New Zealand Historic Saloon Cars Under HRC

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Our next race meeting is Legends, at Hampton Downs on 1st, 2nd and 3rd April.
Again we will be joining HMC on the grid and I for one will be coming up to meet and be part of the fun.
If you have any queries regarding this meeting please contact myself mailto:?subject=&body= or Dale mailto:?subject=&body=
COD's will be required and remember to make sure your car is compliant.

The next large meeting is in November at the MG Classic at Manfeild where we will have our own grid together with HMC and again only compliant cars with COD's will be accepted to join this grid.
Start planning for it and again any queries please email Dale or myself.
We want to put on a good show down at Manfeild so please let us know if you are intending to partake.

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Looks damn good , great photos etc ........ question = 4 speed rocket G/box I thought would not be man enough for a BDG or have i been given wrong info ? Thanks for sharing plus info ...... Grant
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This engine reminds me of Rex Harts escort pictured here

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Hopefully Paul can start a seperate thread for his build. If it is anything like his Zakspeed, and his old Broadspeed BDG ( which i think this car was? ), it'll be first class.
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Grant Sprague wrote:Looks damn good , great photos etc ........ question = 4 speed rocket G/box I thought would not be man enough for a BDG or have i been given wrong info ? Thanks for sharing plus info ...... Grant


This is the issue when you are building a car to Appendix K Grant. You must use what was homologated for that car and in this instance it is either the Rocket box or the ZF 5 speed.

You can not use the type 9 Serria box as it was out of period.
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Grant Sprague wrote:Looks damn good , great photos etc ........ question = 4 speed rocket G/box I thought would not be man enough for a BDG or have i been given wrong info ? Thanks for sharing plus info ...... Grant


The engine I use is strong and makes the right numbers so from what people suggest gearbox should have been a problem.I used this gearbox for many years, not too many issues. Broke a selector fork and a gearstick, but the internals never gave an issue. Still uses English axle with a semi gloating hub. We broke the Quaife axles every time we used it until we remade them locally, then they managed to last.
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Our next meeting and last before the winter break is just over a week away. Make sure if you haven't entered to do so as this is a relaxed and fun event. Again we will be joining HMC and together will put on another good showing.
There are a few new racers joining us for this event with different cars.

I am coming up from sunny Feilding for the weekend and looking forward to catching up with you all.

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It has been a while since our last meeting.

It was a wet Legends meeting at HD but we all survived on at sometimes a very slippery track. Good turn out of 9 HSC and 10 HMC cars in total.

We now prepare for our next major meeting which is MG Classic at Mainfeild in November.
This is our first venture to MG and we will run as a combind group in our own grid.
I ask that you support MG as it is a fantastic event and has been running for over 30 years.

I will post our programe for the 2016/7 season for you all to see and plan for.

We also have a Mazda RX3 Coupe jion us and I will give details of this car later.
This is bringing out more Japanesse classics which now totals 6 cars...the more the merrier.

Also joining us is David Thompson in his beautifully restored Auto Trader Mk1 Escort. Details and photos to come.

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Current next Seasons 2016/17 Event Dates are :

1, 8th October 2016, TACCOC Classic one day Saturday- Hampton Downs (Bathurst the next day)
2, 11/13th Nov 2016, Wellington MG Car Club Classic-Manfeild (HMC/HSC Only)
3, 27th Nov 2016, TACCOC Classic one day Sunday-Pukekohe
4, 13/15th January 2017, NZFMR Festival Ken Smith-Hampton Downs(ATA over)
5, 20/22nd January 2017, NZFMR Festival Ken Smith-Hampton Downs (ATA over)
6, 10/12th February 2017, Timaru Classic-Levels Timaru( 60 yrs Formula Junior World Tour)
7, 17/19th February 2017, Teretonga Classic-Invercargill (Support our southern HMC/HSC friends)
8, 1/2nd April 2017, Legends of Speed-Hampton Downs-HRC Event.

It is a pretty intense programme and we are currently sorting out travel, accomodation for the South Island events and if you are interested please drop me a PM.
All HSC cars will be required to be COD compliant for these events and if you have an issue please contact me to discuss.

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Here is Grant Sprague's new project, which will be an Appendix K car powered by a BDG.

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It'll be painted the same colours as his brother Gary's Twin-cam that raced in period.

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Latest car to join Historic Saloon Cars is Murray Poot's beautiful 1973 Datsun Coupe. Murray is just going through his COD application with Dave Graham so that they can be processed through MSNZ. Car is 1200 cc and bored out and is a recreation of the car he raced years ago in ShellSport complete with livery.

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Thats a neat looking car, very welcome addition , will be great seeing that mixing it with the Escorts and RX2s
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Stunning BDG powered Broadspeed Escort RS1600 replica. This car was built in New Zealand (by Dave Silcock?), but was sold to a buyer in the UK. Now for sale again. Has a current FIA Historic Technical Passport. It won't be cheap, but a very cool car to have that would/should be eligible for HSC.

More info here: https://www.motorsportauctions.com/category/358/Historic-Touring-Cars/listings/36268/Ford-Escort-RS-1600-MkI-FIA-spec.html

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[quote="Steve Holmes"]Stunning BDG powered Broadspeed Escort RS1600 replica. This car was built in New Zealand (by Dave Silcock?), but was sold to a buyer in the UK. Now for sale again. Has a current FIA Historic Technical Passport. It won't be cheap, but a very cool car to have that would/should be eligible for HSC.


Yes built by Dave Silcock and to some degree much of the geometry was copied from the ex Fahey car
The donor shell (1300 GT road car) and the original 1600 BDA that was fitted (incl quite rare HART cam box cover) was supplied ex Alan Hewlett
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MTW201P wrote:
Steve Holmes wrote:Stunning BDG powered Broadspeed Escort RS1600 replica. This car was built in New Zealand (by Dave Silcock?), but was sold to a buyer in the UK. Now for sale again. Has a current FIA Historic Technical Passport. It won't be cheap, but a very cool car to have that would/should be eligible for HSC.


Yes built by Dave Silcock and to some degree much of the geometry was copied from the ex Fahey car
The donor shell (1300 GT road car) and the original 1600 BDA that was fitted (incl quite rare HART cam box cover) was supplied ex Alan Hewlett


Thanks for the great info.
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Three HSC racers, Ian Williamson (RX2), Michael Eden (Viva), and Bill Ritchie (Giulia) all pictured at Manfield on the weekend, sorting their cars and sharpening their reflexes in preparation for the first appearance of HMC/HSC at the MG Classic in November.

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Friday just been, and Grant Sprague was out testing his newly acquired Escort RS2000 at Hampton Downs. This is apparently the first time Grant has been on track in 15 years.

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Anyone requiring accommodation at PN for the MG Classic in November. Have one single bed available for 2 nights. Cost $130.00.
let me know if interested.
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Steve Holmes wrote:Friday just been, and Grant Sprague was out testing his newly acquired Escort RS2000 at Hampton Downs. This is apparently the first time Grant has been on track in 15 years.....................................Grant>>>>..........13 years Steve...I sold the Mustang ....but time does fly .......... Geeeeee what a fantastic learning curve , I thought I would just rock up on a test day & learn this beautiful circuit & be sort of close to the other little ford pintos & that was not to be the case , the first session a bit damp & wet , corners blind in places , missing apexes, getting annoyed & started over driving going & slower.....came back in slowed my self down & went quicker by not being silly going back to smooth mode , but still a long way off to where we need to be on saying that we did a big think tank and looked at things that I know will improve the car plus more laps for me at Hampton we hope in a forward direction & at least get closer to the other little fords . I was told not to take this class seriously!!!!!! lol we need to find a lot of time to even consider being serious, it sure is no ball of fire but its going to be fun it will get better.......roll on manfield that will be a great weekend , humble pie is cool ... Thank you HMC..... Kind regards, Grant

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[quote="Steve Holmes"]Friday just been, and Grant Sprague was out testing his newly acquired Escort RS2000 at Hampton Downs. This is apparently the first time Grant has been on track in 15 yrs
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Good on you Grant! I'm sure with a little more seat time you'll be right back into the swing of things.
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