nigel Watts' thread for pics of most of them.

One of my favourite race groups ever, as they transcended the switch from front engine to rear engine, looked like miniature F1 cars and you could see the drivers - and I can remember them from first time around!

Yup, big thanks to Duncan Rabagliati and our local heroes, Nigel Russell, Roger Herrick, Jim Barclay, John Holmes and many others who have not only been part of it, but have ensured its steady growth in NZ. Without them, I doubt the tour would have made it to these shores.

[Steve Holmes]

I agree Paul, an amazing feat to have this very significant celebration down racing in NZ.

[Terry S]

I agree Paul, an amazing feat to have this very significant celebration down racing in NZ.

I think Formula Junior is a wonderful class, and fantastic to see how you can run the same car in many parts of the world.

Perhaps I view it so highly because for many of us it was our first introduction to proper single seater racing back in the distant past.

I recall Warwick Farm meetings that included the following amongst others:

Leo Geoghegan - Lotus 22
Frank Matich - Elfin
Kevin Bartlett - Lynx
Glynn Scott - Lotus 20
Les Howard - Nota

Attached is a recent newsletter of the Australian Formula Junior Association, which includes wonderful stories on member's trips around England and Europe.

http://www.australianformulajunior.com/current.pdf

There are some great photos of these cars recently in NZ as part of their world tour on the Nigel Watts photo thread, in posts 799 to 816.

UFORTUNATELY still no details of make/ models which would be so informative for those of us deeply interested.

[paul lancaster]

My favourite terry were the many lotus 18s that were there, and martin bullock drove fantastic in a lotus 27

[GD66]

There are some great photos of these cars recently in NZ as part of their world tour on the Nigel Watts photo thread, in posts 799 to 816.

UFORTUNATELY still no details of make/ models which would be so informative for those of us deeply interested.

If you're deeply interested, the FJ race results are on mylaps. If you're even more deeply interested, get over to natsoft for some detective work, the results of the Barbagallo and Sandown meetings are on there including the makes and models, and in most cases the cars have held the same race numbers throughout the tour.

[Terry S]

If you're deeply interested, the FJ race results are on mylaps. If you're even more deeply interested, get over to natsoft for some detective work, the results of the Barbagallo and Sandown meetings are on there including the makes and models, and in most cases the cars have held the same race numbers throughout the tour.

Being from Oz I am not aware of what "mylaps" is. Can you advise and how I get into it?

[Oldfart]

To save anyone else incurring your displeasure Terry, Mylaps is a worldwide scoring system. I am guessing that the shorthand version http://www.mylaps.com should find your easier path to having a look. You will find a myriad of events. What you need to do is select the event that interests you, and there are a huge number of results, laptimes, etc, etc. It does take a little searching, ut most of your queries will be resolved.

[ERC]

Unfortunately, MyLaps only lists the drivers and not the cars! On their feedback I have requested they list the cars as otherwise, it is another step to find out the car details. Not impossible, but more time consuming.

[RogerH]

OK - here we go :

799
#127 Martin Bullock Lotus 27
#34 Joe Ricciardo Brabham BT6
#254 JR Mitchell Lotus 18
#272 Nick Grewal Lotus 18
#59 Robin Longdon Lola Mk5A
#73 Noel Woodford Gemini Mk3A

800
#77 Vern Williamson Lynx T3
#22 Richard Bishop-Miller Autosport Equipment Mk2
#9 Sir John Chisholm Gemini Mk2
#73 Peter Anstiss Lotus 20/22
#104 Jac Nellemann Alfa Dana
#8 Jim Blockley Caravelle Mk2


801
#4 Graham Barron Gemini Mk2
#150 David Watkins Elfin 629
#66 Tony Pearson Bandini
#39 Mike Rowe Koala P2
#111 Lance Carradine Lynx Lowline

802
#117 David Kent Lynx Mk3
#40 Bruce Edgar Elfin Catalina
#7 Neil McCrudden Lotus 20/22
#56 Peter Benbrook Cooper T56
# 150, 66, 73, 9 as above
#24 Kevin anderson Cooper T52


804
#21 Rob Williams Elva 100 BMC
#74 Walter Findlay Elva 100 DKW
#125 Nigel Russell Stanguellini


805
#17 Duncan Rabagliati Alexis HF101
#3 Tony Olissoff Emeryson Elfin Mk1
#51 Peter Boel Lola Mk5A
#18 John Holmes Lotus 18
#1 Roger Herrick Lola Mk2
#64 Garth Thomas Cooper T72 F3


rest later

[GD66]

You're a good man, Roger.

[Terry S]

To save anyone else incurring your displeasure Terry, Mylaps is a worldwide scoring system. I am guessing that the shorthand version http://www.mylaps.com should find your easier path to having a look. You will find a myriad of events. What you need to do is select the event that interests you, and there are a huge number of results, laptimes, etc, etc. It does take a little searching, ut most of your queries will be resolved.

I took the advice of Oldfart and GD66 and went into the site "mylaps.com".

What came up was "Please note that all results have been moved to separate websites".

[GD66]

Try mylaps Skope Classic 2017 Terry.

[ERC]

It says the site has been moved, but gives you the link anyway... It has moved to Speed Hive


https://speedhive.mylaps.com/#_ga=1.2876912.1127571788.1446788377

[Terry S]

OK - here we go :

799
#127 Martin Bullock Lotus 27
#34 Joe Ricciardo Brabham BT6
#254 JR Mitchell Lotus 18
#272 Nick Grewal Lotus 18
#59 Robin Longdon Lola Mk5A
#73 Noel Woodford Gemini Mk3A

800
#77 Vern Williamson Lynx T3
#22 Richard Bishop-Miller Autosport Equipment Mk2
#9 Sir John Chisholm Gemini Mk2
#73 Peter Anstiss Lotus 20/22
#104 Jac Nellemann Alfa Dana
#8 Jim Blockley Caravelle Mk2


801
#4 Graham Barron Gemini Mk2
#150 David Watkins Elfin 629
#66 Tony Pearson Bandini
#39 Mike Rowe Koala P2
#111 Lance Carradine Lynx Lowline

802
#117 David Kent Lynx Mk3
#40 Bruce Edgar Elfin Catalina
#7 Neil McCrudden Lotus 20/22
#56 Peter Benbrook Cooper T56
# 150, 66, 73, 9 as above
#24 Kevin anderson Cooper T52


804
#21 Rob Williams Elva 100 BMC
#74 Walter Findlay Elva 100 DKW
#125 Nigel Russell Stanguellini


805
#17 Duncan Rabagliati Alexis HF101
#3 Tony Olissoff Emeryson Elfin Mk1
#51 Peter Boel Lola Mk5A
#18 John Holmes Lotus 18
#1 Roger Herrick Lola Mk2
#64 Garth Thomas Cooper T72 F3


rest later

Thanks Roger, that is fantastic, and a great effort.

You really are putting some others to shame who couldn't be bothered making the effort.

Can I ask for interest where you got your info from.

Thanks again

[GD66]

[nigel watts]

Terry S,
if you don't like what we post then don't look
But for goodness sake please stop your whingeing because it seems lke YOU can't be bothered making the effort either.
I'm still waiting for you to point me to YOUR photos so I can see how you do it.
This forum is supposed to be, and is, a place where we enjoy looking at images and read stories, memories etc.
Unfortunately you are starting to spoil that experience.
Please stop.

[ERC]

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+1

[RogerH]

..to finish the one that was left unidentified :

#181 Greg Thornton Lotus 22


Terry - I am fortunate in that I know most of these cars as I have raced with a lot of them here and o/seas for a number of years. The few that I was a bit unsure of I got info from the Taupo Historic GP programme.

I think it would be very difficult and unreasonable for the photographers to be able to identify driver make year and model of the cars they photograph. I certainly wouldn't want to discourage them from taking and posting these great photos - some of them are of my car and I really appreciate the fantastic shots and often the action ones are very helpful in identifying such things as suspension set up issues.

If you really want to identify a particular car you could go to Mylaps and select "event results" and then New Zealand in the "All Countries" box and car racing in the "All Sports" box. Then scroll down and find the event you want (which the photographer usually lists as the venue for his photos). If they are of Formula Junior cars (for example) look at that race and you will find the car # and the driver's name. In most cases if you then Google the driver's name and "Formula Junior" then in images it should show the car which should then lead to a page identifying what sort of car it is.
A bit laborious but at least it will hopefully help to identify a particular car.

[khyndart in CA]

From Ken H to Roger H,
I want to thank you for compiling the listings for the Formula Junior field. I had started last night with my lame way of gathering the information together and almost fell asleep and then woke this morning and "bingo" you had done this wonderful input for ALL of us.
I think between the two of us we seem to have covered Nigel's wonderful photos of the Formula Juniors at Taupo.
( I went to the result site and got the car number and driver info. and then Googled each driver under "2017 formula junior world tour " even though it was slow it was very interesting and I learned a lot. )

Quote Originally Posted by Terry S View Post

Gee it would be wonderful to have some marque names of those beautiful formula juniors in the last 5 posts.
Terry, I will try my best for you. In order of appearance;

# 17 _ Duncan Rabagliati _ 1959 ALEXIS-BMC HF 101
# 64 _ Garth Thomas _ 1964 Cooper T72
# 25 _ Jim Barclay _ 1961 Gemini Mk 3 A
# 1 _ Roger Herrick _ Lola Mk 2
# 77_ Vernon Williamson _ 1960 Rytune Scorpion Ford
# 254 _ JR Mitchell _ Lotus 18
# 272 _ Nick Grewal _ Lotus 18
# 21 _ Rob Williams _ Elva
# 41 _ Walter Findlay _ 1959 Elva DKW
# 104 _ Jac Nellemann _ Alfa Dana
# 18 _ Noel Ately _ 1960 Lotus 18
# 66 _ Tony Pearson _ Bandini Fiat
# 22 _ Richard Bishop-Miller _ Autosport Mk 2
# 4 _ Graham Barron _ 1959 Gemini Mk 2
# 24 _ Kevin Anderson _ Cooper T 53 ?
# 28 _ Colin McKay _ Gemini Mk 2
# 39 _ Mike Rowe _ Koala
# 15 _ Max Pegram _ 1960 Gemini
# 3 _ Tony Olisoff _ Emeryson Elfin.

It may not be totally correct but I hope this is of help to you.

( Ken Hyndman )

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Quote Originally Posted by RogerH View Post

OK - here we go :

799
#127 Martin Bullock Lotus 27
#34 Joe Ricciardo Brabham BT6
#254 JR Mitchell Lotus 18
#272 Nick Grewal Lotus 18
#59 Robin Longdon Lola Mk5A
#73 Noel Woodford Gemini Mk3A

800
#77 Vern Williamson Lynx T3
#22 Richard Bishop-Miller Autosport Equipment Mk2
#9 Sir John Chisholm Gemini Mk2
#73 Peter Anstiss Lotus 20/22
#104 Jac Nellemann Alfa Dana
#8 Jim Blockley Caravelle Mk2


801
#4 Graham Barron Gemini Mk2
#150 David Watkins Elfin 629
#66 Tony Pearson Bandini
#39 Mike Rowe Koala P2
#111 Lance Carradine Lynx Lowline

802
#117 David Kent Lynx Mk3
#40 Bruce Edgar Elfin Catalina
#7 Neil McCrudden Lotus 20/22
#56 Peter Benbrook Cooper T56
# 150, 66, 73, 9 as above
#24 Kevin anderson Cooper T52


804
#21 Rob Williams Elva 100 BMC
#74 Walter Findlay Elva 100 DKW
#125 Nigel Russell Stanguellini


805
#17 Duncan Rabagliati Alexis HF101
#3 Tony Olissoff Emeryson Elfin Mk1
#51 Peter Boel Lola Mk5A
#18 John Holmes Lotus 18
#1 Roger Herrick Lola Mk2
#64 Garth Thomas Cooper T72 F3

#181 Greg Thornton Lotus 22

There, we have done it mate and I have more and more understanding of why Nigel and Ray etc. do not get involved in all the details. "If you want the info. go get the info !" This is not North Korea with no internet access.
The only question I have is how does Nigel get so many photos onto one page ?
(Time for lunch. Thanks again John H and Nigel )
Ken H