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Ray, I have not had any personal involvement with your series, but am sure that many may be glad you are solely on the sidelines. (Take that whichever way you want, but it's meant as a jest) I did love to see the Marcos out there on the rare occasions when I got down, We do need to see more of the different cars, and without your input, both as competitor and co-ordinator NZ motorsport would be a much less rich environment
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Great grids by you jokers over the past couple of weekends! Standout cars for me include the Alfa 75, and Rons Alfasud (I am a bit Alfa biased...) but otherwise a grid of well turned out cars all being driven well!

ImageIMG_5139 by Richard Opie, on Flickr

You might need to have a word to this chap, wouldn't want these unorthodox lines into Turn 10 to become tooooo popular!
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Snoozin wrote:Great grids by you jokers over the past couple of weekends! Standout cars for me include the Alfa 75, and Rons Alfasud (I am a bit Alfa biased...) but otherwise a grid of well turned out cars all being driven well!

ImageIMG_5139 by Richard Opie, on Flickr

You might need to have a word to this chap, wouldn't want these unorthodox lines into Turn 10 to become tooooo popular!



The only words he needs to hear is 'Great effort to do 2 complete 360s at full noise and still line up for the sweeper and not hit 1 of about 20 cars around him' He was hung out to dry by being moved onto the grass but thank god it all ended good. Impressive handicapping to have full field all arriving at sweeper at same time.
Looking at photo he is watching were he is going (backwards fast) and dab on picks brings her back around. I gave him thumb up when he came into pits and he shrugged and put hands in air.
Top effort.
PS Snoozin I know what you were meaning, and top shot, in right spot again.
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I guess this forum is as good a place as any to tell you all about the presentation that was made by Deb Day to Ray and his wife at the conclusion of the prizegiving yesterday afternoon. It celebrated the 20 plus years that they have put into this series and resulted in every person in the room rising to their feet - a fitting tribute indeed!
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Fantastic shot!!!!

Weekend 1, Ricky spent all weekend trying to resolve issues with the car. It wouldn't rev, despite replacing just about everything possible in the electrics department. Not sure even now what caused the problems but he was back on the pace Saturday and Sunday of weekend 2.

Check out the incar video for race #17 - about 8 minutes in. For my money, one of the best drivers in the series.

https://www.youtube.com/user/240ZRicky

I'll try and post links of any following cars video.

Adam Jones - who won the last handicap race by a split second, is a professional film maker (he did the Bruce Manon video) and is going to put an ERC video together, using a mix of shots and hopefully, also including the Hampton Downs video of external shots.


I haven't fully analysed the two weekends as yet, but weekend 1 was 32 cars and weekend 2 was 42. Sad that injuries and cars broken before the weekends, reduced the fields a wee bit, but if spectators enjoyed the ERC Series racing, please post a comment on the NZFMR facebook page...

To put things into perspective, just one safety car intervention over the two weekends, when one car (#19 - Porsche) had an electrical smoke up and ended up parked in an unsafe position.

Couple of minor dings, with one driver sent home on the Sunday of weekend 2.

No red flags, no exploding cars, very few yellow flags and lots of big grins. Very, very proud of the guys who, as a series, fly under the radar, with virtually zero pre event publicity, despite some fantastic, close racing - with OVERTAKING!!!!
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Michael Clark wrote:I guess this forum is as good a place as any to tell you all about the presentation that was made by Deb Day to Ray and his wife at the conclusion of the prizegiving yesterday afternoon. It celebrated the 20 plus years that they have put into this series and resulted in every person in the room rising to their feet - a fitting tribute indeed!

Very humbling Michael! If it wasn't for the fact that the guys are such a delight to deal with (most of them, most of the time!) then I wouldn't have hung around for so long.

Few people outside the series would realise just how strong the camaraderie is, with humour a very dominant aspect. Of all the excellent classic/historic series around, we believe that ERC epitomises the real values of classic racing as well as any other and probably, that adherence to a 100% reliance on handicap races levels the playing field better than any technical rules based system.

My own thanks not only to Deb (and her team) but also to Tony Rutherford for insisting I did 3 "Hot laps" in the safety car, but all the officials who have supported both me and the series for so long.

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I still have a couple of race meetings to go and the awards dinner June 11th, before I hand over to Chris Browne and although there are on-going challenges to be faced, we have always agreed on the philosophy and I will of course offer Chris every bit of support he needs.
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Brilliant racing by all, especially the ERC Classic Race Series (NZ) which again had the best supported grid and anecdotally the best racing to watch, but unfortunately never seems to get the recognition it deserves. Perhaps the powers that be could look at the numbers we get in our races and the fact that most classic racers do so on a relatively small budget and acknowledge this more openly and support the series (and other similar series). As a racer the delays between races and car recovery times can be mind numbing, just a suggestion but could we not run fast recovery vehicles (such as the large quads at Taupo) and quickly pull the stricken cars off behind safety barriers rather than red flag or yellow flag races for multiple laps. Also a safety car just past the pit entry allowing the finished race cars to exit the track whilst the next grid could leave the pit exit behind another safety car and get the grid ready much quicker. Both these point should save a massive amount of time during each race meeting. On a positive note the cars at the event were stunning and a big thanks to all that attended, also a thank you here for the fantastic work done by Ray Green over the millennia, no pressure but boy has Mr Brown got big shoes to fill.
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Award for the ERC Series "Spirit of the Meeting" was to Alan Brook, who had a hiccup Friday weekend 1 with the car, then drove well throughout the two weekends. Great support from wife Chrissie who "Mother Hens" the drivers with grid sheets and making sure all is OK.

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Well done Alan & Chrissie
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Michael Clark wrote:I guess this forum is as good a place as any to tell you all about the presentation that was made by Deb Day to Ray and his wife at the conclusion of the prizegiving yesterday afternoon. It celebrated the 20 plus years that they have put into this series and resulted in every person in the room rising to their feet - a fitting tribute indeed!


I wasn't at the prize giving but if anyone deserved a presentation it was Ray. A fantastic job over 20 odd years, starting with the old BMC series. Well done Ray, enjoy the time off, I look forward to seeing you at the track looking a lot less frazzled. May your series grow and prosper.

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Thanks Richard.

Just had this pic posted to me from Donn White, of the first ever grid for the BMC Series, November 23rd 1986 at Taupo. He has named the front runners, so we are not looking to identify the grid.

Tony Sturm won that first race (MGB) and AMCO (Mini Cooper S) won the series.

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Can just see Stu Hoopers Austin A35 on the second row. Stu was always an entertaining driver.......he managed to upend the Austin in one race........cant remember the details, but I dont think we saw the car again. They always looked a bit top heavy, but some folk made them go pretty well.........
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This is the year 1 summary of the original BMC Series giving the points earned and also how many years each driver registered including the roll over to the Leisuretime/Tracer years and the AES/Arrow Wheels sponsorship years.

Up to the end of last season, we still had less than 400 drivers who have ever registered, including those who may have registered but never actually raced and therefore scored zero points. As at today, 113 paid up registered drivers for this season - and they are still joining!

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Interesting that of the above list, no less than 8 drivers never registered again. I wonder why? I'd love to know.
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I have to say that I won the series that year NOT because of any outstanding driving ability on my part........in my opinion, but rather that I had the best car for the job.......in my opinion!!!!!!!!! It all changed in subsequent years when everyone else got in on the act and cars became increasingly modified, and driving became more seriously focused. We still managed to get away with surprisingly little panel damage, considering our amateur status, but there was some. Inevitably, some of the gentlemanly 'after you Sir' went out the door, and a bit more 'out of my way sonny I'm coming through' became the norm. But compared to today we were pretty slow......a 50 second lap of old Taupo was pretty damn good, and most of us could get round in under 56 seconds. Amazing that it was 30 years ago.....sometimes seems just like last week.
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Interesting AMCO that I perceived the same thing when I inherited the series (and the reason for it). At the end of my first season, I realised that it was indeed one or two of the faster guys who really wanted to win, and saw that as a disincentive to the 'also-rans', hence the move to 100% handicaps..

The rest as they say, is history. There can of course only be one winner in any race, but if there is a field of just 3, scrapping for overall honours, it isn't really my cup of tea.
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This site is causing me hiccups today!

ERC Series entry for what is my last round before I hand over the Series. Might have to contact Steve to change my TRS name but without losing all previous posts.

Grant Kern is giving his "Cream Cracker" MG TD a run! Sadly, I don't think we'll see the MGCC Series running next season.

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6 Mal Clark Rover P6 3500
28 Michael Sexton Ford Escort RS2000
69 Dennis McConnell Ford Escort Lotus Twin Cam
79 Gary Langsford Alfa 75
83 Nigel Patterson BMW 320i
88 Bruce Manon Ford Escort RS2000
93 Ivan Selak Escort YB Cosworth
117 John Sampson Ford Capri RS2600
119 Eddie Beresford Alfa Romeo Alfasud Ti
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17 Peter Northin Ford Escort RS2000
20 Geoff Sparkes Triumph Dolomite Sprint
21 Bryce Platt Porsche 924S
29 Mike Lucas Austin Mini Cooper S
30 Rod Hemmings TVR 3000M
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45 John Nuthall Alfa Romeo GT
47 Gary Baildon BMW 325is
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What a cracker!...
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Just a few days now to the celebration of 30 years of the Series and between 150 and 160 people attending the awards dinner - and my hand over to Chris Browne. Then I can swan off June 20th for a long break!

Massive thanks to BNT, CRC and AES for their very generous support of the evening and the expectation that we'll raise a fair bit for the Child Cancer charity.

Also an evening for a load of laughs!
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As expected, a load of laughs! Look out for Adam's excellent ERC promo video. Will be on YouTube, but may need one sector censoring!

Time now for me to wrap up, but before I do, I'll post a list of the award winners and the amount we raised for Child Cancer. Off overseas on Monday, so will have to get my skates on.
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