New Zealand Historic Muscle Cars Under HRC

[Murray Maunder]

Nice one Dewi (and Awyn). You certainly covered the ground over the first 3 days and picke up some lovely angles and captured the spirit of ATA v HMC.

[DewiAusTransAm]

Thanks a lot Murray, we hope that we covered both the on and off track action, as both are just as important as each other.
Week 2 highlights here:
[video=youtube;vgLRt7Lq0mE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vgLRt7Lq0mE&feature=youtu.be[/video]

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That's the last from weekend 1

[Kiwiboss]

Hi All, really been behind the 8 ball recently with my recent workshop move which im slowly sorting(no thanks to Telecom or Spark as they call themselves) as soon as I get a chance i'll get a newsletter out but our next event is the Legends, March 28/29th at Hampton so aim for that, we will run with the HSC group. The feedback from the Festival has been huge, 10 PH calls the day after(just what I needed, LOL) and certainly our alignment with Australian Trans Am is working with great parity between both groups. We still have issues to sort and one was too many on track incidents(including myself) but some of it was just stupid stuff(including myself) but we'll work though these one at a time!! Certainly it was "brain overload" for myself as I had other class's asking for help and a few HSC guys not happy they didn't have a class at the Festival(or racing with us) but can't be all to everyone.

As apart of our bi-annual ATA/HMC agreement we will once again be travelling to Australia to race later this year, looking likely we'll once again have 8 cars taking this trip but others are welcome. First event will be the Lakeside Historics, Brisbane late July and the Muscle car Master at Eastern Creek, Sydney fathers day early September, more to come about this!!

The out come from a general group meeting at the Festival is we will form a "Drivers Committee" to help organise and run HMC, the plan is form HMC nation wide to take in the south Island, we will be directly aligned with the Historic and Classic Commission side of MSNZ, their COD system is working for us and its now mandatory to have one. Once again more to come on this but if anyone that understands historic saloon car racing and wants to get involved please contact myself, Steve H, Tony R or Steve Elliott.

Dale M

[Steve Holmes]

HMC racer Steve Elliott found this one on Craigslist. Obviously it'll need some changes made to comply, and some $$$$ spent, but as a good entry level car, you won't find much cheaper: https://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/4914737288.html

[Kiwiboss]

HMC racer Steve Elliott found this one on Craigslist. Obviously it'll need some changes made to comply, and some $$$$ spent, but as a good entry level car, you won't find much cheaper: https://atlanta.craigslist.org/nat/cto/4914737288.html

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This race car is a hell-off a deal at $19500USD, infact I doubt its still available(but please check) I see this Mustang is on the east coast in Connecticut(probably under 6 foot of snow at the moment), I have good contacts with the owner of Cobra Automotive so if anyone is keen here in NZ I can help hook them up.

Dale M

[Rod Grimwood]

Dale and all the HMC Guy's and Gal's, a great show at the Festival and impressive display of beautiful well presented historic muscle. (cars not the guy's). You have a great thing going, and along with the Aussie's you have it working. Pity about some of the damage, but this doe's/can happen, and I hurt as much as you guy's seeing it.
Keep up the great work team.

[fullnoise68]

This race car is a hell-off a deal at $19500USD, infact I doubt its still available(but please check) I see this Mustang is on the east coast in Connecticut(probably under 6 foot of snow at the moment), I have good contacts with the owner of Cobra Automotive so if anyone is keen here in NZ I can help hook them up.

Dale M

According to my US sources - not tomato sauces - this Mustang has been sold to a skidder in Finland. There was also another Camaro like mine sold to Europe very recently where the seller offered the Camaro for one price, and each individual accompanying log book for another, per book. The log books have no value if you are just going to run the car in a Mickey Duck anything goes class, but they create a lot of value if you run in a proper `historic' type class anywhere in the world .....

[Kiwiboss]

According to my US sources - not tomato sauces - this Mustang has been sold to a skidder in Finland. There was also another Camaro like mine sold to Europe very recently where the seller offered the Camaro for one price, and each individual accompanying log book for another, per book. The log books have no value if you are just going to run the car in a Mickey Duck anything goes class, but they create a lot of value if you run in a proper `historic' type class anywhere in the world .....

Its amazing Steve the amount of historic American saloons going to Europe as historic racing is having huge growth currently over their, we are lucky though our various USA contacts to have down here what we do but it won't get any easier in the future!!

Rod(Grimwood) thanks for the kind words, growing pains I tell you!! but atleast people are getting the essence of what we're about. one thing I've noticed is the amount of "no show gunnas" out there but I guess thats always been in NZ motorsport, oh well!! will press on with those that actually want to do it!! Life is GOOD

A few of us went down to Christchurch on Wednesday for a reasonably successful meeting with those on the mainland that are keen to see HMC and HSC in that part of the country, time will tell.

Dale M

[Steve Holmes]

According to my US sources - not tomato sauces - this Mustang has been sold to a skidder in Finland. There was also another Camaro like mine sold to Europe very recently where the seller offered the Camaro for one price, and each individual accompanying log book for another, per book. The log books have no value if you are just going to run the car in a Mickey Duck anything goes class, but they create a lot of value if you run in a proper `historic' type class anywhere in the world .....

Thats a good point Steve, the value of an old race car is often dictated by its racing history. A factory built race car will invariably command greater value than one built by a privateer team, but among the privateer teams, its the races the cars contested that bring about their values. Eg, in US sedan racing during the late 1960s through early '70s, SCCA A/Sedan rules covered everything from regional races and championships through to the high-profile Trans-Am series. If a car raced in the Trans-Am series, that makes it eligible to now race with the Historic Trans-Am group, which ultimately adds a premium to its value, even if it only ever contested 2 Trans-Am races in period, and finished last.

The Trans-Am fields were mostly made up of local privateer teams who just ran with the Trans-Am when it came to town, to try and win a few bucks prize money. So that privateer team might have contested regional A/Sedan events against similar local cars, but if that privateer team then entered their A/Sedan in a Trans-Am race, then that car now will likely have a much greater value than similar local privateer cars that didn't contest any Trans-Am races.

[Kiwiboss]

HMC racers, I've just had conformation of all 3 Australian events in which HMC will race with Australian Trans Am this year, here are the dates and anyone is welcome to attend.

1 - Shannon Days of Thunder, Queensland Raceway, June 20/21st, 2015
2 - The Lakeside Classic, Lakeside Brisbane, July 25/6th, 2015
3 - Muscle Car Masters, Eastern Creek, Sydney, September 5/6th, 2015

HMC entrants we have to date(unconfirmed):

1 - Dale Mathers, 69 Mustang
2 - Murray Brown, 70 Camaro
3 - Kevin Gimblett, 67 Camaro
4 - Rodger Cunninghame, 65 Mustang
5 - Glenn Allingham, 68 Camaro
6 - Dave Sturrock, 68 Camaro

If any other HMC racer with an HMC legal car wishes to attend please contact me direct.

Dale M

[Ellis]

Dale
You should bring them to Baskerville Historics (In Tassie) Oct 2--4 2015....and its on the way home

[Steve Holmes]

I just noticed this thread has now had over 200,000 page views! Cool.

[Kiwiboss]

TV footage from the Ganley Festival, 2015 featuring HMC and ATA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ap8wHthqkYU&feature=em-upload_owner

I'd like to thank, Mike Corry from Health House, Kevin Gimblett, Murray Brown, Gary Riata, Dave Sturrock and Glen Allingham for there help funding this footage.

Dale M

[STG69]

Firstly I'd like to congadulate all involved on a fantastic couple of weekends at the Ganley Festivle Hampton Downs in Jan. My family and I were lucky enough to view the action from an upstairs appartment overlooking the start finish line on the first weekend. Not a race meeting I'll forget any time soon. I look forward to the rounds later this year at QR and Lakeside.
As a result of coming over I started to look around at suitable cars for the class. I made contact with a gentleman here in QLD who has two cars forsale both ourlined below. I have no financial interst in these cars but believe they both offer very good value. If you would like more information send me a PM and I'll pass on the sellers details.
Cheers
Kyle

Some info on both cars:

Calypso Coral 1970 Boss TransAm
This car was purchased in 1970 from the showroom floor and taken to a workshop and converted into a Trans Am car. It is a genuine Boss with Vin number still fitted to the car. It also comes with the original Marty report which lists all the extras the car was purchased with. Independent racer Greg Hessler built the car with Warren Tope playing a big part on the build and was able to supply lots of special parts from the 69 factory team cars. Warrens father was vice president of Fords powertrain group so hence the access to parts. It has various Kar Kraft and Shelby Team parts throughout. The engine was built by Bud Moore but the block is now a Boss 302. The Bud Moore inlet manifold is still on the car. The original seat, same as was in Moffat’s car but it has a modern race seat in for now. The car was restored back in the late 90s but was not raced very much.
Genuine Trans Am race history.
$120,000 AUD

Blue 1969 Mustang.
This car is brand new and race ready. It has been built to race in Group NC and is legal. Has big Lincoln front brakes with race rotors.
Rear brakes stock ford. Front spindles are Big block ford. The brace is the beefier one out of 70 Mustang.. Rear axle is floating. Diff is fitted with a watts lick set up from the states. Drive shaft is custom made. Top loader 4 speed. Custom fuel cell running 2 pumps. Fuel is pumped into pot then to engine. Battery mounted in boot. Engine was built from ground up by Bow Seaton. We started with the latest motor craft 351 Boss block. The very best of everything went in to it. Bench tested at over 530HP. Fully race tuned exhaust with same headers. 780 holly with 4 post adjuster. Interior we kept the ford dash facing and pads but fitted modern gauges. Control box between seats with push start. Modern peddle box and a Hurst shift with quick change linkages.
$110,000 is well below build cost.
Sorry the pics I had were too big for the site even after compressing. PM me and I'll pass on the sellers details.

[Kiwiboss]

Glenn Allingham's new 70 Camaro coming to HMC. Glenn is one of 5 cars going to Australia which get loaded early next month.

[DewiAusTransAm]

Hi Kyle, would the Blue 69 Mustang you are talking about be this one? (see attached)

Also, would I be allowed to share these on the 'For Sale' section of our Australian Trans-Am website?
If so, could you please send me any info & contact details to mailto:?subject=&body=
Cheers