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Hey Kevin,
I no where u wos !

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Walton area in 1979.

U thort if I lived far away in California that I would no nuffin !

Hey I can remember going to Ngarua school to play rugby for Kiwitahi and the Clarke brothers would come down to coach us little urchins. Ian Clarke showed me how to pack into the side of the scrum by grabbing my ankle. I do not think I washed the ankle for a week ! (I had been touched by God !)
Another time when Ian was driving trucks for Waitoa Transport he arrived at our quarry and the gate was locked while dad was out on the farm. Mum and I watched from a distance amazed as Ian just crouched down and lifted the gate off it's hinges, laid it down and drove his truck into the quarry and started loading it up ! (Another memory unrelated to this thread..sorry Roger. )

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khyndart in CA wrote:Hey Kevin,
I no where u wos !

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Walton area in 1979.

U thort if I lived far away in California that I would no nuffin !

Hey I can remember going to Ngarua school to play rugby for Kiwitahi and the Clarke brothers would come down to coach us little urchins. Ian Clarke showed me how to pack into the side of the scrum by grabbing my ankle. I do not think I washed the ankle for a week ! (I had been touched by God !)
Another time when Ian was driving trucks for Waitoa Transport he arrived at our quarry and the gate was locked while dad was out on the farm. Mum and I watched from a distance amazed as Ian just crouched down and lifted the gate off it's hinges, laid it down and drove his truck into the quarry and started loading it up ! (Another memory unrelated to this thread..sorry Roger. )

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All good Ken, related in that it is about people who own or owned cars most of which were old when we bought them, could not afford new ones and looking closer at the map, I think our " run " around the block was anti-clockwise so all left hand turns, remember seeing 95 mph on the PB's speedo, near the kink by the side road " Given Road " Garth would have been driving ..
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Roger- was your PB the model that had the needle for indicating speed or the revolving tube with the colour -e.g.green 30-40. orange 40-50, red for over 60 mph and black for over 100mph?
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John McKechnie wrote:Roger- was your PB the model that had the needle for indicating speed or the revolving tube with the colour -e.g.green 30-40. orange 40-50, red for over 60 mph and black for over 100mph?


Yes I think so, they had a fancy dash, The car was Bruce Fawcetts but Garth his son and I used to
" borrow " it, much as I would " borrow " my Dad's Mk 111 Zephyr .
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Geez Roger,
I hope you were not driving like that when ( OLDFART) Rhys's Mum was driving these roads on her way from Matamata to Morrinsville to try and teach something worthwhile into us little urchins with brains full of mush !



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She was no slug either! In the 1930s she was driving over the Rimutakas in a Willys 88, and was only ever 5'1". She was happy touring all over NZ, often on her own from the 30s until she passed away in the 2010s.
One day on the way back from said Morrinsville she arrived home and asked me to have a look to see if I could fix the accelerator cable on her VW. I asked why, and she said it had broken, so naturally I asked how she got home. On the side of the road she had swapped the choke cable to the accelerator linkage and drove home using the choke lever as a hand throttle.
Later teaching at Putaruru she proudly told us that the Peugeot 404 was now run in and said she had tried it out to see what top speed really was. She was proud to say the speedo said more than the sales brochure said was top speed. That said 90+ mph!
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Oldfart Rhys .. " brilliant " as Chaindrive would say ..
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Vintage Car Rally 1972 - Hawkes Bay, New Zealand - back to the topic, briefly

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Enjoying the stories Ken H, Oldfart and Kevin Hirst, as made me think back and remember great things happening as a young lad.
Here are a few more pictures, almost the last of them..

1924 Rolls Royce, featured in a B & W shot earlier on..
Vintage Rally 1972 # 37 1924 Rolls Royce 28 CCI08052016 (800x530).jpg


1930 Buick, a modern one compared to Dons 1919, featured previously..
Vintage Rally 1972 #38 1930 Buick 8-90 29 CCI08052016_0001 (543x800).jpg


1929 De Soto
Vintage Rally 1972 #39 1929 De Soto 30 CCI08052016_0002 (800x530).jpg


A very English and large car , rival for a Bentley 1929 Vauxhall [ Hurlingham !! ].
Vintage Rally 1972 #40 1929 Vauxhall 31 CCI08052016_0003 (800x544).jpg


1924 Mercedes, a pair of photos, ready to leave on the days run..
Vintage Rally 1972 #41 1924 Mercedes fr view  32 CCI08052016_0004 (547x800).jpg


Vintage Rally 1972 #42 1924 Mercedes angled view 33 CCI08052016_0005 (800x545).jpg


that is all for today .. the final few soon !!, back to you Ken H .. cheers
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Vintage Car Rally 1972 - Hawkes Bay, New Zealand - the last photos ..

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This is I believe the last, certainly of the coloured ones from the International Rally in 1972.. may have a few odd Vintage shots, but will need to find them, [ my usual comment ].

Leaving the gates of the park, Ford Model A at the gate, Mercedes in the middle and an Austin, I think closest to camera.
Vintage Rally 1972 #42 departing ; Ford A, Mercedes and close an Austin ! 34 CCI09052016 (800x53.jpg


a 1929 Essex Super 6, owned by B Ogston .. two views ;
Vintage Rally 1972 #44 1929 Essex Super Six B Ogston 35 CCI09052016_0001 (538x800).jpg


Vintage Rally #45 1929 Essex B Ogston 36 CCI09052016_0002 (800x524).jpg


my handwritten list of the photos, must have borrowed a programme [ possibly from Don Osborne - 1919 Buick ] to get the information, in my terrible and then minute handwriting / printing.
Vintage Rally 1972 # 46 my list of photos 37 CCI09052016_0003 (477x800).jpg


Another folder of photos can now be put away !!.

Take it away Ken H ..
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Pretty sure that the Vauxhall Hurlingham is owned by Dick Langridge and is on display at his business- Metropolitan Rentals, Dominion Rd, Mt Eden.
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The 1924 Mercedes was christened 'Monster', by its creator, the late Bob Pritchett [that's Bob, with wife/navigator, Phyl in the car]. He grafted the Mercedes engine and drive-line into a Crossley chassis. When I asked Bob when the car was finished, he said that he started the project in 1938, and drove to Melbourne for the 1956 Olympics...so somewhere in between. Bob was a founder member of the VSCCA.

One of the best examples of Aussie 'specials', and it is still regularly exercised by Tim Shellshear, in VSCCA events.
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The 1924 Mercedes was christened 'Monster', by its creator,

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Greg Mackie wrote:The 1924 Mercedes was christened 'Monster', by its creator, the late Bob Pritchett [that's Bob, with wife/navigator, Phyl in the car]. He grafted the Mercedes engine and drive-line into a Crossley chassis. When I asked Bob when the car was finished, he said that he started the project in 1938, and drove to Melbourne for the 1956 Olympics...so somewhere in between. Bob was a founder member of the VSCCA.

One of the best examples of Aussie 'specials', and it is still regularly exercised by Tim Shellshear, in VSCCA events.


Greg, thanks for you information, interesting car then. I thought that it was all Mercedes, the story makes it even more a " Special " Vintage Special .

I see your location is Southern Highlands NSW , we visited Tallong to stay with friends over Easter and went to the markets at Barrawong and to a winery at Berrima, a great part of Australia
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John McKechnie wrote:Pretty sure that the Vauxhall Hurlingham is owned by Dick Langridge and is on display at his business- Metropolitan Rentals, Dominion Rd, Mt Eden.


John, thanks, believe have seen it there some years ago ..
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Roger Dowding wrote:During a trip around East Cape and down to Hawkes Bay in 1971 came across the competitors in a Vintage Rally, photo's taken in Napier from memory

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Not on the Rally, seen at the roadside a Chevrolet truck which appears to be a cut down car, looking at the door edge.
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Our transport was more modern a 1966 850cc Mini, the sprint, hillclimb trial and gymkhana car on the weekend, daily driver during the week.


Have realised that the event was in 1972 and been sent a copy of the front page of the " Official Souvenir Book "

Vintage Rally 1972 #45 The Programme Event Booklet - cover J Manhire.jpg
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Vintage Car Rally 1972 - Hawkes Bay, New Zealand - back to the topic !

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(Another memory unrelated to this thread..sorry Roger. )

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Just looking again at this thread, and comments by Kevin Hirst and Ken Hyndman about Walton and the surrounds.
Kevin and I actually met at Caffeine and Classics back in July this year and we both own MX5's the one he was in belonged to " The Boss ", his wife.
Kevin now lives " Up North " Mangawhai ?, and Ken you are in California, so I am now the closest to your old " Neck of the Woods " and in fact get closer as we visit Te Poi to stay on a farm and go to Matamata while there, plus sometimes pass through on or back from Auckland.

Must have a look through more " Vintage Car /Bike " photos to see what I haven't posted.

This one I have, it shows my TR4A quite early in ownership so Mid 1978 - before Russ Abbot,whom I bought it of fitted the three point roll bar -it had a inverted U mounting over the driveshaft tunnel and the side bars connected to the rear wheel arches. In another of the " Small World " stories - Had to get new tyres for my Suzuki SX4 and went to the local Tyre Guy at " Omokoroa Tyres and Alignment " next door to the Wof Guy and his name is Steve Abbott.
Turns out he is Russ's son and asked me later if I was into Triumphs - before I twigged who he was and the family. We are now locals in the same " Town " !!

The TR4 and a Motorbike at Manganui Northland back in 1978.

Vintage Motorcycles 1978-9 #5 Mc and my TR4A CCI12012016 (732x750).jpg
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Vintage Car Rally 1972 - Hawkes Bay, New Zealand moving South

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I posted my photos of the 1972 International Vintage Car Club Rally a while ago on this thread.
Have just come across the " Nelson Photo News " photos from their Issues #135 February 1972 and #136 March 1972.
This is the same Magazine /Newspaper that did the Tahunanui Beach races, the Pig Valley Hillclimb and other Nelson Car Club and Tasman Stock car Club events.

Bringing the thread forward - nothing since 2018.
Photos of the cars in Nelson

Vintage Rally 1972 #52 B Article Nelson Photo News P1 NPN135_19720205_003 (465x600).jpg


Vintage Rally 1972 #53 B Article Nelson Photo News P2 NPN135_19720205_003 (504x640).jpg


Vintage Rally 1972 #54 B Article Nelson Photo News P3 NPN135_19720205_004 (501x640).jpg


Vintage Rally 1972 #56 B Article Nelson Photo News P1 NPN136_19720304_003  (501x640).jpg


The first 4 pages - 3 more to follow.
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Vintage Car Rally 1972 - The Old Ones Arrive.

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As the headline said " The Old Ones are Coming " then " The Old Ones Arrive " and here they are :

Vintage Rally 1972 #56 B Article Nelson Photo News P1 NPN136_19720304_003  (501x640).jpg

Posted again as the 4 pages of the March issue - Magazine " Nelson Photo News "

Vintage Rally 1972 #57 B Article Nelson Photo News P2 NPN136_19720304_003  (499x640).jpg


Vintage Rally 1972 #59 B Article Nelson Photo News P3 NPN136_19720304_004  (500x640).jpg


Vintage Rally 1972 #60 B Article Nelson Photo News P4 NPN136_19720304_004  (497x640).jpg


The Cover of the Rally Book again ; Not mine although I do remember having one back then
Copy from John Manhire's archives - John runs the Facebook Page " South Island Motorsport ".

Vintage Rally 1972 #45 The Programme Event Booklet - cover J Manhire.jpg
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Vintage of a different sort the Gipsy Riley / Riley Moth

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Photos from the NZ Classic Driver Magazine issue #47 from 2013, by Tony Haycock.

Motoring Books #83 Riley Moth 3 2019_09_27_1007 (527x800).jpg


Motoring Books #88 Riley Moth 8 2019_09_27_1009 (655x800).jpg


Motoring Books #99 Riley Moth 11 2019_09_27_1011 (532x800).jpg


Motoring Books #101 Riley Moth 10 2019_09_27_1013 (800x533).jpg


Static photo by Nigel Watts - posted on another thread.

Vintage Riley Moth #2 Nigel Watts IMG_3029.JPG


Action photo by ERC Ray Green at Chelsea Walsh 2015.

Riley #5 Riley Moth Chelsea 2015 Ray Green .jpg


Thanks TRS members for the " borrows ".

Richard McNair - son of Wallace McNair built the car a 1931 Riley 9, with the Gypsy Moth 6.1 litre engine - same as in Richard's Tiger Moth - aeroplane..
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Hunua Hundred Rally 1971 Auckland Veteran & Vintage Car Club

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Have found some more photo's - to be scanned and posted - only 6 ..

Hunua Hundred 1971 #21 Auckland VVCC sign CCI27092015 (800x735).jpg


Posting them soon.
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Hunua Hundred Rally 1971 Auckland Veteran & Vintage Car Club - last pictures.

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Been busy scanning and sorting [ ERC knows what that is like as do many others - takes time ] found the Hunua Hundred photos and a set of 8 or so from Gold Coast Indy 2003 - but not the Indy Cars - will post them on Lakeside [ my Australia thread ] .

Hunua Hundred 24th October 1971 [ coming up 48 years ago ]
- the 1930 Model A Ford that I was navigator in - Charles ' Charlie ' Liddell checking the Radiator, with me watching.

Hunua Hundred 1971 #26 Ford Model A Charlie Liddell and I CCI07102019 (765x800).jpg


At the park the finish - checking again - with other cars Charlie checking and my Mate Peter in the background.

Hunua Hundred 1971 #27 Model A Ford C Liddell and others CCI07102019_0001 (739x800).jpg


Another Model A Tudor Coupe and a Truck

Hunua Hundred 1971 #28 Model A Tudor and Van CCI07102019_0002 (2).jpg


Yet another Model A - A Roadster

Hunua Hundred 1971 #29 Model A Roadster CCI07102019_0003 (2).jpg


Talbots Left and Right of a Buick

Hunua Hundred 1971 #31 Talbot l Buick c Talbot r CCI07102019_0004 (2).jpg


Last one a Graham - Paige Coupe - looks like a DKW and Ford Zephyr beside /behind the tree.

Hunua Hundred 1971 #32 Graham Paige Coupe CCI07102019_0005 (2).jpg


John Mck probably knows some of the cars -has worked on them ??

Charlie's Car is still on the NZ Register

" Year: 1930
Make: FORD
Model: SEDAN
Colour: Black
Second Colour: Red
Body Style: Saloon
Plate: BZ3656
Engine No: CAE404
Chassis: CAU1343 "

The accompanying photo on Carjam the Car is Red and Black - I do not remember !
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