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Another photo from the shoe box. I went to the first Formula One race at Long beach in March 1976. The program included a gathering of some of the great drivers from the past to participate in a Historic F-1 race / demonstration run in some of the race cars that they had actually driven in their day. After the race they gathered on the podium and I managed to get a photo before the TV crew threw me back.
What a great line-up of drivers and I doubt that they would all gather like this again and it was a great privilege to see them in action.
The photo shows from L to R.
Carroll Shelby, Rene Dreyfus, Stirling Moss, Maurice Trintignant, Juan Manuel Fangio, Dan Gurney (who signed it for me ) Jack Brabham, Denis Hulme and Innes Ireland in front.

I also attached a copy of a page from the program which gives more detail. Note the F 1 entries are from the season that the movie "Rush" was based on.

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If you look closely you will see that Phil Hill drove a 1960 V6 Ferrari in this Long Beach race that was the type that he drove at the 1960
Italian Grand Prix at Monza (and won mainly due to the small field with no Cooper, BRM, Lotus etc participation due to safety concerns )
That winning Ferrari was sold to Pat Hoare in NZ who raced it for a few seasons.
I wrote away for this "Shell " card many years ago and I wanted to share the information and especially note that it had a V12 when bravely driven by Pat.
Could someone please explain why a Monza winning V6 engine would be replaced by a heavier, more complicated and unreliable V12 to be driven on NZ circuits at that time ?
What a beautiful race car.


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V12 3-litre engine in Pat Hoare's Ferrari

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My recollection from the time( as an 18/19 year old enthusiast) was that Hoare requested the V12 in place of the V6 formula One engine as the maintenance of it would be easier. These 3-litre engines had been used in various Ferrari sports and GT cars from about 1957 onward and seem to have been fairly reliable, enough to win the World Sports Car Champ in 1958 and 1960. I don't recall Hoare having many mechanical problems.

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V12 3-litre engine in Pat Hoare's Ferrari
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Thanks Stu.
That must have been a very "hot" V12 engine.

I found this article about the car which was originally a Ferrari 246 F1 Dino, written in 2006 from the "Ultimatecarpage.com " site.

" With the cars obsolete and having no economic value at the end of the 1960 season, Ferrari's racing department set about disassembling the surviving cars of the circa nine raced in the previous three years. The useful parts like the engines were retained, but the rest was scrapped. Fortunately at least one car escaped this treatment as it was modified for the Tasman Series and sold to Pat Hoare from New Zeeland. For this application the Dino engine was removed and replaced with a very 'hot' 3-litre V12 engine similar to the ones fitted in the dominant 250 TRs. The chassis was used by Phil Hill for his Italian Grand Prix win, but renumbered from its original '0007' to '0788'; the number on the engine. Hoare raced his Ferrari Special with considerable success until 1963 when rule changes left it obsolete. He modified the chassis for road use and fitted a 250 GTO replica body. Fortunately all the removed tubes and body panels were retained and in the late seventies it was brought back to its former glory by British historic racer Neil Corner. Powered by the very potent V12 engine, the car was successfully campaigned for many seasons by his son Nigel Corner, until a very heavy accident nearly killed him. Thankfully both survived and while Nigel retired from active duty, the Tasman Special is still frequently raced by its current owner.
The current owner of 0007/0788 had his master mechanic fit his car with a correct V6 engine. This combination debuted at Monaco in 2006 and the lighter engine made the car a lot nicer to drive. Currently the car can be equipped with either engine, but the owner liked the V6 so much that left it in for the remainder of the season. " ( 2006 Information )

I hope the car is still being raced today. It has such a wonderful history.

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p.s. I saw it race in the rain at Ardmore during the 1962 NZGP.
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I loved watching this car although I don't think it was ever really pushed in New Zealand until Jackie Stewart drove it at a Wigram Friday practice many years ago.

Here is a great thread on this site. http://www.theroaringseason.com/showthread.php?40-The-Other-Ferrari-250-GTO
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Pat Hoare was the first local NZ driver home that day at Ardmore in 6 th place five laps behind Stirling Moss who drove one of the best races of his career which ended a few months later when he crashed at Goodwood in April 1962.

I have put together some of my scrap book from that WET day at Ardmore and wanted to share it as best possible.

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The 2 shilling and six pence programme has some interesting pages.

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I showed my old programme to Stirling Moss a few years ago at the Monterey Historic Meet and he was impressed that I had kept a lap chart of the race in the rain and noted the water stains on the pages. He signed it twice and looked through it and kept others waiting as he was not expecting to see this old memory while in California !
It truly was one of the best drives of his career as he had lapped everyone except John Surtees on the 2 mile track at Ardmore and did it all in 50 laps against a world class field.
I am glad I was there as a "young fella" and can share the memory.

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( I wish I could make this image clearer. If you look closely you can see Stirling signed it twice )

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Before the rains came at Ardmore there had been exciting racing.
Note the entry list from this small size engine saloon car race.
Little cars with big time drivers !
( Note the amount of the prize money ! )

Kerry Grant takes the lead in his Austin Farina.

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(Photos from the 8 0 Clock Sports paper )

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I notice that the Mini Coopers for Bruce McLaren, Ron Flockhart and Roy Salvadori had 998 cc engines and customer Mini Coopers at that time had 997 cc engines until early 1964 when the 998 engines were put in. Looks like they had fun.
Can you imagine drivers today competing like this a few hours before the main event !

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I notice that the Mini Coopers for Bruce McLaren, Ron Flockhart and Roy Salvadori had 998 cc engines and customer Mini Coopers at that time had 997 cc engines until early 1964 when the 998 engines were put in. Looks like they had fun.
Can you imagine drivers today competing like this a few hours before the main event !

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Image from NZ Herald 24-12-61
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The NZ Grand Prix was due to start at 2 pm and it began pouring with rain and the race went ahead anyway.
There were no rain tyres back then and it is amazing how brave these drivers were.

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These images are from the 8 o Clock sport paper which we couldn't wait to read when it came out on a Saturday evening.

( Signed by Stirling Moss )


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Ardmore, NZ. January 6. 1962.

This gives a view of how it was that day ! (Thanks to You Tube )

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I notice that the Mini Coopers for Bruce McLaren, Ron Flockhart and Roy Salvadori had 998 cc engines and customer Mini Coopers at that time had 997 cc engines until early 1964 when the 998 engines were put in. Looks like they had fun.
Can you imagine drivers today competing like this a few hours before the main event !

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This weekend at the Laguna Seca Raceway in California the Monterey Motorsports Reunion will take place.
It will feature the 100 year anniversary of Maserati cars.
The guest of honor will be Stirling Moss who is still getting around and very alert at 84 years of age which is pretty good after all his
injuries from racing and falling down elevator shafts etc.
I thought this summary in the NZ Herald when he retired in 2011, covered his brilliant drive at Ardmore and his career very well.

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Ardmore. January 1962.
Stirling Moss in his Rob Walker Racing Lotus 21 and John Surtees in his Yeoman Credit Racing Team
Cooper T 53 on a dry day !

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(Thanks to Bruce McLaren Trust for this image )

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"As Surtees had intimated, Moss operated at a very different level to other racing drivers"...
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Look at the poor old positive camber l/f [meaning off side uk talk] with half lock understeer...... looks quick BUT could have been quicker with some up to date knowledge ..no disrespect to his driving abilities could be on cross plys as well
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Stirling also dressed at a different level to other drivers as seen in this photo taken at Ardmore in 1956.
He saw this and signed it also.
He thought he looked pretty good in black with his camera to match !
The ladies also enjoyed having Stirling show up !
He is talking to fellow British driver, Peter Whitehead. Peter was sadly killed in 1959 on the Tour de France, when, with his brother Graham driving, their Jaguar crashed off a bridge into a ravine at Lasalle. Graham survived.

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Thanks to Bruce McLaren Trust for this photo.

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( I will not be at Laguna Seca this weekend and I am glad I had this chance 3 years ago to spend a
few minutes talking to Stirling and he seemed to enjoy seeing some of my " Stuff " that I had hung onto
over the years and was only too willing to sign it. I know this weekend he will be surrounded and there is no way I would have had the same opportunity. Thanks TRS for letting me share this. )
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